2016 Mazda 1.5S AT vs Suzuki Ciaz GL AT vs Honda City 1.5 E AT

[sientobente]

We are in the market for a subcompact sedan for less than 800k. My wife and I already created a shortlist. We are not interested in the Vios 1.3AT since my parents already have one. Considerations are:
Fuel Economy
Spacious
Fun to drive
Reliable

What's your vote and why?

[WallyWest]

Someone will inevitably suggest a Vios. Lol.

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[JohnM]

The Mazda 2 checks all your boxes except for the back seat space

[claytonyu]

We are in the market for a subcompact sedan for less than 800k. My wife and I already created a shortlist. We are not interested in the Vios 1.3AT since my parents already have one. Considerations are:
Fuel Economy
Spacious
Fun to drive
Reliable

What's your vote and why?

I would choose a mazda over any suzuki

[niky]

The Mazda2 is the most fun, but the Honda City ticks all the boxes. The only question mark is the CVT transmission. It's supposedly more durable than the old dry clutch CVT, but only time will tell.

[Egan101]

The City matches most of your considerations but it's not that fun to drive.

[niky]

The City matches most of your considerations but it's not that fun to drive.

The electric steering has no feel, but it's relatively sharp and handling is pretty nimble. Not as exciting a steer as the Fiesta or Mazda2, but pretty good, depending on the wheel-tire combo.

With the E variant, the bigger tires and smaller wheels will hurt handling, but you can always change the tires out for something nicer.

[Egan101]

The electric steering has no feel, but it's relatively sharp and handling is pretty nimble. Not as exciting a steer as the Fiesta or Mazda2, but pretty good, depending on the wheel-tire combo.

With the E variant, the bigger tires and smaller wheels will hurt handling, but you can always change the tires out for something nicer.

Very true, Niky! The EPS on the Honda smaller cars lacks feel. We have the previous generation City and Jazz (VTEC, GE chassis), both cars never seem to excite me with its steering response. They are good city cars though, fuel efficient and easy to drive, not to mention spacious for a small car.

Both cars though are not as agile and quick as my Fiesta Ecoboost.

[StockEngine]

City VX has a sizeable discount.

Engine and cvt has no issues the past 4yrs..

Good resale value imo.

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[baludoy]

^ oo nga. You'll get BetteR audio output pa 😊

But maybe it'll cost more than 15k if you have to purchase the 2 din hu console ctr panels pa

to be or not to be, that always confuses me!

[glntVR]

^ oo nga. You'll get BetteR audio output pa 😊

But maybe it'll cost more than 15k if you have to purchase the 2 din hu console ctr panels pa

to be or not to be, that always confuses me!

No need to get a new panel, just replace the 2DIN with a 2DIN Touch Screen.
I agree, City E and VX offers the best overall value. Vios E and G are expensive na din.
You are paying extra for the brand.

[Irie1108]

Thank you everyone for your replies.

Now I'm down with 2 choices. City VX and Ciaz GLX.

I like the exterior design of the ciaz better than the city. Engine = city. Interior quality = ciaz. Driver's panel = city.

I think it comes down to maintenance, parts and its availability. Does Honda have the advantage? If so, by how much?

Thank you again.

[dr. d]

Thank you everyone for your replies.

Now I'm down with 2 choices. City VX and Ciaz GLX.

I like the exterior design of the ciaz better than the city. Engine = city. Interior quality = ciaz. Driver's panel = city.

I think it comes down to maintenance, parts and its availability. Does Honda have the advantage? If so, by how much?

Thank you again.

there was a time, when honda maintenance had a reputation for being more expensive than the competition.
is it still the same today?

[Egan101]

there was a time, when honda maintenance had a reputation for being more expensive than the competition.
is it still the same today?

Our experience with Honda dealerships is not what you call cheap. If you use their fully synthetic oils, then get ready to spend a bit. They charged us around 650 per liter for their fully synthetic oil. Their Honda-specified fluids (ATF, PS, CVTF, etc) are also priced higher than usual but Honda uses proprietary fluids so using something else may cause some problems later on. Now, if you insist on using their regular oil, I think it is just 200 per liter. However, most SAs tend to do a lot of upselling. With our City 1.5L 2009 before, I remember we spent 25k when it went thru its 40k PMS as the ATF had to be changed. The good thing with most Hondas nowadays is that they have EPS so no need to spend on PSF.

With the new Honda City/Jazz, you have to spend for the usual oil change every 10k KM (around 5-6k) and save up when the time comes the CVTF needs to be changed.

[StockEngine]

ciaz maintenance will be cheaper based on suzuki fb groups. also the transmission fluid changes are cheaper compared to that of cvt fluid changes for the city.

if the ertiga is a measure of reliability then ciaz is also somewhat reliable.

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[cast_no_shadow]

Tingin ko kase it gets expensive after pag lahat ng optionals na ikinarga eh pinagawa mo din.


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