Subaru XV or Rush/Expander

[Lacazette1]

I have a similar dilemma. XV base, XV premium, CRV diesel V, or CRV gas.

Leaning towards XV premium but i dont know if that is the value for money option.

[Egan101]

I have a similar dilemma. XV base, XV premium, CRV diesel V, or CRV gas.

Leaning towards XV premium but i dont know if that is the value for money option.

Isuzu may just found the sweet spot by offering a MUX model (LS 4x2 AT) priced at 1.3M. It cuts across various segments (MPV, AUV, small crossovers, CUV, and PPVs) with its competitive pricing.

[Xotigu]

It's hard to compare when the price of XV is far more expensive than the two.
I think the closest competitor of Rush/Xpander would be the Vitara or even the HRV.
But if I have the money, I'd go for XV mainly because of the EyeSight.

[Magixuser]

Why not throw some Korean cars into the mix, consider

Kona 2.0 GLS 6AT 2WD * P1,118,000.00
or
Tucson 2.0 GL 6MT 2WD 1,163,000.00

[Walter]

Best to avoid Korean cars ... They may be doing well elsewhere but rather poor support here ...

[travajante]

Best to avoid Korean cars ... They may be doing well elsewhere but rather poor support here ...

^Agree.

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[Woof]

Best to avoid Korean cars ... They may be doing well elsewhere but rather poor support here ...

In general, yes. But the savings from buying second hand (with Korean cars' lower resale values) and knowing how to source parts yourself can make some Korean (Kia and Hyundai) vehicles a viable alternative to many looking to save. There are now many Kia and Hyundai parts specialists. Sa Banawe pa lang I can already think of 5 off the top of my mind. I'm sure there are more elsewhere. It's only when you solely depend on the casa for parts and repairs that you will really feel the pain. This at least is my experience with the Starex, Elantra and Accent - granted that these are popular volume sellers. The situation may be different regarding other low-volume models because every now and then I still hear that parts are difficult to find.

[yapoy86]

In general, yes. But the savings from buying second hand (with Korean cars' lower resale values) and knowing how to source parts yourself can make some Korean (Kia and Hyundai) vehicles a viable alternative to many looking to save. There are now many Kia and Hyundai parts specialists. Sa Banawe pa lang I can already think of 5 off the top of my mind. I'm sure there are more elsewhere. It's only when you solely depend on the casa for parts and repairs that you will really feel the pain. This at least is my experience with the Starex, Elantra and Accent - granted that these are popular volume sellers. The situation may be different regarding other low-volume models because every now and then I still hear that parts are difficult to find.

Yan ang mga dapat na take advantage when buying 2nd hand cars. Low resale value! Yung reliability ng korean cars is almost at par na with japanese brands.. add mo pa yung support for parts outside casa (seiring, fronte).. compared sa ibang brands na hindi jap..

Take note na not all japs have good support like suzuki.. medyo pricey din parts nila at hirap mag hanap outside casa (olympia)

Pero between sa mga choices.. sa subaru XV na.. basta brand new.

[GTi]

In general, yes. But the savings from buying second hand (with Korean cars' lower resale values) and knowing how to source parts yourself can make some Korean (Kia and Hyundai) vehicles a viable alternative to many looking to save. There are now many Kia and Hyundai parts specialists. Sa Banawe pa lang I can already think of 5 off the top of my mind. I'm sure there are more elsewhere. It's only when you solely depend on the casa for parts and repairs that you will really feel the pain. This at least is my experience with the Starex, Elantra and Accent - granted that these are popular volume sellers. The situation may be different regarding other low-volume models because every now and then I still hear that parts are difficult to find.

Agree. Korean cars with a healthy local population are actually quite viable options. Cars like the Starex and Accent are so high volume that many shops stock parts for them. I remember being quite frustrated that Seiring does not have the trim parts I need for my Santa Fe but has them for the Starex. I admit that long term build quality is still inferior to the Japanese. But the lesser purchase price and oftentimes better engine performance and ride quality makes up for it.

But then, even with popular Japanese brands, not all models have a good parts supply. Model-specific trim parts for our 2005 Accord 2.4 are often very hard to find.

This is why I don't find a low volume car desirable anymore, especially if said car is going to be a daily driver.

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[Magixuser]

Best to avoid Korean cars ... They may be doing well elsewhere but rather poor support here ...

Tucson was out since 2016, so there should be plenty of stock parts around, they only had a minor facelift on the 2019 model. Korean cars have been proven to be as good if not better than there Japanese counterpart.

[dr. d]

In general, yes. But the savings from buying second hand (with Korean cars' lower resale values) and knowing how to source parts yourself can make some Korean (Kia and Hyundai) vehicles a viable alternative to many looking to save. There are now many Kia and Hyundai parts specialists. Sa Banawe pa lang I can already think of 5 off the top of my mind. I'm sure there are more elsewhere. It's only when you solely depend on the casa for parts and repairs that you will really feel the pain. This at least is my experience with the Starex, Elantra and Accent - granted that these are popular volume sellers. The situation may be different regarding other low-volume models because every now and then I still hear that parts are difficult to find.

another thing.
not every car owner lives and drives in manila.

[Quithe]

subaru, why u chose Rush. No more

[Lin Dan]

Best to avoid Korean cars ... They may be doing well elsewhere but rather poor support here ...

I concur on this.

[Ry_Tower]

Tucson was out since 2016, so there should be plenty of stock parts around, they only had a minor facelift on the 2019 model. Korean cars have been proven to be as good if not better than there Japanese counterpart.

No they are not yet on par with Japanese cars in terms of reliability and durability.

Dami ko kilala na hindi nagandahan sa maintenance ng korean cars nila.

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[baker2005]

planning to buy Rush, but I am having second thoughts kasi 1.5 as SUV? anybody here already bought one? how's the performance so far? Thanks for your reply in advance.

[Egan101]

planning to buy Rush, but I am having second thoughts kasi 1.5 as SUV? anybody here already bought one? how's the performance so far? Thanks for your reply in advance.

Give it a test drive and compare against the likes of the BRV or Vitara. If performance is a key concern, forget the Rush and get the XV or even something more performance-oriented.

[baker2005]

Give it a test drive and compare against the likes of the BRV or Vitara. If performance is a key concern, forget the Rush and get the XV or even something more performance-oriented.

yup I'll do that, but I'm no good in comparing MV by test drive alone. I've driven, 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 sedans, but I can't tell the difference right away.

[Egan101]

yup I'll do that, but I'm no good in comparing MV by test drive alone. I've driven, 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 sedans, but I can't tell the difference right away.

How spirited are you in driving a car? Most small cars with small displacement naturally-aspirated engines will be similar in performance. You can pinch a bit more from them if you drive them at their torque and power limits (4000 to 6000 rpm). However, some cars offer better natural grip thus giving them the ability to handle better when driven hard.

For the Rush, with its big body and so-so 1.5L NA engine, it will perform poorer against the like of Vios or City. If you are to test drive a car, be sure to test how it responds to throttle input, how the car responds to steering input, and give it a try to push the tachometer to mid to high rpms.

[baker2005]

How spirited are you in driving a car? Most small cars with small displacement naturally-aspirated engines will be similar in performance. You can pinch a bit more from them if you drive them at their torque and power limits (4000 to 6000 rpm). However, some cars offer better natural grip thus giving them the ability to handle better when driven hard.

For the Rush, with its big body and so-so 1.5L NA engine, it will perform poorer against the like of Vios or City. If you are to test drive a car, be sure to test how it responds to throttle input, how the car responds to steering input, and give it a try to push the tachometer to mid to high rpms.

Depends on my mood, sometimes, i am on the hataw mode minsan nman, i only want to enjoy the view, open windows.

But i havent tried maximizing its power. I might hit the airbag, pag biglang preno.

[montro]

Depends on my mood, sometimes, i am on the hataw mode minsan nman, i only want to enjoy the view, open windows.

But i havent tried maximizing its power. I might hit the airbag, pag biglang preno.

Wear seat belt as you drive. I'm pretty sure you'll not hit the air bag when you drastically floor the break.

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