Help: car mods/upgrades

[michaelbelen]

unichip and emanage are both tuning chip right? Hindi ba ganun kadelikado magpa PnP?

[uls]

unichip and emanage are both tuning chip right? Hindi ba ganun kadelikado magpa PnP?

sabi mo takot ka sa top overhaul pero pinag iisipan mo mag port&polish?

pareho tanggal cylinderhead yan eh

[uls]

pareho piggyback ang e-manage and unichip

but you can control a lot more with e-manage

[niky]

Hey, you can do a hell of a lot more with Unichip. (multi-maps, extra-injector maps, electronic throttle-mapping, MAF-MAP conversion, launch control, auto-map switching when on nitrous, O2 sensor compensation, alcohol-injection control, etcetera...) The problem is you're usually locked to the tuner, because tuning kits are not commercially available, and every additional feature is additional labor charges.


Forget the CF bumpers and trunk. The lightening is not anywhere near enough to make it worth it.

Forget PnP. I've done it. The bump in power is completely negligible. COMPLETELY. I've done it. I had the best PnP money can buy. But with stock cams or even FSZE cams, you're not going to see any benefit. You really need US-made racing cams.

Versus a lightweight D15B, with just exhaust and an E-manage, you'll be on somewhat even footing, but he'll definitely beat you off the line. The Lynx is heavy, no doubt about it. But that weight is not something you can fix with carbon fiber body panels. All that extra weight is in the sunroof (around 30 kgs) and the engine (maybe 50 kgs extra due to the iron block).

Just do the simple stuff. Forget about gauging. The RS is not great for drag racing. Heavy engine, clutch not that durable. First gear too short. Second gear too long. And even if you fix the clutch, your engine mounts are too soft and third gear is too fragile (just as in the Sentra... which is at least lighter).

Even with my fully modified RS, which has racing cams and the highest naturally aspirated horsepower in the Philippines (around 152 whp... approximately 175-180 bhp), because of the weight of the car, it still does high-15 to 16 flat quarter-miles. Modified 1.6 Sentras and D15Bs can kick my ass on the drag strip... even though I can hit near-230 km/h and leave them for dead on the highway.

Just do what you want to do to feel good about the car. But don't feel bad if you lose a drag race or two, as the Lynx ain't a good drag racer.

[uls]

Hey, you can do a hell of a lot more with Unichip. (multi-maps, extra-injector maps, electronic throttle-mapping, MAF-MAP conversion, launch control, auto-map switching when on nitrous, O2 sensor compensation, alcohol-injection control, etcetera...) The problem is you're usually locked to the tuner, because tuning kits are not commercially available, and every additional feature is additional labor charges.

i mean with the e-manage you can adjust things by yourself using a laptop (or destroy your engine by yourself)

while the unichip you have to send it to a tuner to adjust things

[michaelbelen]

Hey, you can do a hell of a lot more with Unichip. (multi-maps, extra-injector maps, electronic throttle-mapping, MAF-MAP conversion, launch control, auto-map switching when on nitrous, O2 sensor compensation, alcohol-injection control, etcetera...) The problem is you're usually locked to the tuner, because tuning kits are not commercially available, and every additional feature is additional labor charges.


Forget the CF bumpers and trunk. The lightening is not anywhere near enough to make it worth it.

Forget PnP. I've done it. The bump in power is completely negligible. COMPLETELY. I've done it. I had the best PnP money can buy. But with stock cams or even FSZE cams, you're not going to see any benefit. You really need US-made racing cams.

Versus a lightweight D15B, with just exhaust and an E-manage, you'll be on somewhat even footing, but he'll definitely beat you off the line. The Lynx is heavy, no doubt about it. But that weight is not something you can fix with carbon fiber body panels. All that extra weight is in the sunroof (around 30 kgs) and the engine (maybe 50 kgs extra due to the iron block).

Just do the simple stuff. Forget about gauging. The RS is not great for drag racing. Heavy engine, clutch not that durable. First gear too short. Second gear too long. And even if you fix the clutch, your engine mounts are too soft and third gear is too fragile (just as in the Sentra... which is at least lighter).

Even with my fully modified RS, which has racing cams and the highest naturally aspirated horsepower in the Philippines (around 152 whp... approximately 175-180 bhp), because of the weight of the car, it still does high-15 to 16 flat quarter-miles. Modified 1.6 Sentras and D15Bs can kick my ass on the drag strip... even though I can hit near-230 km/h and leave them for dead on the highway.

Just do what you want to do to feel good about the car. But don't feel bad if you lose a drag race or two, as the Lynx ain't a good drag racer.

And that's the story of my life. ((

btw what do you mean idol by third gear is too fragile?

and unichip and emanage serve the same purpose right?

[uls]

Apexi Power FC > GReddy e-manage or Unichip

[asb75]

Guys Ill be buying this stuff, let me know your inputs and if it is worth it...

carbon fiber Hood, Bumper and grills = trade with my stock + 25k
E manage Ultimate (used) = 15k
Rotors brand new = 10k
Fsze cams intake and exhaust (used) = 10k
H&R lowering springs (usde) = trade with my stock +5k


65k total, Worth it???

I think this not a very serious matter, akala ko pa naman life & death situation na. The question is, do you really need this stuff? What is the reason why are you repalcing them? Just ask yourself first is it worth it?

[michaelbelen]

sir abs, reasons at previous replies po..

Sir better po ba standalone? That's 60k po kasi. Pero will it be satisfying? Will my 60k do much and improve my car better compared to piggybacks?

[uls]

o diba? standalone

dude, unless your engine is heavily modded you dont need standalone engine management

heavily modded as in turbo, bigger injectors, etc

what your mind wants doesnt match your budget

your 65K will only buy you a few horsepower no matter what you spend it on

if you want big noticeable power increase you're talking 200K up

[uls]

na-edit ang title ng thread

hindi na life or death situation hehe

[niky]

Apexi Power FC > GReddy e-manage or Unichip

E-Manage is great if you know what you're doing, otherwise, if you're a newbie (like the TS is), better to leave it to an expert.

Problem is, the Power FC has limited compatibility. The Unichip is at least nearly universally applicable.

And for all that money, as you say, you're only going to get the same hp. The only big advantage of the Power FC is that you can avoid fightback (which we already do with Unichip and E-Manage by removing the O2 sensor or emulating it with the Unichip) and you can raise the redline.

That's the one thing the Unichip can't do on the Lynx. We tried the Unichip redline defeater module and it doesn't work for the RS. But even raising the redline will get you very little, as the stock cams and FSZE cams don't breathe past 6500 rpm. You need 40k pesos worth of racing cams to make it worth your while. And while you're at that, you'll need cam gears, an oil pump upgrade, new valve springs and a balanced and blueprinted bottom end, because the FS-DE hates high revs. Throw in individual throttle bodies and a MAP-MAF conversion, which can be done with the Unichip, and which gains you about 10 hp alone. But you have to have contacts in Taiwan to get the set-up from AAI.

Tama nga estimate mo. Mga 200k. High comp pistons, balancing, racing cams, stronger connecting rods, standalone ECU, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Whereas with just 100k, puwede nang turbo. But you'll still need a better oil pump, otherwise the engine goes "pop" at over 200 whp.

[Ry_Tower]

Pa-guwapuhin mo na lang car mo. Better brakes, sound set-up and lights. Wag na habol sa speed kasi kapag nakasabayan mo mga korean SUV's iiyak ka din. hehe

[niky]

Pa-guwapuhin mo na lang car mo. Better brakes, sound set-up and lights. Wag na habol sa speed kasi kapag nakasabayan mo mga korean SUV's iiyak ka din. hehe

Hahaha... want to take bets on that? My car will still outdrag a Tucson or Santa Fe...

[uls]

Tama nga estimate mo. Mga 200k. High comp pistons, balancing, racing cams, stronger connecting rods, standalone ECU, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

yup that's what TS should do if he wants high performance all-motor

high lift cams, enlarged and smoothened cylinder head ports, high compression pistons etc

[ghosthunter]

Hahaha... want to take bets on that? My car will still outdrag a Tucson or Santa Fe...

Toyota Alphard van will outdrag anything you own. ;)

[IMm29]

Toyota Alphard van will outdrag anything you own. ;)

Bread Van Racing Club eh?

[niky]

Hahaha... it'll be close. I can beat the Alphard to 100 km/h, but just barely. Above that, I'm sure the Alphard would kick my ass.

I wonder if I can turn it into a drag car by dumping out the interior? Can you imagine the looks on the drag-boys' faces? A huge van doing consistent flat 15's all day, and taking home the bacon in the bracket races.

[JohnM]

Nakakagulat nga yang Alphard. I was beside one at the lights. Pag-green nawala na lang bigla.

[GTi]

OK to ah, drag-van! Kumusta naman ang handling ng Alphard?