First time buyer, owner, driver. What to buy?

[jut703]

We're also considering the CR-V as it doesn't look that bare for it's price. Is the V variant of the CR-V good? They say it's the base model compared to the S gas variant but the advantage is it's diesel and is a 7-seater

No, spend the extra 200k and get the 1.6S diesel. The V is so bare for what you pay for.

The S gives you:
- LED headlamps and foglamps
- 8 speakers vs 4
- Touch screen LCD with Android Auto and Apple Carplay
- Push button ignition and smart key entry
- 18” rims vs 17”

Most of these features are not easy to add as aftermarket upgrades so better to have them from the get-go.


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[tool_46n2]

Hey guys . So a quick update, my mom has decided to increase the budget since she said this will be her last big purchase before she retires. Right now the budget is 1.6M -1.7M. I've asked some sales agent and as of now our top choice is the 2020 Mitsubishi Montero Sports GT 4x2 which is heavily discounted right now (320k) and puts it within the budget. Another pick is the Ford Everest Trend which is also within the budget when the discount is factored in.

A lot of people here owns a Montero and they say parts are not a problem here in the island and there are a lot of mechanics knowledgeable on it. As for PMS, we're fine with travelling out of the island for it. What do you guys think? Other choices would be the Fortuner G AT and the base model Honda CR-V (the Gas and the V Diesel variant).

We've considered a Toyota but we feel that the base Fortuner is too bare

You could do worse than than go with the popular 7-seater diesel SUVS, if you're considering abundance price of spare parts since you are also planning to keep this for a long time.

At 1.7M, the discounted Montero GT 2wd would be a top choice, followed by the Ford Everest Trend 2.2. You are right about base Fortuner being to bare vs the base Everest Trend (The Sport being more expensive and has the newer 2.0 engine but seems to have less amenities than Trend) for same SRP.

My problem with current and newly facelifted CR-V if your planning to go the diesel is that ours still have the low powered variant of 1.6L diesel at 120hp, other ASEAN countries have the 160hp. I had hoped that it would upgraded when the facelift was launched last year. I would rather go for the 2.0L gas version S variant, since I also dont use much the third row seats.

[bloowolf]

We're also considering the CR-V as it doesn't look that bare for it's price. Is the V variant of the CR-V good? They say it's the base model compared to the S gas variant but the advantage is it's diesel and is a 7-seater

Have you ever considered the CX5? All car comparisons I’ve read & watched all pointed to the CX5 as the best crossover in its class. But I think it’s a bit over your budget.

[bxr monkey]

Puwede din tigngan Innova V or Hilux Conquest.
Okay sana Corolla Cross Hybrid, kaso hindi sure ang battery after 10 years.

[Egan101]

You could do worse than than go with the popular 7-seater diesel SUVS, if you're considering abundance price of spare parts since you are also planning to keep this for a long time.

At 1.7M, the discounted Montero GT 2wd would be a top choice, followed by the Ford Everest Trend 2.2. You are right about base Fortuner being to bare vs the base Everest Trend (The Sport being more expensive and has the newer 2.0 engine but seems to have less amenities than Trend) for same SRP.

My problem with current and newly facelifted CR-V if your planning to go the diesel is that ours still have the low powered variant of 1.6L diesel at 120hp, other ASEAN countries have the 160hp. I had hoped that it would upgraded when the facelift was launched last year. I would rather go for the 2.0L gas version S variant, since I also dont use much the third row seats.

If you really don’t need to have 3rd row seats, a CUV would be something better to drive and more comfortable. You have a lot more options.

For those needing an affordable 7-seater crossover, the Geely Okavango seems like a steal for around 1.2M to 1.3M.

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[Egan101]

Have you ever considered the CX5? All car comparisons I’ve read & watched all pointed to the CX5 as the best crossover in its class. But I think it’s a bit over your budget.

The CX5 gets great marks overall and a favorite among car enthusiasts. It is not the CUV that you may need if you want something with a big trunk.


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[Wh1stl3r]

Hey guys . So a quick update, my mom has decided to increase the budget since she said this will be her last big purchase before she retires. Right now the budget is 1.6M -1.7M. I've asked some sales agent and as of now our top choice is the 2020 Mitsubishi Montero Sports GT 4x2 which is heavily discounted right now (320k) and puts it within the budget. Another pick is the Ford Everest Trend which is also within the budget when the discount is factored in.

A lot of people here owns a Montero and they say parts are not a problem here in the island and there are a lot of mechanics knowledgeable on it. As for PMS, we're fine with travelling out of the island for it. What do you guys think? Other choices would be the Fortuner G AT and the base model Honda CR-V (the Gas and the V Diesel variant).

We've considered a Toyota but we feel that the base Fortuner is too bare

The CR-V handles and rides better than any PPV. Boot capacity of the diesel is limited though. Might want to check if your typical payload fits. Probably the most frugal engine but power is just adequate.

The Montero Sport is smaller than the rest of the field of PPVs. The cabin is narrow and snug. It does offer one of the best rides of all the PPVs, if a bit wallowy. And the most powerful engine among your choices.

Fortuner has a nice interior and performance similar to the CR-V. Ride quality is at the bottom of the barrel though. And the side folding 3rd row seats limit the boot capacity somewhat. It does have solid aftermarket parts availability and resale because of the badge.

Good luck choosing!

[EQAddict]

Since it is gonna be your mom's vehicle for the next 10 years or so... get the Montero or fortuner for durability. And they also dont visually age as fast as the crossovers which have high turnover.

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[bxr monkey]

...or Innova. Senior friendly version ng Fortuner. This February daw launch ng new face.



Plus much cheaper cost for 1 set of 5 tires every five years.

[LancerA174A]

Did you check out the Hyundai Kona? My sister who's also a first time driver/owner liked the size and extra ground clearance. May 205K discount din so it's under 1M na, it's also fairly equipped naman with ESC and 6 airbags. She recently passed the PLE kaso di pa masyado sanay mag drive, pang duty daw niya hehe kaya saka na lang yung bigger cars. ��

[travajante]

...or Innova. Senior friendly version ng Fortuner. This February daw launch ng new face.



Plus much cheaper cost for 1 set of 5 tires every five years.

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The CR-V 1.6 S Diesel is out of the budget so we can only choose between the S gas or the V diesel if we go the CR-V route. We did also consider the CX-5 but we can only afford the FWD Pro and that has the i-Stop feature that has expensive batteries right? And the space is a bit off-putting but we can live with that's since it's just the two of us in our household. I'm just not sure if the base CX-5 is good for it's price.

We're also looking into the Innova as it's practical and but the design is a bit too plain. As for the Hilux, we have no plans to get a pick-up as the bed won't be use much if at all. The Geely Okavango is unproven yet so we're still hesitant on getting our first car from a Chinese brand.

Right now it looks like the Montero is a really good choice. It being a smaller PPV is a plus since it won't be as hard to maneuver as other PPVs

Did you check out the Hyundai Kona? My sister who's also a first time driver/owner liked the size and extra ground clearance. May 205K discount din so it's under 1M na, it's also fairly equipped naman with ESC and 6 airbags. She recently passed the PLE kaso di pa masyado sanay mag drive, pang duty daw niya hehe kaya saka na lang yung bigger cars. ��

The Kona is too small for us and we also plan on buying a long-term vehicle so a bigger one would be better.

[bxr monkey]

^ Ayos iyan na choice. Para sure mag test drive/ride.

1. Montero
2. Fortuner
3. Innova

Okay mga iyan sa isolated island province.

Consider din ang tire replacement cost. Mandated na ng LTO mag palit tires every 5 years.

[tool_46n2]

The CR-V 1.6 S Diesel is out of the budget so we can only choose between the S gas or the V diesel if we go the CR-V route. We did also consider the CX-5 but we can only afford the FWD Pro and that has the i-Stop feature that has expensive batteries right? And the space is a bit off-putting but we can live with that's since it's just the two of us in our household. I'm just not sure if the base CX-5 is good for it's price.

We're also looking into the Innova as it's practical and but the design is a bit too plain. As for the Hilux, we have no plans to get a pick-up as the bed won't be use much if at all. The Geely Okavango is unproven yet so we're still hesitant on getting our first car from a Chinese brand.

Right now it looks like the Montero is a really good choice. It being a smaller PPV is a plus since it won't be as hard to maneuver as other PPVs





The Kona is too small for us and we also plan on buying a long-term vehicle so a bigger one would be better.

Dont be worried about the CX-5 and Mazda's "special battery". Iit doesnt have to Yuasa brand, just look for EFB /Enhanced Flooded Battery (AC Delco, Panasonic etc) with the more or less equivalent specs with stock (Cold Cranking Amps and Dimensions).

I would still consider the Everest Trend 2.2L though its a bit larger on the outside but it translates to a bigger space inside with roomier and adjustable 2nd Row seats. The CR-V actually has a better 2nd row than all of the 7seater PPVs.

Bump up your budget to 1.9M you can get the Fortuner 2.8L Q. 1st tier PPV diesel engine (200hp, maybe as fast as the Ford bi-turbo), Adaptive cruise, Lane Keep Assist, Toyota brand, resale and (perceived) reliability.

[bloowolf]

The CR-V 1.6 S Diesel is out of the budget so we can only choose between the S gas or the V diesel if we go the CR-V route. We did also consider the CX-5 but we can only afford the FWD Pro and that has the i-Stop feature that has expensive batteries right? And the space is a bit off-putting but we can live with that's since it's just the two of us in our household. I'm just not sure if the base CX-5 is good for it's price.

We're also looking into the Innova as it's practical and but the design is a bit too plain. As for the Hilux, we have no plans to get a pick-up as the bed won't be use much if at all. The Geely Okavango is unproven yet so we're still hesitant on getting our first car from a Chinese brand.

Right now it looks like the Montero is a really good choice. It being a smaller PPV is a plus since it won't be as hard to maneuver as other PPVs





The Kona is too small for us and we also plan on buying a long-term vehicle so a bigger one would be better.

If you really like the Montero & it checks all the boxes of your requirements then, I’d say go for it. I always have this thing about new cars. I want to wake up in the morning & it’ll be the first thing I look at. That means I’m happy with my purchase.

[2 B]

Fortuner Q or Montero GT 4x2? We're leaning on the Fortuner since it looks like it has better features and there's a dealership in Mindoro so we don't have to travel by sea to service it. We'll have to stretch out the budget a bit but we're fine with that if it means we get a quality vehicle that we won't regret purchasing.

The only thing we see that's a knock on the Fortuner Q compared to the Montero GT 4x2 is the ride quality. Is the difference between the two's ride quality that significant?

[Lakwatsero]

Fortuner Q or Montero GT 4x2? We're leaning on the Fortuner since it looks like it has better features and there's a dealership in Mindoro so we don't have to travel by sea to service it. We'll have to stretch out the budget a bit but we're fine with that if it means we get a quality vehicle that we won't regret purchasing.

The only thing we see that's a knock on the Fortuner Q compared to the Montero GT 4x2 is the ride quality. Is the difference between the two's ride quality that significant?

Montero is wallowy, not my type since high speed stability is not so encouraging. Fortuner is stiffer but more stable at speed.

If you're set on the Fortuner, you can improve the ride with softer shocks. Sobrang daming options pagdating sa suspension upgrades.

[2 B]

Montero is wallowy, not my type since high speed stability is not so encouraging. Fortuner is stiffer but more stable at speed.

If you're set on the Fortuner, you can improve the ride with softer shocks. Sobrang daming options pagdating sa suspension upgrades.

We're not set on the Fortuner per se. We're still considering all options. I just think that so far, the Fortuner is the best one to get among the SUVs in that price range. Of course if there are better options, we'd consider those too

[GTcervan]

Fortuner Q or Montero GT 4x2? We're leaning on the Fortuner since it looks like it has better features and there's a dealership in Mindoro so we don't have to travel by sea to service it. We'll have to stretch out the budget a bit but we're fine with that if it means we get a quality vehicle that we won't regret purchasing.

The only thing we see that's a knock on the Fortuner Q compared to the Montero GT 4x2 is the ride quality. Is the difference between the two's ride quality that significant?

Go for the q 4x2 nalang sir. Mejo stiff lang ang ride pero the 2.8l is already at 200hp and 500nm torque, so it's more powerful than the 2.4l of the ms. Third row seats tho is not flat folding pa. If gusto niyo ng alternative, try checking out the nissan terra. Mejo plain nga lang interior but it has good build quality.

[2 B]

Go for the q 4x2 nalang sir. Mejo stiff lang ang ride pero the 2.8l is already at 200hp and 500nm torque, so it's more powerful than the 2.4l of the ms. Third row seats tho is not flat folding pa. If gusto niyo ng alternative, try checking out the nissan terra. Mejo plain nga lang interior but it has good build quality.

Thanks. Will take your advice into consideration. I also like the Terra especially the blacked out grille and wheels and they say the ride quality is among the best in class.