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    #101
    We personally don't like the look of the Xpander so we crossed that off the list.

    As mentioned before, it would just be me and my mom that would be riding it for the majority of the time. A 5-seater would be enough but my mom thinks the extra seat may be needed in times when we go out with our other relatives as well as friends. Personally I would be fine with 5-seater crossovers like the Mazda CX-5 or the Subaru Forester but my mom wants a diesel-fed PPV.

    Another car we're looking into is the Honda CR-V 1.6 S since it combines 7 seats and a diesel engine with a better ride quality than PPVs. How does it fare compared to both the Montero GT 4x2 and the Fortuner Q?

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    #102
    In terms of ride and interior space, the CRV diesel will be better than the Montero and Fortuner. Handling will also be better.


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    #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    In terms of ride and interior space, the CRV diesel will be better than the Montero and Fortuner. Handling will also be better.


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    Sa 2nd row agree ako pero not sure if sa 3rd row lamang pa din si crv?


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    #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    In terms of ride and interior space, the CRV diesel will be better than the Montero and Fortuner. Handling will also be better.


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    Would you say it's better to get the CR-V?

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    #105
    Quote Originally Posted by 2 B View Post
    Another car we're looking into is the Honda CR-V 1.6 S since it combines 7 seats and a diesel engine with a better ride quality than PPVs. How does it fare compared to both the Montero GT 4x2 and the Fortuner Q?
    1.6 S now has Honda Sensing, great value if you're into active safety like adaptive cruise, AEB, lane-keep assist.

    With nagging issues like the forever engine support failure and steering gearbox replacement, best to see if it's worth the risk. Join the cr-v groups online and do research.

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    #106
    Boto din ako sa CR-V diesel over sa PPV. Okay lang masikip 3rd row kung pang emergency use lang.

    Double check lang iyong nabanggit sa engine support at steering kung naayos na sa cuŕrent facelift. Plus, test drive/ride.

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    #107
    Quote Originally Posted by 2 B View Post
    We personally don't like the look of the Xpander so we crossed that off the list.

    As mentioned before, it would just be me and my mom that would be riding it for the majority of the time. A 5-seater would be enough but my mom thinks the extra seat may be needed in times when we go out with our other relatives as well as friends. Personally I would be fine with 5-seater crossovers like the Mazda CX-5 or the Subaru Forester but my mom wants a diesel-fed PPV.

    Another car we're looking into is the Honda CR-V 1.6 S since it combines 7 seats and a diesel engine with a better ride quality than PPVs. How does it fare compared to both the Montero GT 4x2 and the Fortuner Q?
    If 2 lang kayo ng mom mo sasakay, definitely the best choice is CRV especially riding comfort and ease to drive/maneuver also.

    Pero kung gusto nyo ng matagtag and magdrive ng pickup-like vehicle, then montero/fortuner.[emoji51] malayo ang crv sa PPVs


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    #108
    Yeah I've heard about those issues on the engine support. I'm still researching if it's worth the risk.


    And yeah we do plan to test drive. It just sucks that the pandemic still limits travelling. Only Toyota has a dealership in Mindoro so we may have no choice but to get the Fortuner if the lockdowns continue. My mom was planning on getting the vehicle delivered to us instead so we won't need to travel to get it but I've advised against it since we still need to see if the vehicle is as good in person as it is on paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post
    If 2 lang kayo ng mom mo sasakay, definitely the best choice is CRV especially riding comfort and ease to drive/maneuver also.

    Pero kung gusto nyo ng matagtag and magdrive ng pickup-like vehicle, then montero/fortuner.[emoji51] malayo ang crv sa PPVs


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    The inferior ride quality is really the main disadvantage we can think of if we get a PPV. That's why we're still heavily considering the CRV

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by 2 B View Post
    So my mom finally decides that she wants to buy a car for our family of two. This will be the first car she'll own. The budget is around 1.3M-1.4M through bank load (around 700k downpayment). What would be a good choice?

    Here's things to consider:
    -She doesn't like sedans because she says it's too low and/or small.
    -We live in the province so there's no heavy traffic.
    -Something easy to manage would be better since neither my mon or me know that much about cars
    -7-seaters is not that important since there's only two of us in our household

    Currently she's eyeing the Ford Territory Titanium. Is that a good choice and what would be a better alternative? Also, what do you guys think about buying 2nd-hand cars at the same price point to get a better, albeit slightly used, vehicle?

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    get one with a dealer near your area, for less complicated maintenance.
    we probably know by now, how covid can make our trips, difficult.
    get a camry. that should be big enough, and easy to get in and out of. and i bet the ride and drive are very smooth.
    unless you do frequent off-roading on the road and need a taller vehicle...

    it gets to be more and more difficult, getting in and out of a car, as the years advance on mom.
    my spouse is vertically challenged. she does not complain, but i can see her "discomfort" at getting in and out of the innova.
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    #110
    Quote Originally Posted by 2 B View Post
    Yeah I've heard about those issues on the engine support. I'm still researching if it's worth the risk.


    And yeah we do plan to test drive. It just sucks that the pandemic still limits travelling. Only Toyota has a dealership in Mindoro so we may have no choice but to get the Fortuner if the lockdowns continue. My mom was planning on getting the vehicle delivered to us instead so we won't need to travel to get it but I've advised against it since we still need to see if the vehicle is as good in person as it is on paper.



    The inferior ride quality is really the main disadvantage we can think of if we get a PPV. That's why we're still heavily considering the CRV
    Mindoro pala kayo nakatira and toyota lang pala meron dyan. That’s definitely a huge plus especially if need ng warranty claims or emergency problems.

    Also, better ang PPV if maraming offroad kayong nadadaanan.

    If mag-Roro kayo, dont forget to get additional underchassis rustproofing


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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    get one with a dealer near your area, for less complicated maintenance.
    we probably know by now, how covid can make our trips, difficult.
    get a camry. that should be big enough, and easy to get in and out of. and i bet the ride and drive are very smooth.
    unless you do frequent off-roading on the road and need a taller vehicle...

    it gets to be more and more difficult, getting in and out of a car, as the years advance on mom.
    my spouse is vertically challenged. she does not complain, but i can see her "discomfort" at getting in and out of the innova.

    There's no dealership "near" our area. The closest is in Calapan City and that's still approximately a 5-hour travel or more.

    I've asked if she wanted a sedan instead but she prefers one with a higher ride. One of the reasons she's leaning towards the Fortuner Q rather than the CRV 1.6 S is that it has a higher ride as it's a PPV.

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    #112
    The current Sorento is on sale now at 1.5M. It has 7 seats, rides like a CUV, and powered by a diesel engine. Maybe you can take a look. It seems you’re far away from most dealers and it is easier for you to cross the island than drive 5 hours to Calapan. So, any option can be considered as long as it meets your requirements.

    If a comfortable ride is a key requirement, then a PPV is not what you need. I would understand the key reasons why others would not mind the harsher ride as it is cheaper on fuel and deals better with rough roads.


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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by 2 B View Post
    There's no dealership "near" our area. The closest is in Calapan City and that's still approximately a 5-hour travel or more.

    I've asked if she wanted a sedan instead but she prefers one with a higher ride. One of the reasons she's leaning towards the Fortuner Q rather than the CRV 1.6 S is that it has a higher ride as it's a PPV.
    If you'll decide to get a fortuner, upgrade your shocks to tein endurapro plus, I just upgraded mine a few weeks ago, ride is way better than stock and stock height siya, before sa stock, maramdaman mo na matigas siya whenever may bumps or uneven road surface, now you'll feel it pa rin but a little softer na, and you can adjust it to your preference kasi 16 way adjustable damping siya.

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    #114
    Kung comfort talaga hanap niyo, then get something with an air suspension instead. Di mo makikita yan sa mga typical cuvs na nasa market. Ang problema nga lang wala ata yun sa mga 3 million and below na models eh.

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Kung comfort talaga hanap niyo, then get something with an air suspension instead. Ang problema wala ata meron nun sa mga 3 million below na models eh.
    You can buy a CX9 or Explorer for less than 3M. These are surely more comfortable than any CUV or PPV. I am not sure if they have air suspension but they are much better in terms of comfort for something around 3M.

    Yun nga lang, hindi diesel nga ito. Besides yung may pambili ng mga eto, sure hindi nagtitipid. Hahahaha


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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Kung comfort talaga hanap niyo, then get something with an air suspension instead. Di mo makikita yan sa mga typical cuvs na nasa market. Ang problema nga lang wala ata yun sa mga 3 million and below na models eh.
    used range rover evoque or used discovery some of them had air suspension. Even on some cuvs from bmw, audi, mb.

    Well this may not be recommended for first time buyers jumping into premium makes.

    Ok din ang sinabi ni egan, just get a cx9 and explorer.

    if diesel look na lang for hyundai santa fe crdi.

    Wala nga lang silang airsus.

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    #117
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    used range rover evoque or used discovery some of them had air suspension. Even on some cuvs from bmw, audi, mb.

    Well this may not be recommended for first time buyers jumping into premium makes.

    Ok din ang sinabi ni egan, just get a cx9 and explorer.

    if diesel look na lang for hyundai santa fe crdi.

    Wala nga lang silang airsus.
    Lc200 at lc prado, plus patrol royale and expedition alam ko meron eh. Pero yun nga lang with the exception of lcp, they're mighty big. Unfortunately, all of them are way above the 3 million mark also while parang mahirap mag settle sa euro brands unless budget isn't really a concern. Btw, mga cuvs kaya ng lexus meron ding airsus?

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    #118
    Medyo firm yung CX-9 but the handling is superb considering its size. Explorer has that 'Murican floaty but comfortable ride.

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    #119
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Lc200 at lc prado, plus patrol royale and expedition alam ko meron eh. Pero yun nga lang with the exception of lcp, they're mighty big. Unfortunately, all of them are way above the 3 million mark also while parang mahirap mag settle sa euro brands unless budget isn't really a concern. Btw, mga cuvs kaya ng lexus meron ding airsus?
    The RX350 may airsus. And the expedition's luxurious brother, the Lincoln Navigator.

    pati Cadillac Escalade and their CUVs have airsus..

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    #120
    revo na lang.
    heh heh heh.

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