audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**troscat** · March 7th, 2019 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepcare

Nothing wrong if tuning was done by ear to be honest. Almost all usually starts with the equipment then tune ulit by ear pero usually minor details nalang.

No additional cost means bringing it back to the installer and telling him/her the problem. Wag ka muna papayag na pabilhin ka ng ibang items.

2nd option is bringing it to another installer for checking. Pero usually eto at cost na kasi gagamitin mo oras niya.

Where's your location?

Ang main concern ko kasi boss baka hindi level matched yong mga gears. Parang feel ko hindi masyado defined yong separation ng High and Low Frequencies parang may overlapping kaya medyo mudded yong sounds at high volume if that's the right term to say. Matanong ko na rin, aside sa volume control ng HU saan ba dapat ideal mag set ng gain, sa LOC ba or sa Amp? What about yong HPF at LPF ng amp ano yong dapat naka set? Sa akin kasi yong apat na channel naka set siya sa HPF aside sa mga options na LPF at Full.

Sa Cebu pala ako boss Sleepcare.

Thanks.

**Sleepcare** · March 7th, 2019 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

Mahal din pala? Akala ko kaya lang mahal yung Kicker setup sa CRV kasi galing Honda. Eh 40k din pala price sa labas so same lang.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

"Mahal" is actually subjective when it comes to car audio.

Yung 40k sa labas vs 40k sa dealership actually differs a lot if you'll consider the added equipments that will be used.

For the "40k sa labas", you'll get the following:

-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)
-1 pair of 6.5" coaxials (rear)
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed)
-1 set of door deadening material (outer shell only)
-1 4-channel amplifier
-1 12" subwoofer
-Box for the subwoofer
-Wiring
-Labor

This set varies from shop to shop so better check your friendly car audio shop. Some might take out something and some might add something.

Personally if i were to build a simple system, ganito gagawin ko.

All prices are inflated and wiring/labor price is also an estimate:

Set 1 (underseat sub)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-2 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 5k
-underseat sub * 10k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 29k so round off nalang natin to 30k

Set 2 (sealed box)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-4 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 7k
-12" subwoofer Pioneer * 5k
-Subwoofer box * 2k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 28k round off nalang natin ulit to 30k

You'll get more bang for the buck sa set 2 but if may space constraints, set 1 should suffice.

Originally Posted by troscat

Ang main concern ko kasi boss baka hindi level matched yong mga gears. Parang feel ko hindi masyado defined yong separation ng High and Low Frequencies parang may overlapping kaya medyo mudded yong sounds at high volume if that's the right term to say. Matanong ko na rin, aside sa volume control ng HU saan ba dapat ideal mag set ng gain, sa LOC ba or sa Amp? What about yong HPF at LPF ng amp ano yong dapat naka set? Sa akin kasi yong apat na channel naka set siya sa HPF aside sa mga options na LPF at Full.

Sa Cebu pala ako boss Sleepcare.

Thanks.

When i read the bold part ng reply mo, i knew that it is only a setting problem. I need to know your wiring diagram sa amplifier before i'll give suggestions.

LOC gain dapat hindi ginagalaw yan. Dapat nasa gitna lang based on experience. Adjust the gain thru the amplifier only.

There is no perfect hpf/lpf setting kasi we're doing it in the worst environment to produce proper sound (car) so it varies from car to car and equipment to equipment.

Sorry, i can't help sa Cebu area kasi wala ako kilala doon. Nasa Dumaguete kasi yung kilala ko. I'll check with him for Cebu area.

**Egan101** · March 7th, 2019 05:03 PM

I knew some folks who insure their audio setups. Hehehehe

**Sleepcare** · March 7th, 2019 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

I knew some folks who insure their audio setups. Hehehehe

Mahirap na, isang surge lang katapat

**ninjababez** · March 7th, 2019 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepcare

Ramdam ba sa hatak?

ct.

di naman siguro pero parang mahigit 100 lbs yun 1 roll eh [emoji23][emoji1787]

Sent from my MI MAX 3 using Tapatalk

**Sleepcare** · March 7th, 2019 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by ninjababez

di naman siguro pero parang mahigit 100 lbs yun 1 roll eh [emoji23][emoji1787]

Sent from my MI MAX 3 using Tapatalk

Naku po!

😂

**troscat** · March 8th, 2019 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Sleepcare

"Mahal" is actually subjective when it comes to car audio.

Yung 40k sa labas vs 40k sa dealership actually differs a lot if you'll consider the added equipments that will be used.

For the "40k sa labas", you'll get the following:

-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)
-1 pair of 6.5" coaxials (rear)
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed)
-1 set of door deadening material (outer shell only)
-1 4-channel amplifier
-1 12" subwoofer
-Box for the subwoofer
-Wiring
-Labor

This set varies from shop to shop so better check your friendly car audio shop. Some might take out something and some might add something.

Personally if i were to build a simple system, ganito gagawin ko.

All prices are inflated and wiring/labor price is also an estimate:

Set 1 (underseat sub)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-2 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 5k
-underseat sub * 10k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 29k so round off nalang natin to 30k

Set 2 (sealed box)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-4 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 7k
-12" subwoofer Pioneer * 5k
-Subwoofer box * 2k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 28k round off nalang natin ulit to 30k

You'll get more bang for the buck sa set 2 but if may space constraints, set 1 should suffice.

When i read the bold part ng reply mo, i knew that it is only a setting problem. I need to know your wiring diagram sa amplifier before i'll give suggestions.

LOC gain dapat hindi ginagalaw yan. Dapat nasa gitna lang based on experience. Adjust the gain thru the amplifier only.

There is no perfect hpf/lpf setting kasi we're doing it in the worst environment to produce proper sound (car) so it varies from car to car and equipment to equipment.

Sorry, i can't help sa Cebu area kasi wala ako kilala doon. Nasa Dumaguete kasi yung kilala ko. I'll check with him for Cebu area.

Heto Boss Sleepcare yong wiring diagram ng setup ko, baka pwede na yan. Nahihirapan kasi ako mag attach ng image.

HU==Line Level==>LOC==RCA Out #1to#4==>4Ch Amp==Ch.1&2==>CrossoverX2==>Front Speakers
ll ll
ll ll
ll ll
ll ======Ch. 3&4===>Rear Speakers
ll
====RCA Out #5==>Powered Sub

Thanks.

**troscat** · March 8th, 2019 12:29 AM

Qoops! Bakit nag move yong ibang characters. Dapat under sa LOC at 4Ch. Amp respectively yong nasa tabi hindi sa HU. Sorry.

**Sleepcare** · March 8th, 2019 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by troscat

Heto Boss Sleepcare yong wiring diagram ng setup ko, baka pwede na yan. Nahihirapan kasi ako mag attach ng image.

HU==Line Level==>LOC==RCA Out #1to#4==>4Ch Amp==Ch.1&2==>CrossoverX2==>Front Speakers
ll ll
ll ll
ll ll
ll ======Ch. 3&4===>Rear Speakers
ll
====RCA Out #5==>Powered Sub

Thanks.

Actually good to know that you know the wiring diagram of your build.

Here's what i can help (tune by ear):

-Reset the LOC gain to the middle
-Reset (sagad sa counter-clockwise) the gain of channel 1&2 and channel 3&4)
-Switch to FULL instead of HPF for channel 1&2 and channel 3&4
-Do a pink noise (unoccupied radio station will do)
-Turn the amplifier gain clockwise until you hear clipping
-Do the same for the gain sa other channel
-Play a familar song to you
-Check if pwede na yung tunog. If not, do the gain again.

Or you can use a digital multimeter if you have 1 laying around.

PM nalang tayo if you have other inquiries or we can use the thread para malaman din ng iba. Hehe i think part of the thread naman yung concern mo

**jut703** · March 8th, 2019 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepcare

"Mahal" is actually subjective when it comes to car audio.

Yung 40k sa labas vs 40k sa dealership actually differs a lot if you'll consider the added equipments that will be used.

For the "40k sa labas", you'll get the following:

-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)
-1 pair of 6.5" coaxials (rear)
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed)
-1 set of door deadening material (outer shell only)
-1 4-channel amplifier
-1 12" subwoofer
-Box for the subwoofer
-Wiring
-Labor

This set varies from shop to shop so better check your friendly car audio shop. Some might take out something and some might add something.

Personally if i were to build a simple system, ganito gagawin ko.

All prices are inflated and wiring/labor price is also an estimate:

Set 1 (underseat sub)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-2 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 5k
-underseat sub * 10k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 29k so round off nalang natin to 30k

Set 2 (sealed box)
-1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
-1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
-Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
-4 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 7k
-12" subwoofer Pioneer * 5k
-Subwoofer box * 2k
-Wiring and labor * 5k

TOTAL - 28k round off nalang natin ulit to 30k

You'll get more bang for the buck sa set 2 but if may space constraints, set 1 should suffice.

For the 40k I got this set incl. deadening, installation and labor:

Parang same dun sa 40k sa labas na set that you mentioned except that it's an underseat sub instead of a box sub.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk