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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    "Mahal" is actually subjective when it comes to car audio.

    Yung 40k sa labas vs 40k sa dealership actually differs a lot if you'll consider the added equipments that will be used.

    For the "40k sa labas", you'll get the following:

    -1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)
    -1 pair of 6.5" coaxials (rear)
    -1 set speaker spacer (if needed)
    -1 set of door deadening material (outer shell only)
    -1 4-channel amplifier
    -1 12" subwoofer
    -Box for the subwoofer
    -Wiring
    -Labor

    This set varies from shop to shop so better check your friendly car audio shop. Some might take out something and some might add something.

    Personally if i were to build a simple system, ganito gagawin ko.

    All prices are inflated and wiring/labor price is also an estimate:

    Set 1 (underseat sub)
    -1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
    -1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
    -Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
    -2 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 5k
    -underseat sub * 10k
    -Wiring and labor * 5k

    TOTAL - 29k so round off nalang natin to 30k


    Set 2 (sealed box)
    -1 pair of 6.5" 2-way seperates (front)- Pioneer * 5k
    -1 set speaker spacer (if needed) * 1k
    -Front door deadening (inner and outer shell) * 3k
    -4 channel amplifier (powering the front speakers) * 7k
    -12" subwoofer Pioneer * 5k
    -Subwoofer box * 2k
    -Wiring and labor * 5k

    TOTAL - 28k round off nalang natin ulit to 30k

    You'll get more bang for the buck sa set 2 but if may space constraints, set 1 should suffice.
    For the 40k I got this set incl. deadening, installation and labor:



    Parang same dun sa 40k sa labas na set that you mentioned except that it's an underseat sub instead of a box sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    For the 40k I got this set incl. deadening, installation and labor:



    Parang same dun sa 40k sa labas na set that you mentioned except that it's an underseat sub instead of a box sub.

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    If so, good deal na din yung kicker set * 40k lalo na for a space saver build.

    But yung 40k sa labas na i've mentioned "mas busog" kasi higher yung wattage compared sa kicker build.

    Maybe you can try the kicker build again sa Civic but i'm sure na maghahanap ka na ng difference character when it comes to your sounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    If so, good deal na din yung kicker set * 40k lalo na for a space saver build.

    But yung 40k sa labas na i've mentioned "mas busog" kasi higher yung wattage compared sa kicker build.

    Maybe you can try the kicker build again sa Civic but i'm sure na maghahanap ka na ng difference character when it comes to your sounds
    agree, very good deal na if it includes pa installation, tuning and labor. magkakatalo na lang how the installer tune it to jut's liking. sino installer mo bro jut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    If so, good deal na din yung kicker set * 40k lalo na for a space saver build.

    But yung 40k sa labas na i've mentioned "mas busog" kasi higher yung wattage compared sa kicker build.

    Maybe you can try the kicker build again sa Civic but i'm sure na maghahanap ka na ng difference character when it comes to your sounds
    Yeah looking to try something different for the Civic. Although no rush to upgrade naman - when I feel like listening to music, I use the CRV but pag FM radio lang then any car is fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    agree, very good deal na if it includes pa installation, tuning and labor. magkakatalo na lang how the installer tune it to jut's liking. sino installer mo bro jut?

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    Honda QC nagkabit bro. Then tuned it myself since may AI DSP naman yung amp so literally 1 click lang to tune it.

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    I'm looking to upgrade my focal 25a4. It's decent and get really loud but it can get muddy. Wala din masyado extension and it can't go really low. Any suggestions? Location would be my spare tire well so I can't get something that would take a lot of space.. I'm not really looking for something loud

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptar View Post
    I'm looking to upgrade my focal 25a4. It's decent and get really loud but it can get muddy. Wala din masyado extension and it can't go really low. Any suggestions? Location would be my spare tire well so I can't get something that would take a lot of space.. I'm not really looking for something loud
    What amp are you using to power that 10" sub? How about the box you use?

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    I'm using a Mercury audio m800 amp. Not really sure about the the exact dimensions of the enclosure but it's made of fiberglass and is shaped a like a cylinder. Sakto lang lang sa spare tire well

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptar View Post
    I'm using a Mercury audio m800 amp. Not really sure about the the exact dimensions of the enclosure but it's made of fiberglass and is shaped a like a cylinder. Sakto lang lang sa spare tire well
    Was the enclosure properly designed for the sub? I suggest you use a slim sealed rectangular enclosure (made of MDF). Focal recommends a sealed enclosure with a volume between 15 liters (0.53 cubic feet) and 25 liters (0.88 cubic feet) for the 25a4 (as per specs). To adjust loudness, you just have to lower the gains on the amp to provide a cleaner signal for the sub.

    With my 10" RF sub before, I used a 12x12x12 (inches) sealed enclosure that came out to around 0.75 cubic feet which was good enough for in-car listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Was the enclosure properly designed for the sub? I suggest you use a slim sealed rectangular enclosure (made of MDF). Focal recommends a sealed enclosure with a volume between 15 liters (0.53 cubic feet) and 25 liters (0.88 cubic feet) for the 25a4 (as per specs). To adjust loudness, you just have to lower the gains on the amp to provide a cleaner signal for the sub.

    With my 10" RF sub before, I used a 12x12x12 (inches) sealed enclosure that came out to around 0.75 cubic feet which was good enough for in-car listening.
    I really don't know the specs of the box but I assume siguro naman. Anyway is it a good idea to take it out and refabricate a new box? And is it okay to have a circle shaped box so long as you met the proper volume?

    Another question: what's the best tweeter location? The stock location of my Tweeters are on the dash , facing the windshield. I'm thinking of getting some tweeter pods and relocating them

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptar View Post
    I really don't know the specs of the box but I assume siguro naman. Anyway is it a good idea to take it out and refabricate a new box? And is it okay to have a circle shaped box so long as you met the proper volume?

    Another question: what's the best tweeter location? The stock location of my Tweeters are on the dash , facing the windshield. I'm thinking of getting some tweeter pods and relocating them
    Yes, you can make a new box for the sub and keep it within the required volume.

    For the tweets, most car doors have mounts for tweeters so just use them. If your tweeters would not fit the door mounts, you can make a custom mount and place them on the A pillar or use pods placed at the base of the A pillar. Be sure to point the tweeters towards the center area of the car, between the two front seats to maximise sound staging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptar View Post
    I really don't know the specs of the box but I assume siguro naman. Anyway is it a good idea to take it out and refabricate a new box? And is it okay to have a circle shaped box so long as you met the proper volume?

    Another question: what's the best tweeter location? The stock location of my Tweeters are on the dash , facing the windshield. I'm thinking of getting some tweeter pods and relocating them

    Thats one of the worst placement for a tweeter. You can use the supplied mounting pod of the tweeter and place it on your dash pointing towards the center but if you dont want anything to be placed on your dash, you can mount it at the side mirror for off axis and control it thru eq of your headunit. Tweeters are directional so dont place it where it will reflect on a glass.

    I have a new vios and i never placed my teeeters on the stock location.

    The best result will almost always be the a pillar and be as much as possible at ear lever. Thats the only speaker in reality you can choose the location where it will have a clear path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reptar View Post
    I really don't know the specs of the box but I assume siguro naman. Anyway is it a good idea to take it out and refabricate a new box? And is it okay to have a circle shaped box so long as you met the proper volume?

    Another question: what's the best tweeter location? The stock location of my Tweeters are on the dash , facing the windshield. I'm thinking of getting some tweeter pods and relocating them
    Thats one of the worst placement for a tweeter. You can use the supplied mounting pod of the tweeter and place it on your dash pointing towards the center but if you dont want anything to be placed on your dash, you can mount it at the side mirror for off axis and control it thru eq of your headunit. Tweeters are directional so dont place it where it will reflect on a glass.

    I have a new vios and i never placed my teeeters on the stock location.

    The best result will almost always be the a pillar and be as much as possible at ear lever. Thats the only speaker in reality you can choose the location where it will have a clear path.

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