Quote Originally Posted by Lzarellano View Post
Any thoughts on "subless" SQ setup? Is it possible with mid level DLS seps and fully deadened front doors? Im using the small pioneer premier 8" shallow sub placed under the driver's seat. Im planning to get rid of it, get a processor and run fully active. Im only using a 4 channel amp and I dont want to buy another amp for the sub. Im using wideband tweeters that can go down to 800-1k hz btw.

Should I go subless? Or the expenses for another amp+wirings for my sub will be worth it? The sub Im using cant go deep and cant go loud btw, it is too small. And I have no space and no $$$ for shallow, deep, and loud 10inch subs like the JL's.

EDIT: Current setup is passive. My 4 channel amp powers the seps(with external Xover) and the sub
Is it possible? Of course. Kahit entry-level pa yan. However, the key to achieving a good sub-less setup isn't with fully deadened front doors but by trying to achieve a truly rigid enclosure through the use of many techniques (deadening, inserting foam, etc.) . Hindi lang yan puro deadening (case to point: my doors have like 3 sheets each; still rattles) that's why a lot of people who truly want to go sub-less cut their doors to accommodate a miniature enclosure in it (ex. Bewith midbass). It's like finding a bookshelf speaker and just slapping it sa doors.

The reason for this is that vibrations is your worst enemy as even a small rattle reduces your decibel output by a lot. That's why a 8" midbass doesn't sound as good as a 8" subwoofer. Drivers-aside, it's usually the enclosure.

Will it be worth it? Will depend on your taste. My recommendation is to first test it out. I would recommend a 50hz cutoff. Just remember to play around with the EQ and the slopes to get ample low-end. Don't be afraid to pump it up. Most midbass drivers can handle much more than you think.