audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[mouse25]

Mga sir,

Tanung lang po. Anu po ba magandang sound set up sa corolla ku po? Nakabili na po ako ng Sub na JBL GT5 S12. Nasa L shaped ported box na din po tapos po yung amp niya is yung 2500 max na 4/3/2 channel na V12. Bumili pa po kaya ako ng GT5 S12 para dual sub or wag na? Patulong naman po sa HU at sa mga abubot na kailanga pa. Pang bayo po sana mga sir. Thanks! Tska magkano po ba yung paporma nung sounds sa trunk ng auto? Tanung ku na din po kung san niyo recommend magpagawa at bumili.


Note: Student lang po ako. Kaya kung pwede po sana budget meal Thanks!

[tsikotshop]

Pag bumili ka ng isa pang sub, di mo na magagamit ang dati mong box kase mawawala na sa design, mas maganda kung i mamaximize mo yang nandyan na at focus on a good head unit muna, then pag wala ka pa nung seps para sa harap, sunod mo na rin. For spl system, you have to get a good amp(mono amp) for these, pwede nga yung 2 sub na gt5 s12 in a good tuned box like 38hz for spl, then surely, at least 800watts * 2 ohms monoblock if your sub is jbls12 single 4 ohms, unlike V-12 amps kase, mono or class D amp are better driving subs, tipid sa kuryente at mas solid yung bass, pure kase na bass lang ang lalabas sa subs mo.
Head unit, beter hanap ka ng at least 4volts 3 rca pre outs like yung bago ngayun na pioneer 6350, or, pwede din yung iba na 2 volts lang na may rca out, then gamit ka na lang ng active crossover, sure budget dyan around 30k minimum kasama na yung woodworks sa trunk, necessary wirings, electrical upgrade, cables, amplifiers etc, because, you want spl, he he, big three upgrade and a 2 farad capacitor for sure, maybe ad it to your budget, if you stay on your current set up, pwede rin yan, palitan mo na lang yang v-12 mo ng mono amp at least 300watts rms * 4 ohms para sa sub at gamitin mo na lang yang amp sa front and rear speakers, head unit syempre kung wala ka pa..
Recommended shop, ehem, kung around taguig ka lang dito na lang sa shop namin sa taguig, if not, marami nababanggit na car audio shop dito sa forum e, better ask first na lang muna for prices baka madugo, err,

[jhnkvn]

I just want to ask the experts if it's true that you need to turn down the volume of your I.C.E. before you turn off the radio to prevent damage when you turn the radio on again.

Never heard of this hocus-pocus. So it's false.

[mouse25]

Pag bumili ka ng isa pang sub, di mo na magagamit ang dati mong box kase mawawala na sa design, mas maganda kung i mamaximize mo yang nandyan na at focus on a good head unit muna, then pag wala ka pa nung seps para sa harap, sunod mo na rin. For spl system, you have to get a good amp(mono amp) for these, pwede nga yung 2 sub na gt5 s12 in a good tuned box like 38hz for spl, then surely, at least 800watts * 2 ohms monoblock if your sub is jbls12 single 4 ohms, unlike V-12 amps kase, mono or class D amp are better driving subs, tipid sa kuryente at mas solid yung bass, pure kase na bass lang ang lalabas sa subs mo.
Head unit, beter hanap ka ng at least 4volts 3 rca pre outs like yung bago ngayun na pioneer 6350, or, pwede din yung iba na 2 volts lang na may rca out, then gamit ka na lang ng active crossover, sure budget dyan around 30k minimum kasama na yung woodworks sa trunk, necessary wirings, electrical upgrade, cables, amplifiers etc, because, you want spl, he he, big three upgrade and a 2 farad capacitor for sure, maybe ad it to your budget, if you stay on your current set up, pwede rin yan, palitan mo na lang yang v-12 mo ng mono amp at least 300watts rms * 4 ohms para sa sub at gamitin mo na lang yang amp sa front and rear speakers, head unit syempre kung wala ka pa..
Recommended shop, ehem, kung around taguig ka lang dito na lang sa shop namin sa taguig, if not, marami nababanggit na car audio shop dito sa forum e, better ask first na lang muna for prices baka madugo, err,

Salamat sa reply sir! Anu po ba mas magandang HU, Pioneer or Alpine? Yung sub ku po kasi ngayon is 1200 watts, anu mono amp po kailangan dun? Di ko po gets. Sorry newbie. Salamat po!

[tsikotshop]

the best head unit sir is what fit your budget there, if you can go with alpine, were go ahead, it was the best for car audio like the alpine 9887, it's unique ability is the 24bit DAC, digital to analog converter which means from your song converted to mp3 format sound, if you play it to that kind of head unit, it will play like a cd format file or nearly to flack or wav file.. about naman po dun sa sub nyo, the rating 1200watts is its rated peak power, so just ignore these numbers, actually it's just around 300watts rms. Mono amp(like class D amplifiers) po is a single channel amp that only produce low pass frequency, good to a known subwoofer like you have and very efficient in power source, marami na ngayun ng ganung klasing amp na mura lang like our new lightning lab amp rated 600watts * 1ohm stable for around 5k in prices, your existing amplifier is a 4 channel amp normally in class ab switching, so limited on filtering such low frequency, sorry, but V-12 amps always isn't good in that way, it's rated power you said 2500 watts max is its peak combined power, mostly, they are around 80watts rms by 4 * 4 ohms, their just producing more on flat frequency responces and power so you need a good head unit or a crossover to do the work in fine tuning your system.

[jhnkvn]

Mouse, saw your exact post in KAC pero dito nalang ako mareply.

First thing is that "porma" is normally expensive. I always advice those who venture into car audio to not underestimate how much this hobby drains our wallets.. literally. Masmabilis talaga if you provide us with complete details rather than us making guesses on what your equipment is. ALWAYS indicate a budget

First thing is to get a proper headunit. Pioneer/Alpine, ikaw na bahala dyan. Both are good brands and you can't really go wrong with either of them. Personally, I like Alpine's 117 and 9887 (around 13k) for its tuning flexibility. Anything else and I stick with Pioneer (especially their yummy P99RS.. pero nasa pangarap ko lang yun)

iandvro in KAC was suggesting to deaden the doors. Deadening is to help reduce panel resonance.. in short, better sound from the speaker. But it's expensive for its "additional" benefits. Best leave it out on a budget setup and use the money on a better sounding front separates instead.

There's no such thing as a "mura" setup. You typically get what you payed for. Most Banawe installers offer sound packages that include free installation and "tuning" (I won't hope much from them though) so be sure to take advantage of that. I can't give you recommendations on what to purchase... these info is just a search away. So next time, use the search button.

Also, as tsikotshops says, stop using V12s. Mabilis lang sila masira so in the long run, you're spending more. In this case, I'll take a good amp over 5 cheapo amps.

*tsikotshop
Alpine was actually selling the 9887 at 12k during the Trans Sport Show in SMX :D

[tsikotshop]

wew, i don't hear they sale it for that price, I have say it to my master jedi and surely he being shock too ha ha, so at is, thanks for the info sir jhnkvn.

[userfriendly]

Wow 9887 for 12K sayang hindi ako nakapunta sa smx

[jhnkvn]

The actual price was around 12.7k I believe. Pretty sure I didn't misread that it's the 9887 >_>

[mouse25]

the best head unit sir is what fit your budget there, if you can go with alpine, were go ahead, it was the best for car audio like the alpine 9887, it's unique ability is the 24bit DAC, digital to analog converter which means from your song converted to mp3 format sound, if you play it to that kind of head unit, it will play like a cd format file or nearly to flack or wav file.. about naman po dun sa sub nyo, the rating 1200watts is its rated peak power, so just ignore these numbers, actually it's just around 300watts rms. Mono amp(like class D amplifiers) po is a single channel amp that only produce low pass frequency, good to a known subwoofer like you have and very efficient in power source, marami na ngayun ng ganung klasing amp na mura lang like our new lightning lab amp rated 600watts * 1ohm stable for around 5k in prices, your existing amplifier is a 4 channel amp normally in class ab switching, so limited on filtering such low frequency, sorry, but V-12 amps always isn't good in that way, it's rated power you said 2500 watts max is its peak combined power, mostly, they are around 80watts rms by 4 * 4 ohms, their just producing more on flat frequency responces and power so you need a good head unit or a crossover to do the work in fine tuning your system.

Sir,

Salamat sa reply. Ang mahal ng alpine ) Baka yung Pioneer nalang kukunin ko yung bago na sinasabi mo 6.1k ata yun, sulit ba yun? Salamat! Nakita ko sa testfreaks yung alpine 9887 they're selling it at around $53, 6.6 rating nila eto po yung site.

http://www.testfreaks.com/car-audio-video-stereos/alpine-cda-9887/

Punta po ako minsan sa shop niyo. May natira kasing sukli sa tuition ko eh Salamat sir!

[mouse25]

Mouse, saw your exact post in KAC pero dito nalang ako mareply.

First thing is that "porma" is normally expensive. I always advice those who venture into car audio to not underestimate how much this hobby drains our wallets.. literally. Masmabilis talaga if you provide us with complete details rather than us making guesses on what your equipment is. ALWAYS indicate a budget

First thing is to get a proper headunit. Pioneer/Alpine, ikaw na bahala dyan. Both are good brands and you can't really go wrong with either of them. Personally, I like Alpine's 117 and 9887 (around 13k) for its tuning flexibility. Anything else and I stick with Pioneer (especially their yummy P99RS.. pero nasa pangarap ko lang yun)

iandvro in KAC was suggesting to deaden the doors. Deadening is to help reduce panel resonance.. in short, better sound from the speaker. But it's expensive for its "additional" benefits. Best leave it out on a budget setup and use the money on a better sounding front separates instead.

There's no such thing as a "mura" setup. You typically get what you payed for. Most Banawe installers offer sound packages that include free installation and "tuning" (I won't hope much from them though) so be sure to take advantage of that. I can't give you recommendations on what to purchase... these info is just a search away. So next time, use the search button.

Also, as tsikotshops says, stop using V12s. Mabilis lang sila masira so in the long run, you're spending more. In this case, I'll take a good amp over 5 cheapo amps.

*tsikotshop
Alpine was actually selling the 9887 at 12k during the Trans Sport Show in SMX :D

Oo nga sir eh. Inuubos ang pera sa wallet ko. Haha. Salamat sa reply sir. Pero okay ba yung Pioneer na nirerecommend sakin ni sir tsikot? Mahal kasi nung alpine. May kenwood stock speakers ako pwede na ba yun? Dagdagan ku nalang ng seps?

[jhnkvn]

Take it slow. Best replace headunit first then those kenwood speakers. The biggest difference would be from replacing these two components.

[mouse25]

Take it slow. Best replace headunit first then those kenwood speakers. The biggest difference would be from replacing these two components.

Sir, eto nalang po ang bibilhin ko na headunit pioneer 6350. Okay na po ba yan? Wala po kasing usb port yung alpine. Salamat po! San po ba mura sa banawe sir?

[jhnkvn]

Para saan ba yun USB port? For iPod or USB stick use? If iPod, you can always use Alpine's KCE-422 iPod cable... propriety, sad, but at least kaya ng 9887 iPod controls

How far are you planning on your sound setup? If you plan on building gradually. Splurging on a 9887 would be better in the long run rather than selling your existing headunit. But if you plan on a relatively simple setup (in other words: walang sali-sali sa competition), a Pioneer 6350 suffices.

As an alternative.. You might want to look at the Alpine 9886's successor. Forgot ko na kung anong model number but it should have a USB port (9887's successor is the CDA-117 if I remember)

[mouse25]

Para saan ba yun USB port? For iPod or USB stick use? If iPod, you can always use Alpine's KCE-422 iPod cable... propriety, sad, but at least kaya ng 9887 iPod controls

How far are you planning on your sound setup? If you plan on building gradually. Splurging on a 9887 would be better in the long run rather than selling your existing headunit. But if you plan on a relatively simple setup (in other words: walang sali-sali sa competition), a Pioneer 6350 suffices.

As an alternative.. You might want to look at the Alpine 9886's successor. Forgot ko na kung anong model number but it should have a USB port (9887's successor is the CDA-117 if I remember)

Bro,

Ngayon ku lang napansin ikaw pala kausap ko sa KAC ) Mahal kasi nung 9887. Pa audi naman sayo tol ) Para may pagbasehan ako.

[mouse25]

Para saan ba yun USB port? For iPod or USB stick use? If iPod, you can always use Alpine's KCE-422 iPod cable... propriety, sad, but at least kaya ng 9887 iPod controls

How far are you planning on your sound setup? If you plan on building gradually. Splurging on a 9887 would be better in the long run rather than selling your existing headunit. But if you plan on a relatively simple setup (in other words: walang sali-sali sa competition), a Pioneer 6350 suffices.

As an alternative.. You might want to look at the Alpine 9886's successor. Forgot ko na kung anong model number but it should have a USB port (9887's successor is the CDA-117 if I remember)

Nakalimutan ko, oo tol pang iphone.

[jhnkvn]

Kung bakit ang mahal pa ng mga 9887 is because of its time alignment features. Possibly the #1 requirement in having a "good" sound system. Mahirap kasi pagwalang T/A and then sumasali ka lang sa competitions. You'd be hard-pressed to win.

Pagsimpleng sounds lang, I think okay naman mag Pionner ng mga 3-6k. Pili lang, no use being fussy since at its category, same lang naman mga features nila. There would be a lot of KAC people who'll be coming tomorrow night (Wednesday 8pm June 1) sa resto ni Tita elco at Kamias QC (check KAC for details) for an audition. I'll be there too since hihingi pa ako ng tuning tips sa mga masters, I think it would be worth the visit para makakuha ka ng tips sa mga tao doon. I'd say yun buong stay mo (8pm-11pm) would be worth 20 threads about sounds. I started out there din kasi.

P.S. Hindi ako nagaftermarket HU. Went for OEM headunit tapos nagdagdag nalang ako ng processor. More costly pero hirap maghanap ng dashkit sa auto ko.

[mouse25]

Kung bakit ang mahal pa ng mga 9887 is because of its time alignment features. Possibly the #1 requirement in having a "good" sound system. Mahirap kasi pagwalang T/A and then sumasali ka lang sa competitions. You'd be hard-pressed to win.

Pagsimpleng sounds lang, I think okay naman mag Pionner ng mga 3-6k. Pili lang, no use being fussy since at its category, same lang naman mga features nila. There would be a lot of KAC people who'll be coming tomorrow night (Wednesday 8pm June 1) sa resto ni Tita elco at Kamias QC (check KAC for details) for an audition. I'll be there too since hihingi pa ako ng tuning tips sa mga masters, I think it would be worth the visit para makakuha ka ng tips sa mga tao doon. I'd say yun buong stay mo (8pm-11pm) would be worth 20 threads about sounds. I started out there din kasi.

P.S. Hindi ako nagaftermarket HU. Went for OEM headunit tapos nagdagdag nalang ako ng processor. More costly pero hirap maghanap ng dashkit sa auto ko.

Baka mga bigtime auto niyo dun tol ) Bigbody lang sakin. Anyways, may pm ka tol Nag reply ako.

[jhnkvn]

Ayan na, going Loud n Clear na si sir Mouse nice to meet you kanina pare..

[Snoop23]

about po dun sa v12 amps..

hindi po sirain ang v12 amps nasa gumagamit parin po yan kahit gaano pa yan kamahal kung hindi mo naman iniingatan eh wala rin..

marami po akong kilalang mga naka v12 amps na taon narin ang binilang at hindi pa naman nasisira ako mismo naka v12 amp at wala naman akong sakit ng ulo.

nasa gumagamit parin po yan.