"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[tradewind26]

Hirap pala mag apply ng wax..Hehe.. Medyo nahirapan ako d2 sa 476, siguro dahil direct ko apply yung Wax, hindi ko ginamitan ng sealant muna. Rekta eh..Haha

[jol]

+1 kay watusi.

*jol: panel by panel mo ba ginawa sir?

yes sir, panel per panel ko ginawa yun 476. sir bakit may nakita ako light swirls sa sides at hood ko? may fillers ba ang KSG katulad ng nanoglos? dati kasi nun nanoglos gamit ko wala ako nakikita light swirls. Or baka dahil sa pag buff ko ng KAIO, KSG at 476 kaya nagka light swirls. hindi ko naman tinipid sa MF, puro plush ginamit ko.

[scharnhorst]

*tradewind26: matigas talaga 476. ok lang yan yung pagod mo susuklian yan ng 476 pag umulan. hehe.

*jols: see above. hehe. matigas talaga ilagay at ibuff off ang 476.

the klasse twins will fill in *some* swirls, but not to the same extent as nanoglos.

the swirl marks were probably there in the first place, and since parating nanoglos yung gamit mo dati, sanay ka na filled in parati yung swirls.

btw, yung Microtex NanoSiL... grabe mag fill ng swirls. Check nyo yung thread sa may PD regarding Nanosil. hehe

[cjv_justice]

interesado talaga ako dito sa bago ng Microtex... sana pwede i-hand buff...

[umi001]

Conflicting information from different sources. I'll have to go with Mike Phillips here though

Personally, I find it difficult to find IPA with no moisturizers so I prefer to wash the car or area again if I have to layer over an oil-containing product.

BTW, Microtex NANOSEAL is now out! can't wait to try this new product out. Promises excellent swirl filling of a glaze with durability of a sealant.

Had the same thought when I read the article - lots of conflicting information, but I'd also go with what Mike says

I've actually been looking for mineral spirits, for stripping off wax/sealant/polish. No luck so far though - hirap maghanap sa Pinas!

I want to give NanoSil a go as well - read your thread in PD, seems like a very promising product. I'm particularly interested in the swirl-filling ability - I'm planning to make our current car a keeper (first self-bought car kasi), so I'm planning on minimizing polishing as much as possible. That means I'll have to go with glaze/filling products to hide imperfections for the periods (at least a year) between polishing.

[umi001]

mas nahirapan ako mag buff ng 476 compare sa KAIO at KSG. pag mag re apply ako ng 476 after carwash then apply na agad 476? or KSG muna bago 476?

If you already have 476 as the topmost layer on the car (either by itself or over KSG), I'd just top with more 476 - the KSG might not bond correctly to a layer of wax.

[jol]

*tradewind26: matigas talaga 476. ok lang yan yung pagod mo susuklian yan ng 476 pag umulan. hehe.

*jols: see above. hehe. matigas talaga ilagay at ibuff off ang 476.

the klasse twins will fill in *some* swirls, but not to the same extent as nanoglos.

the swirl marks were probably there in the first place, and since parating nanoglos yung gamit mo dati, sanay ka na filled in parati yung swirls.

btw, yung Microtex NanoSiL... grabe mag fill ng swirls. Check nyo yung thread sa may PD regarding Nanosil. hehe

ok sir check ko sa PD. kung gagamit ako nanosil saan step ko gagamitin nanosil? KAIO - KSG - 476?

[scharnhorst]

still learning about this product... kung may curing time, kung saan pwede i-layer, we'll see, eventually.

just applied it by hand this morning, and though the swirl filling was not as good as if it were machine applied... it really deepens the color of the surfaces it's applied on.

it's like nanoglos on steroids. hehe.

[jhnkvn]

After my casa "wax" job after availing of their dent repair services (pokpok + repaint on one passenger door), I noticed my paint to be grainy at some parts but especially noticeable on the hood. This strikes me as odd since some parts of the hood is "grainy" while the some part is smooth (which is the "normal" tactile feeling). Any comments regarding it? Ipapacheck ko nalang sa mga masters during the upcoming PD EB.

[scharnhorst]

After my casa "wax" job after availing of their dent repair services (pokpok + repaint on one passenger door), I noticed my paint to be grainy at some parts but especially noticeable on the hood. This strikes me as odd since some parts of the hood is "grainy" while the some part is smooth (which is the "normal" tactile feeling). Any comments regarding it? Ipapacheck ko nalang sa mga masters during the upcoming PD EB.

as in rough? could be overspray

that'll be resolved by claying sir

[umi001]

After my casa "wax" job after availing of their dent repair services (pokpok + repaint on one passenger door), I noticed my paint to be grainy at some parts but especially noticeable on the hood. This strikes me as odd since some parts of the hood is "grainy" while the some part is smooth (which is the "normal" tactile feeling). Any comments regarding it? Ipapacheck ko nalang sa mga masters during the upcoming PD EB.

With your description, and being that it came from a repaint job, I'd agree with doc -definitely sounds like paint overspray. Best to get it removed via claying, before the paint sets. Oh, did they also wax the repainted areas? Waxing/sealing is usually not recommended for a certain time (usually 90 days) for repainted areas, to allow the paint enough time to outgas and cure.

[cjv_justice]

still learning about this product... kung may curing time, kung saan pwede i-layer, we'll see, eventually.

just applied it by hand this morning, and though the swirl filling was not as good as if it were machine applied... it really deepens the color of the surfaces it's applied on.

it's like nanoglos on steroids. hehe.

Kaso ang dami ko pang NanoGlos e (ayan na-excite na!). Mukhang mafa-fastrack pagkuha ko ng makina a, pero yari tayo kay misis. I'll be watching you guys from the sideline muna, ubusin ko muna si 'Glos...

[jol]

If you already have 476 as the topmost layer on the car (either by itself or over KSG), I'd just top with more 476 - the KSG might not bond correctly to a layer of wax.

sir, nag KSG muna ako before ako nag apply ng 476. i used mf applicator for the 476. yun klasse twins na nakuha ko sa autobisyo may foam pad and mf applicator na kasama. which is best for KAIO and KSG? foam pad or mf applicator?

[jmpet626]

Ako mas gusto ko gamitin yung MF applicator ng microtex na block shaped. Mas madali i grip so less chance na mabitawan mo while applying and dahil mas malaki siya sa round foam pad mas mabilis mag spread ng products. Downside niya is mas maraming product ang ma coconsume compare sa foam pad.

[dbhollanda]

*tradewind26: matigas talaga 476. ok lang yan yung pagod mo susuklian yan ng 476 pag umulan. hehe.

*jols: see above. hehe. matigas talaga ilagay at ibuff off ang 476.

the klasse twins will fill in *some* swirls, but not to the same extent as nanoglos.

the swirl marks were probably there in the first place, and since parating nanoglos yung gamit mo dati, sanay ka na filled in parati yung swirls.

btw, yung Microtex NanoSiL... grabe mag fill ng swirls. Check nyo yung thread sa may PD regarding Nanosil. hehe

saan ba nakakabili ng Microtex NanoSil? magkano ang new product na ito? i assume na meron sa ace hardware nito kasi they are also selling other microtex products...

[tradewind26]

Mahirap maghanap ng Microtex Nanosliq. Madalas yung maliit lang nakikita ko. Naghahanap ako nung malaki eh, kaso laging wala.

Naulanan yung car ko kanina. At natuwa ako sa effect ng 476. Sulit na sulit nga..Haha. Pero teka anu ba dapat kong gawin pagtumigil na yung ulan. Hayaan ko lang ba matuyo yung mga waterbeads? Kaso too bad naatrasan ko gate namin.. Ewan ko palagi ganito accident ko. Never pa ako naaaccident sa highway, puro non moving object ang nabubungo ko like poste, gate at etc.. Grrrr kaasar. Saan kaya maganda mag pa repaint at magkano?

[jhnkvn]

I see, might be paint overspray. I believe they waxed the whole car. I guess from a regular customer's point of view, this makes sense and pogi points for them. But even when applying Nanoglos to the repainted door ayaw ko nga eh hintay muna ako ng 2 weeks at best.

As for its feel.. it feels as if naka-foil yun kotse ko (if you managed to touch Foil-a-car's display sa SMX). Really weird.. aesthetics wise naman, wala pinagbago. Done a comparison between a Nanoglos'ed smooth panel and the "oversprayed" panel and they both look identically the same. Yun feel lang talaga iba.. also harder to buff the Nanoglos on the oversprayed panel. The sensation is as if you left the Nanoglos for far too long.. hirap magbuff

[dbhollanda]

Mahirap maghanap ng Microtex Nanosliq. Madalas yung maliit lang nakikita ko. Naghahanap ako nung malaki eh, kaso laging wala.

Naulanan yung car ko kanina. At natuwa ako sa effect ng 476. Sulit na sulit nga..Haha. Pero teka anu ba dapat kong gawin pagtumigil na yung ulan. Hayaan ko lang ba matuyo yung mga waterbeads? Kaso too bad naatrasan ko gate namin.. Ewan ko palagi ganito accident ko. Never pa ako naaaccident sa highway, puro non moving object ang nabubungo ko like poste, gate at etc.. Grrrr kaasar. Saan kaya maganda mag pa repaint at magkano?

dami ko nakikitang microtex nanosliq sa Ace. ok nga ang suggestion dito na mixture ng nanosliq at distilled water. mas madaling i-buff at mas makakamura pa. ang gusto kong i-try e yung new product daw ng microtex yung nanosil or nanoseal ata...di pa ko nagagawi sa ace hardware pero daan ako this week sana meron para ma try ko din.

ok lang maulanan ang vehicle pag naka park. ang mahirap para sa akin is yung inabutan ka ng ulan habang nasa kalye ka dahil siguradong dami didikit na putik sa running board mo. typically pag gantong situation e flooding while very lightly tinatanggal ko ng MF yung mga dumi at putik then dry it up then apply ng QD...

[scharnhorst]

ano ba to parating nawawala yung reply ko.

*jol: personally I prefer the foam applicator for KSG and 476, then the MF applicator for lotion type waxes

*dbhollanda: let's wait for it to hit the shelves sir, it just got released last Saturday

*tradewind26: here's what you can do...
1) if your car got rained on whilst parked, you can take a hose to flood the paint and then pat dry. you can follow with a cleaning QD wipedown if you'd like
2) if your car got rained on whilst it was running, it will help reduce the mud on the sides if you can flood those areas.

*jhnkvn: AFAIK, 3M has a product that's safe for newly painted surfaces... and there was talk in the PD wax thread that OCW was safe too.

para bang may particles sir? matatanggal yan ng clay

[Fotonista]

Ang hirap hindi mag visit sa thread na ito, daming nalalagpasan... lol

Now I need to review the doc sent my sir scharnhorst para malaman talaga kung anu dapat gamitin...

Anu po ang magandang ipartner pala sa Mother's FX Spray Wax? Kasi parang may kulang dito eh, what I usually do is after washing with Microtex Shampoo, spray nung spray wax... It's shiny pero not long lasting, parang may kulang...