How to Make a Silver or White Car Shiny

[jhnkvn]

I just bought Collinite 845. I am thinking of a good cleaner wax.

Now I know kung nasaan ka habang you were on hiatus sa Tsikot

Anyway, cleaning the paint simply prepares the paint for wax/sealant application. Usually, your aim here is to remove any still-alive wax so you can lay another fresh wax over the paint. Think about it much like washing your face to remove makeup. This way, you ensure maximum adhesion and uniformity.

As for cleaner waxes, there's a lot out in the market. Most accessible would probably be Mother's Cleaner Wax / Step 1 (pure cleaner). Meguiar also has an extensive distribution network so it might be easy to access their ColorX and M66. Collinite also has their Sapphire Wax SS#126 which does the same job.

The most famous cleaner/wax (or more specifically, cleaner/sealant) would probably be KAIO or Klasse All-in-One. Its legendary for its ability chemically clean your paint (strips off wax and paint contaminants such as oxidation). Most use it as a base layer and then top it with KSG or Klasse Sealant/Glaze. There are also a few more "best-sellers" but most of them aren't in the country. Such as Duragloss 105/501 and Finish Kare.

You might want to look into purchasing AIO products (polish, clean, protect) products so you could skip the light polishing part instead of cleaner/waxes if budget permits. Polishing is great especially if done quarterly just to remove light swirl marks. I do my polishing more or less around that interval (every 3 months). Personally, a favorite one-step of mine is Optimum's Poli-seal.

Most cleaner wax and AIOs are jack of all trades. So don't expect them to match a famous dedicated cleaner, wax, or polish in terms of performance. But for the ease of use, they win hands-down of course.

If you just want to clean the surface paint and strip all the wax at the minimal cost, some detailers use a diluted isopropyl alcohol mix to remove them. Others who are more resourceful uses dishwashing liquid... like JOY :naughty2:. For more seasoned detailers though, we kinda stick to using detailing cleaners instead. It's more safe and well.. we love our cars. Har har..

P.S. Well, since I was too lazy to post in PD.com, I might as well reply here:

Zymol has good reviews but at a hefty price. In most cases, I can't justify its performance with its price. There's really just two of them gunning for the exotic expensive crowd.. Zymol and Swissvax. Underneath them would the likes of Pinnacle and Dodo Juice.

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Personally, I use KAIO as my favorite cleaner which I usually top of with my wax/sealant/LSP of choice. It's usually topped using KSG, but I'm currently using Dodo Juice's Supernatural Hybrid. I also topped it with Collinite in the past though. Alternatively, I've also used Collinite's cleaner SS #126 and #845 before with arguably less results on a white car (like I said, KAIO is legendary.. it strips off libag easily)

[_Cathy_]

Is this what you recommend? How do I apply this?

I don't see my adviser on detailing at PD or Tsikot around anymore. Sorry for the newbie bordering stupid questions

[jhnkvn]

Is this what you recommend? How do I apply this?

I don't see my adviser on detailing at PD or Tsikot around anymore. Sorry for the newbie bordering stupid questions

Yep. That's the Klasse AIO. Previous distributor was Dexterton in Sgt. Rivera near Banawe (Araneta Avenue) if memory serves right.

As for application, it's just to put in on the applicator pad, spread it to the panel, buff off. As for the tricks behind it, well... isa lang actually. Apply very lightly. if you see it, you're applying a bit too much so spread it even more until you have difficulty seeing it. Then buff it off after a minute or so. For a fickle detailer, that "jar" of KAIO will last you more than 4 years generally although most of you will exceed that.

A peso-sized drop should cover your entire Altis hood. That's how economical it is. Don't worry about the how effective its cleaning is, because it's all chemical so don't buff it off like a madman. Usual buffing techniques are good. It's also great to do a side-by-side comparison between a non-cleaned panel and cleaned panel para maganahan ka.

If you have a machine, you can use that too. But I typically like hand application for KAIO and KSG.

[allenjo]

.....But I typically like hand application for KAIO and KSG.

Props to hand application...im a fan of it myself. The rotary only gets brought out under extreme conditions. But if i had a choice...hand application pa rin.

[JohnM]

Personally, a favorite one-step of mine is Optimum's Poli-seal.

Bad trip lang sa Poliseal naghihiwalay ang solid and liquid. Had to craft a whisk from alambre then halo using electric drill.

Kung makapal din ang application (as with most products) sakit sa balikat tanggalin. The Microtex wax applicator is best for hand application.

Pero tanggal libag

OT: umi ginagamit mo pa Sil mo? Baka pwede mo na ipamana

[umi001]

Bad trip lang sa Poliseal naghihiwalay ang solid and liquid. Had to craft a whisk from alambre then halo using electric drill.

Kung makapal din ang application (as with most products) sakit sa balikat tanggalin. The Microtex wax applicator is best for hand application.

Pero tanggal libag

OT: umi ginagamit mo pa Sil mo? Baka pwede mo na ipamana

Hmmmm... actually not too much anymore, hehe :D I'm thinking of selling off some items actually...

[monty_GTV]

+1 to sir jhnkvn. my vote also goes to KAIO.

i bought the KAIO/KSG twins 10oz container together 2yrs ago. the KAIO now is almost empty, the KSG is barely 1/4 empty and seldom used. i got other sealants like menz powerlock and blackfire wd.

[nincompoop!!]

Hmmmm... actually not too much anymore, hehe :D I'm thinking of selling off some items actually...

Boss, baka may extra KAIO + KSG ka jan.

Thanks!

[umi001]

I just bought Collinite 845. I am thinking of a good cleaner wax.

Jhnkvn pretty much covered it. As he mentioned, particularly if you're not planning on doing a full exterior detailing session, it's worth considering an AIO with some cut, to help round and minimize the appearance of minor swirls and scratches. Alternatively, it might also be worth considering going with a dedicated paint cleaner instead - something like Meguiar's or Mother's Step 1, or even Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, would serve to prep the paint prior to applying 845.

[_Cathy_]

Jhnkvn pretty much covered it. As he mentioned, particularly if you're not planning on doing a full exterior detailing session, it's worth considering an AIO with some cut, to help round and minimize the appearance of minor swirls and scratches. Alternatively, it might also be worth considering going with a dedicated paint cleaner instead - something like Meguiar's or Mother's Step 1, or even Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, would serve to prep the paint prior to applying 845.

What's the difference between the Klasse AIO and dedicated paint cleaners like Mother's Step 1, or even Meguiar's Ultimate Polish?

Klasse AIO - 10 oz sells for $6.90 while Meguiar's Ultimate Polish - 16 oz is $6.97. But Meguiar's is more popular (good reviews) and cheaper too.

so now I don't know if I should get Klasse or Meguair's.

[uls]

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[_Cathy_]

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we do you nails while we do your car

Detailing can become addictive so I have no plans of getting hardcore. It's too expensive for a hobby. There's so much products!!!

But it's the perfect hobby for OC people ata hehe

[jhnkvn]

What's the difference between the Klasse AIO and dedicated paint cleaners like Mother's Step 1, or even Meguiar's Ultimate Polish?

Klasse AIO - 10 oz sells for $6.90 while Meguiar's Ultimate Polish - 16 oz is $6.97. But Meguiar's is more popular (good reviews) and cheaper too.

so now I don't know if I should get Klasse or Meguair's.

There's two ways on how to "clean" a panel. One is to chemically clean it and the other uses abrasion to cut down the contaminants. Klasse's AIO uses the former while Mother's Step 1 and Meguiar's Ultimate Polish uses the latter.

The detailing world has many nitty gritties. For example, KAIO is advertised as an "all-in-one", however its polishing action isn't that regarded. It uses the chemical "cleaning" of the paint to reduce the appearance of surface scratches while protection from sealant doesn't last long that's why it's usually topped up with Klasse's Sealant and Glaze (KSG). But since it does all three "technically", you can advertise it as an AIO. For most, we simply regard it as a damn-good paint cleaner

Mother's Step 1 is a polish. However, its polishing action is so "light" that many people regard it as a dedicated cleaner instead. It won't correct your swirls as effective as a polisher with more "cut", but at least it'll prep your paint.

Meguiar's Ultimate Polish borders on "medium" and "light". If that's the deal between the two, I'm afraid I'll go for Meguiar's in that case... unless you need a dedicated cleaner and not a polish. BUT as you're going for hand applications, vote is still on KAIO.

[_Cathy_]

Thanks mga boss!!! How do I apply KAIO? Applicator pad din? I have the Microtex applicator pad but I am thinking of getting the Meguair's round soft foam applicator pad but is that washable and durable like the Microtex? Geez pati sa applicator pad I am gonna go crazy from the variety

And what do I need to use to buff it off? Ultra Plush?

So this will be my step - wash - kaio - 845.

Do I still apply nanosliq?







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[monty_GTV]

Thanks mga boss!!! How do I apply KAIO? Applicator pad din? I have the Microtex applicator pad but I am thinking of getting the Meguair's round soft foam applicator pad but is that washable and durable like the Microtex? Geez pati sa applicator pad I am gonna go crazy from the variety

And what do I need to use to buff it off? Ultra Plush?

So this will be my step - wash - kaio - 845.

Do I still apply nanosliq?







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"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

the "cheapo" yellow applicator pads will do, or the orange mf applicator pads. you can buff it with ultra plush or any mf towels soft enough that does not induce swirls.

why not add KSG in your regimen for added protection before topping it with wax. say, wash > kaio > ksg > 845. btw, ksg has a curing time of at least 8 hrs, meaning after buffing, allow it to bond with the paint then after 8 hrs that's the time you apply your wax.

have fun detailing!

[_Cathy_]

the "cheapo" yellow applicator pads will do, or the orange mf applicator pads. you can buff it with ultra plush or any mf towels soft enough that does not induce swirls.

why not add KSG in your regimen for added protection before topping it with wax. say, wash > kaio > ksg > 845. btw, ksg has a curing time of at least 8 hrs, meaning after buffing, allow it to bond with the paint then after 8 hrs that's the time you apply your wax.

have fun detailing!

I just bought the Klasse All in One

What's stopping me from getting the KSG in thew curing time. I wouldn't want my waxing regimen to eat up my entire weekend kasi

[monty_GTV]

I just bought the Klasse All in One

What's stopping me from getting the KSG in thew curing time. I wouldn't want my waxing regimen to eat up my entire weekend kasi

no madame it should not consume much of your time, least your entire weekend . you can apply the sealant in the afternoon and then apply the wax in the following morning. or apply the wax after your next mild wash, the sealant bonded even better that time. sometimes nakakalimutan ko na rin lagyan ng wax but it's okay, both are last step products and all they do is give protection to the paint. medyo tamang OC na kasi minsan kasi mga reviews na nababasa they talked about how many layer of sealants they applied then further topped with wax pa in fact, imo isang layer ng wax o sealant enough na.

[_Cathy_]

no madame it should not consume much of your time, least your entire weekend . you can apply the sealant in the afternoon and then apply the wax in the following morning. or apply the wax after your next mild wash, the sealant bonded even better that time. sometimes nakakalimutan ko na rin lagyan ng wax but it's okay, both are last step products and all they do is give protection to the paint. medyo tamang OC na kasi minsan kasi mga reviews na nababasa they talked about how many layer of sealants they applied then further topped with wax pa in fact, imo isang layer ng wax o sealant enough na.

Oh when I wax my car kasi I don't want any distractions kasi kasama na din interior so I really dedicate one whole day for my car when I wax it. Pero that will be my maximum time spent with my car na

[_Cathy_]

why not add KSG in your regimen for added protection before topping it with wax. say, wash > kaio > ksg > 845. btw, ksg has a curing time of at least 8 hrs, meaning after buffing, allow it to bond with the paint then after 8 hrs that's the time you apply your wax.

I'm looking for a wax that I could alternate with Collinite 845. I'm interested in CG's Butter Wet Wax. I also came across CG's Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer

Detailing gurus, help naman!

Tama ba regimen?

wash > kaio > ksg > CG's Butter Wet Wax > CG's Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer

I am not exactly sure whether Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer is a sealant glaze? or it's a different product meant to be the last step.

What is the use of QD's pala? Do I really need to apply it after waxing (eg collinite 845). Doesn't the wax offer enough protection? I want to skip this step because I don't see much difference from it. And besides the CG waxes are expensive na. haha.

I browsed Pinnacle and Dodo Juice but I find these waxes way too expensive. I refuse to spend over $40 for wax Does carnauba really give more shine? Isn't there a cheaper carnauba wax somewhere?

[red_one]

*Cathy: i keep these 3 products in the car all the time:

1. Microtex Ultimate Car Duster (with Wax) = for removing overnight dust, won't scratch paint.
2. Quick Detailer = for removing dust, dirt, bird bombs, bugs, etc. extends life of sealant/wax. use as often as you like.
3. Quick Spray Wax = use after every car wash.