How to Make a Silver or White Car Shiny

[timykoo]

You can change waxes from Nanoglos/Nanosliq to Collinite. Remember that a wax or sealant's primary duty is to protect the paint. I'm thinking of an appropriate analogy but my brain isn't functioning well 3:48 in the morning



Jerome of Autobisyo (near Southwoods) is the distributor of Collinite products locally. You can easily acquire one just by searching Collinite in sulit.. the wsc211 seller there is Will of Bluemile and Big Berts does not sell them (if memory serves right)



Yes. Collinite #845 is pure liquid wax and does not have any cleaners on it. Collinite #840 is their dedicated cleaner while their #SS126 is their cleaner-wax (AIO).



It's much easier to "feel" your paint if you insert your hand in a plastic bag then glide it over the paint. This way, your touch mechanism is more sensitive to the imperfections and is a more accurate representation of it ;)

Also remember to feel the hood rather than the lower side panels of the car. Why? Well, your lower body panels are susceptible to asphalt. I usually clay bi-annually but asphalt removal.. hell... I do it almost every month thanks to rampant post-election road renovations

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For most people, here's what I recommend:

1) Haven't been to a detailer yet? Car's more than 1 year old?
- Clay. Step 2/3 detail. Then maintain the wax on your own to save up on costs.

2) Car's fresh out of the CASA?
- Step 1 detail then DIY maintain or if not, just wax it.

3) Car's heavily abused, always under the sun, haven't been detailed?
- Hoping that the paint's still "alive", Clay, Step 3 and a roof please.

If anybody wants to ask me, here's my regimen: A yearly Step 3 compounding detailing session, a thrice-yearly Step 2 polishing session, an a bi-annual claying session. Wax? Well.. usually 90 days after the detailing sessions. When to wash the car? Only when I can't stand how dirty it is. Asphalt removal? Almost twice-a-week thanks to stupid Quezon Ave. renovations.

Once you buy the products and start paying for labor (well, I am lazy most of the time), costs per year significantly goes down thanks to your "investment".

What cleaner is good for prep? Okay na ba ang cleaner wax ng mothers?

[jhnkvn]

Trust me, lahat naman okay. Ask any detailer what's "good" and, most cases than not, they'll give you answers that aren't really objective but rather what they feel is good and what they prefer to use.

Mother's Cleaner wax is great. Although personally, I use KAIO for as my overall dedicated cleaner. Although for one-step AIO products, I like Collinite's SS126, Optimum's Poli-seal, and Meguiar's ColorX.

I don't know why but Mothers never really grew on me. Meguiars' did. But Mothers.. not too much. They're great products for the price though and quite accessible to purchase too!

[timykoo]

Trust me, lahat naman okay. Ask any detailer what's "good" and, most cases than not, they'll give you answers that aren't really objective but rather what they feel is good and what they prefer to use.

Mother's Cleaner wax is great. Although personally, I use KAIO for as my overall dedicated cleaner. Although for one-step AIO products, I like Collinite's SS126, Optimum's Poli-seal, and Meguiar's ColorX.

I don't know why but Mothers never really grew on me. Meguiars' did. But Mothers.. not too much. They're great products for the price though and quite accessible to purchase too!

Baka pambabae kasi mothers? Haha! Ang mahirap kasi sa KAIO. i dont know where to purchase them and i dont have any orbitals/polisher.hand application lang ako. Hehe

[jhnkvn]

Baka pambabae kasi mothers? Haha! Ang mahirap kasi sa KAIO. i dont know where to purchase them and i dont have any orbitals/polisher.hand application lang ako. Hehe

KAIO works with hand application naman eh :D

[gearguru]

KAIO works with hand application naman eh :D

Was surprised there was no mention of Nanosil. I believe this serves as a polish of some sort. Cheap and widely available so I suggest you try it.

If your paint is in good condition and you just need to maintain it, suggest to just invest on the below...

Car Shampoo
- either Microtex Wash or Wash and Wax
- ONR (Optimum No Rinse)...quite pricey compared to Microtex but it's a rinseless wash...ever since getting one, I never used my Microtex Wash and Wax again

Mother's Clay Bar System
- to remove those tiny spots/ imperfections...you should be able to feel these when you run your hand on your car panels
- correct me if i'm wrong, but you usually just clay the horizontal portions of your car (hood, roof and trunk)
- it sounds difficult and overwhelming but just say to hell with it and start doing it...it's easy and fun

Nanosil (until you get an AIO)
- next step after claying
- very easy to apply and buff off even by hand...it's not the best polish out there but for starters, you can immediately see its effect
- i just don't like the smell

Collinite 845 or OCW (Optimum Car Wax)
- both are good liquid waxes...but if you're after durability and ease of application, go with OCW
- OCW is so easy to apply, smells great and is considered one of the most durable spray waxes in the market...it's such a joy to use I got myself a gallon ;)

Just start with this. When the results don't satisfy you anymore, then go buy some more stuff. Check out Autogeekonline Auto Detailing Forum ...you'd learn a lot about detailing as well. BUT be warned...you'll be spending on things you had no clue you'd spend on...

[timykoo]

KAIO works with hand application naman eh :D

No extra elbow grease required? Baka after ko mag KAIO manhid ma braso ko sir. Haha.

[timykoo]

Tama boss. One thing with microtex products that i dont like is the smell. I believe nanosil was not included because it works best with polisher? E considering that the owner is a lady, baka mahirap masyado kapag by hand lang ang application ng nanosil.

[gearguru]

Tama boss. One thing with microtex products that i dont like is the smell. I believe nanosil was not included because it works best with polisher? E considering that the owner is a lady, baka mahirap masyado kapag by hand lang ang application ng nanosil.

One get optimum results with a polisher but applying it by hand is still workable. And it's not that hard to buff off

[greatauror28]

It is more tedious to make your silver car so shiny if you don't have buffing tools like a polisher.
It is very doable but set aside time, say whole weekend morning.

This is what I did to my car after winter: Car Wash>Claying>Polishing>Waxing

Products are: Meguiar's Gold Shampoo, Mother's Clay Bar System, Meguair's Ultimate Polish and Meguiar's Gold Class carnauba wax.

I used an 8" buffer with white pad and this is the result:

[jhnkvn]

The difference between machine and hand application on the Nanosil isn't what we call negligible. Using a machine is a huge jump in the swirl-filling quality.

Nanosil works as a cleaner and a glaze. It isn't a polisher.. it's simply a supercharged glaze wherein it conceals swirl marks and light scratches by "filling" them up. And thanks to its filling action, if you're doing it by hand, you'll be applying more elbow grease than usual to break up the fillers. Definitely not recommended to a lady.

For most people, I would still recommend a polish or a compound (depending on how heavy the scratches are) because they level the paint to completely remove scratches rather than concealing them as compared to Nanosil.

Technically, Nanosil IS an all-in-one (AIO). It cleans and it protects. Durability will be around a week or so I believe in our rainy conditions.

Actually, the reason why I didn't go for OCW is because... 845 wins hands-down. There's actually a trick behind it. The price difference is justified once you factor in the jump in durability the #845 offers you (a month versus a week for the OCW). The trick is to move the #845 into a spray bottle. Problem is, you need to make sure it's in liquid form and not in its more paste-y form.

To do this, simply heat up the #845 by placing it under hot water or just let it bake in the sun for a couple of minutes. You then transfer it into a spray bottle then spray panel 1 -> spray panel 2 -> buff panel 1 -> spray panel 3 -> buff panel 2 -> and so on. However, the downside to this is that #845 MAY jam the sprayer so better clean it well afterwards. And if you're going to be using it again, better let it bake outside on the sun while you go prep your stuff

So yes, for an additional hundred pesos (and a sprayer), I'll have an awesome spray wax that will last me longer than OCW. Of course, OCW is still technically easier to apply since you don't need to buff it (spray -> spread using MF towel) but over the long run, #845 still trumps it in bang-per-buck ;)

[_Cathy_]

I just bought Collinite 845. I am thinking of a good cleaner wax.

[jhnkvn]

I just bought Collinite 845. I am thinking of a good cleaner wax.

Now I know kung nasaan ka habang you were on hiatus sa Tsikot

Anyway, cleaning the paint simply prepares the paint for wax/sealant application. Usually, your aim here is to remove any still-alive wax so you can lay another fresh wax over the paint. Think about it much like washing your face to remove makeup. This way, you ensure maximum adhesion and uniformity.

As for cleaner waxes, there's a lot out in the market. Most accessible would probably be Mother's Cleaner Wax / Step 1 (pure cleaner). Meguiar also has an extensive distribution network so it might be easy to access their ColorX and M66. Collinite also has their Sapphire Wax SS#126 which does the same job.

The most famous cleaner/wax (or more specifically, cleaner/sealant) would probably be KAIO or Klasse All-in-One. Its legendary for its ability chemically clean your paint (strips off wax and paint contaminants such as oxidation). Most use it as a base layer and then top it with KSG or Klasse Sealant/Glaze. There are also a few more "best-sellers" but most of them aren't in the country. Such as Duragloss 105/501 and Finish Kare.

You might want to look into purchasing AIO products (polish, clean, protect) products so you could skip the light polishing part instead of cleaner/waxes if budget permits. Polishing is great especially if done quarterly just to remove light swirl marks. I do my polishing more or less around that interval (every 3 months). Personally, a favorite one-step of mine is Optimum's Poli-seal.

Most cleaner wax and AIOs are jack of all trades. So don't expect them to match a famous dedicated cleaner, wax, or polish in terms of performance. But for the ease of use, they win hands-down of course.

If you just want to clean the surface paint and strip all the wax at the minimal cost, some detailers use a diluted isopropyl alcohol mix to remove them. Others who are more resourceful uses dishwashing liquid... like JOY :naughty2:. For more seasoned detailers though, we kinda stick to using detailing cleaners instead. It's more safe and well.. we love our cars. Har har..

P.S. Well, since I was too lazy to post in PD.com, I might as well reply here:

Zymol has good reviews but at a hefty price. In most cases, I can't justify its performance with its price. There's really just two of them gunning for the exotic expensive crowd.. Zymol and Swissvax. Underneath them would the likes of Pinnacle and Dodo Juice.

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Personally, I use KAIO as my favorite cleaner which I usually top of with my wax/sealant/LSP of choice. It's usually topped using KSG, but I'm currently using Dodo Juice's Supernatural Hybrid. I also topped it with Collinite in the past though. Alternatively, I've also used Collinite's cleaner SS #126 and #845 before with arguably less results on a white car (like I said, KAIO is legendary.. it strips off libag easily)

[_Cathy_]

Is this what you recommend? How do I apply this?

I don't see my adviser on detailing at PD or Tsikot around anymore. Sorry for the newbie bordering stupid questions

[jhnkvn]

Is this what you recommend? How do I apply this?

I don't see my adviser on detailing at PD or Tsikot around anymore. Sorry for the newbie bordering stupid questions

Yep. That's the Klasse AIO. Previous distributor was Dexterton in Sgt. Rivera near Banawe (Araneta Avenue) if memory serves right.

As for application, it's just to put in on the applicator pad, spread it to the panel, buff off. As for the tricks behind it, well... isa lang actually. Apply very lightly. if you see it, you're applying a bit too much so spread it even more until you have difficulty seeing it. Then buff it off after a minute or so. For a fickle detailer, that "jar" of KAIO will last you more than 4 years generally although most of you will exceed that.

A peso-sized drop should cover your entire Altis hood. That's how economical it is. Don't worry about the how effective its cleaning is, because it's all chemical so don't buff it off like a madman. Usual buffing techniques are good. It's also great to do a side-by-side comparison between a non-cleaned panel and cleaned panel para maganahan ka.

If you have a machine, you can use that too. But I typically like hand application for KAIO and KSG.

[umi001]

I just bought Collinite 845. I am thinking of a good cleaner wax.

Jhnkvn pretty much covered it. As he mentioned, particularly if you're not planning on doing a full exterior detailing session, it's worth considering an AIO with some cut, to help round and minimize the appearance of minor swirls and scratches. Alternatively, it might also be worth considering going with a dedicated paint cleaner instead - something like Meguiar's or Mother's Step 1, or even Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, would serve to prep the paint prior to applying 845.

[JohnM]

Personally, a favorite one-step of mine is Optimum's Poli-seal.

Bad trip lang sa Poliseal naghihiwalay ang solid and liquid. Had to craft a whisk from alambre then halo using electric drill.

Kung makapal din ang application (as with most products) sakit sa balikat tanggalin. The Microtex wax applicator is best for hand application.

Pero tanggal libag

OT: umi ginagamit mo pa Sil mo? Baka pwede mo na ipamana

[allenjo]

.....But I typically like hand application for KAIO and KSG.

Props to hand application...im a fan of it myself. The rotary only gets brought out under extreme conditions. But if i had a choice...hand application pa rin.

[umi001]

Bad trip lang sa Poliseal naghihiwalay ang solid and liquid. Had to craft a whisk from alambre then halo using electric drill.

Kung makapal din ang application (as with most products) sakit sa balikat tanggalin. The Microtex wax applicator is best for hand application.

Pero tanggal libag

OT: umi ginagamit mo pa Sil mo? Baka pwede mo na ipamana

Hmmmm... actually not too much anymore, hehe :D I'm thinking of selling off some items actually...

[jhnkvn]

Props to hand application...im a fan of it myself. The rotary only gets brought out under extreme conditions. But if i had a choice...hand application pa rin.

Ako hand application kasi walang machine

*umi
Discounted ha :naughty2: nagaabang na ako if ever ng price list

[_Cathy_]

May risk masira paint kapag hindi marunong gumamit ng machine diba?

Saan ba yung Hillsborough detailers sa Magallanes? Hindi ko napapansin. I am seriously thinking of having my car clayed there, Tapos maintain na lang ng KAIO and 845