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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm looking for a wax that I could alternate with Collinite 845. I'm interested in CG's Butter Wet Wax. I also came across CG's Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer

    Detailing gurus, help naman!

    Tama ba regimen?

    wash > kaio > ksg > CG's Butter Wet Wax > CG's Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer

    I am not exactly sure whether Black Light Hybrid Radiant Finish Color Enhancer is a sealant glaze? or it's a different product meant to be the last step.

    What is the use of QD's pala? Do I really need to apply it after waxing (eg collinite 845). Doesn't the wax offer enough protection? I want to skip this step because I don't see much difference from it. And besides the CG waxes are expensive na. haha.

    I browsed Pinnacle and Dodo Juice but I find these waxes way too expensive. I refuse to spend over $40 for wax Does carnauba really give more shine? Isn't there a cheaper carnauba wax somewhere?
    hi cathy, the cg blacklight is being marketed as a gloss enhancing sealant so its a sealant. and as the detailing gurus advised, sealant first before wax. btw, the blacklight can alse be an AIO (cleaner, polish, sealant) so you can save time to your regimen...wash > cg blacklight > butter wet wax.

    if you decide in getting the blacklight, you might as well get the V7 hybrid as they work in conjunction daw sabi ni cg. I have both of them and tried them last year along with blackfire wd and poorboy glaze. ok naman ang outcome, super kintab but I like more the fruity smells



    QD's as the name implies is for quick fix just like when you only have fine dust and pupunasan mo lang, a spray of QD's can do the trick. you can also use it in between washes and your waxing intervals. say tinatamad ka pa mag-wax and you think ok pa naman ang beading nung 845 mo so you can substitute the QD in between.

    c'mon cath, stretch some more your budget for a boutique wax there are carnauba waxes naman within your budget with good reviews like 915, p21s concours, natty's paste wax.

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    monty_GTV, do you recommend that I get the black light instead of the KSG?

    I have the KAIO but I am deciding between black light and KSG as my sealant. Black light is double the price of KSG kasi. I have decided on getting the butter wax to alternate with my collinite 845. I don't wanna spend on boutique waxes! Hindi ako kasing yaman niyo ni jhnkvn

    *BTW what do you use as a buffing towel? I saw a buffing towel with great reviews on Amazon but it is so expensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    Thanks mga boss!!! How do I apply KAIO? Applicator pad din? I have the Microtex applicator pad but I am thinking of getting the Meguair's round soft foam applicator pad but is that washable and durable like the Microtex? Geez pati sa applicator pad I am gonna go crazy from the variety

    And what do I need to use to buff it off? Ultra Plush?

    So this will be my step - wash - kaio - 845.

    Do I still apply nanosliq?
    Hahaha, the excitement's understandable. Even I went through that stage... until tatamarin ka tignan mo kami ni umi.. motto namin is only to clean the car when it's really dirty na di na namin matiis. Although sa mga EB, mapatakan lang ng tubig Yaris ni master umi naglalabas na agad yan ng QD :naughty2: (I got photos! bwahaha!)

    As for applicator pads, use anything. I mean.. I use the generic yellow ones btw. Just make sure to "soften" them up before using by having them absorb some moisture.

    Wash - KAIO - 845 is good na. Just apply Nanosliq much like applying Vitress -- "kung gusto mo ng extra shine". (I swear.. so many perks of living with female siblings.. ang galing ko sa mga comparisons even though I'm straight bwahaha)

    As a personal experience, I hate curing times especially overnight curing durations. Usually makakalimutan ko yan the following day.. even if I did remember, I'll be all "hassle naman magwash uli ng kotse.." but if I didn't wash it, I'll be OC naman masyado "shet, why am I applying wax eh may minute dirt layer yun paint".

    For more shine, you might want to add a glaze for the wet look it gives. If you wanna give the NanoFil a try, slot it between the KAIO and 845.

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    Anybody have already tried this with their white cars?


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    Quote Originally Posted by greatauror28 View Post
    Anybody have already tried this with their white cars?

    Reports say that it's a cleaner wax (dapat lang for white cars). Where as the white ones have better cleaning ability and the black has more polishing oils to darken the paint depth.

    How much ba siya? Not much of a fan of Meguiars thanks to their pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Reports say that it's a cleaner wax (dapat lang for white cars). Where as the white ones have better cleaning ability and the black has more polishing oils to darken the paint depth.

    How much ba siya? Not much of a fan of Meguiars thanks to their pricing.


    this all Marketing.....Will fall to the wayside just like Meguiar's old "Color-Match" waxes

    how do you suppose wax for Whites or Reds or Blacks could actually improve the color???.
    If your car (all newer cars anyway) are basecoat/ cleacoat, then a color specific "wax" is redundant.
    there is NO way it would "improve" the color that lies under that layer of Clearcoat. Just my $0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Wash - KAIO - 845 is good na. .
    my same regimen, only I use Collinite 476s Paste or P21S. Even better after several coats of KSG....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Same sentiments.
    Although I have my own fair share of boutique waxes (as with Sir Umi, Dodo Juice has also won me over), I also highly regard Meguiar's products. Domestically, the mark-up's still huge to justify international shipping, but they're still my go-to brand for compounds and polishes. My go-to polish is their M83 which is in the middle of the abrasion chart. More aggressive than SwirlX, but less abrasive than most compounds. For less serious swirls, there's M82.

    As for Mothers, I'm less of an avid fan. Showtime and their Stage 3 wax is probably what I use the most.

    I also don't frown upon Autoglym's HD Wax especially that it's widely distributed. As long as I'm not going to remove it from the paint which is a total pain in the ass, I'll go for it.

    Because I tend to collect my waxes, I've long since stopped any additional purchasing. At the end, Collinite 845, KAIO - KSG, and Dodo's SNH is what's left in my shelf. More of a fan of durability over "looks" thanks to my white paint.
    Sir di po ba same lang durability ang dodo's snh an collinite 476??

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    Quote Originally Posted by roelrpt View Post
    Sir di po ba same lang durability ang dodo's snh an collinite 476??
    Durability-wise, yes. They last roughly the same.

    SNH is special for me. It's not really the durability alone but more of the feeling of using a boutique wax. It's like eating a Ferrero Rocher over M&Ms.. if I were after durability alone, hell.. I won't touch Collinite. Mahal yan.. I'll probably be using Turtle Wax Hard Shell or something for the cheapness

    Besides, SNH's beading is the bomb! Incredible beading.



    Picture taken from my old iPhone 3GS.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; August 23rd, 2013 at 05:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Durability-wise, yes. They last roughly the same.

    SNH is special for me. It's not really the durability alone but more of the feeling of using a boutique wax. It's like eating a Ferrero Rocher over M&Ms.. if I were after durability alone, hell.. I won't touch Collinite. Mahal yan.. I'll probably be using Turtle Wax Hard Shell or something for the cheapness

    Besides, SNH's beading is the bomb! Incredible beading.



    Picture taken from my old iPhone 3GS.
    bro dodo juice super natural hybrid selant ba yan? o dodo supernatural wax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vijay Sohal View Post
    bro dodo juice super natural hybrid selant ba yan? o dodo supernatural wax?
    It's the Supernatural Hybrid Sealant. I prefer the Hybrid over the more-expensive Supernatural. It's not like I'm a die-hard fan of natural ingredients. I'll take longevity over better looks anytime

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    Posted before:

    Newly layered SNH as LSP on a quarterly detailing regimen (polishing session).



    Take note that the car is dirty which reduces beading capability thanks to the layer of dirt on the surface. Even with it, it's still beading handsomely doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Durability-wise, yes. They last roughly the same.

    SNH is special for me. It's not really the durability alone but more of the feeling of using a boutique wax. It's like eating a Ferrero Rocher over M&Ms.. if I were after durability alone, hell.. I won't touch Collinite. Mahal yan.. I'll probably be using Turtle Wax Hard Shell or something for the cheapness

    Besides, SNH's beading is the bomb! Incredible beading.



    Picture taken from my old iPhone 3GS.
    Amf, beading ba yan? Parang pinagpapawisan auto mo sir. Hahahahhaha.. Ganda naman.
    Last edited by roelrpt; August 23rd, 2013 at 10:11 PM. Reason: Spelling

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    Where do you buy those products? That is hardcore na but WOW on the beading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    Where do you buy those products? That is hardcore na but WOW on the beading

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    Waxnerd distributes them in very limited quantities (https://www.facebook.com/dodojuicemanila).

    I last SMS'ed them in April and they don't have ready stocks of Supernatural Hybrid (Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant, hybrid wax, car wax, paste wax, wax sealant). They had Dodo Juice's White Diamond at that time though (Dodo Juice Diamond White Carnuaba Car Wax) on a less-expensive price. Their Supernatural line is their TOTL wax series, you see and yes.. they're hefty on the wallet. It's not something I would recommend to newbie detailers unless their wallet's loaded.

    So far, their durability's waning on my car. So that's 5 weeks na on my car which is now parked outside daily thanks to our roof renovation which means my car was thrown outside in favor of rockwool insulation cozing up to my sheltered area. I'd say durability on the hood and the trunk is at 15% nalang. The sides's at 30-40% pa siguro. On a no top-up spray program and our weather, I'm more or less satisfied naman sa durability. Still, I'm still annoyed sa weather.. dapat nag845 nalang ako kung ganito. I don't like the daily rain

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Waxnerd distributes them in very limited quantities (https://www.facebook.com/dodojuicemanila).

    I last SMS'ed them in April and they don't have ready stocks of Supernatural Hybrid (Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant, hybrid wax, car wax, paste wax, wax sealant). They had Dodo Juice's White Diamond at that time though (Dodo Juice Diamond White Carnuaba Car Wax) on a less-expensive price. Their Supernatural line is their TOTL wax series, you see and yes.. they're hefty on the wallet. It's not something I would recommend to newbie detailers unless their wallet's loaded.

    So far, their durability's waning on my car. So that's 5 weeks na on my car which is now parked outside daily thanks to our roof renovation which means my car was thrown outside in favor of rockwool insulation cozing up to my sheltered area. I'd say durability on the hood and the trunk is at 15% nalang. The sides's at 30-40% pa siguro. On a no top-up spray program and our weather, I'm more or less satisfied naman sa durability. Still, I'm still annoyed sa weather.. dapat nag845 nalang ako kung ganito. I don't like the daily rain
    Hehe, the cars have been getting all sorts of products thrown at them lately - I've not had the opportunity to do a full strip and LSP, so I just play with whatever panel I'm washing at the time. The company car has DP Poli-Coat, but the roof and trunk had a layer of Poxy applied on top last night. My Yaris's hood has Blackfire Crystal Seal, then I decided to top that with some Lusso Oro paste wax about two weeks ago, and yesterday I wiped it down with some Pinnacle Spray Wax. The roof has Opti-Seal, then was topped about a week ago with Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax; the rear-quarter panels have Dodo Juice Rubbish Boy's Juiced Edition, topped with XMT360 spray wax. The hatch is RBJE, topped with XMT360 spray wax a few weeks back; then yesterday I did an Optimum Instant Detailer wipe-down on one half, and CG V7 on the other half, just to test how they worked :D Just want to try out the various products I have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by umi001 View Post
    Hehe, the cars have been getting all sorts of products thrown at them lately - I've not had the opportunity to do a full strip and LSP, so I just play with whatever panel I'm washing at the time. The company car has DP Poli-Coat, but the roof and trunk had a layer of Poxy applied on top last night. My Yaris's hood has Blackfire Crystal Seal, then I decided to top that with some Lusso Oro paste wax about two weeks ago, and yesterday I wiped it down with some Pinnacle Spray Wax. The roof has Opti-Seal, then was topped about a week ago with Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax; the rear-quarter panels have Dodo Juice Rubbish Boy's Juiced Edition, topped with XMT360 spray wax. The hatch is RBJE, topped with XMT360 spray wax a few weeks back; then yesterday I did an Optimum Instant Detailer wipe-down on one half, and CG V7 on the other half, just to test how they worked :D Just want to try out the various products I have...
    nice sir umi, talagang pinagsabay-sabay mo na sa different panels maganda yan para magamit mo lahat yung detailing products mo.

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    Excited to use this


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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Waxnerd distributes them in very limited quantities (https://www.facebook.com/dodojuicemanila).

    I last SMS'ed them in April and they don't have ready stocks of Supernatural Hybrid (Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant, hybrid wax, car wax, paste wax, wax sealant). They had Dodo Juice's White Diamond at that time though (Dodo Juice Diamond White Carnuaba Car Wax) on a less-expensive price. Their Supernatural line is their TOTL wax series, you see and yes.. they're hefty on the wallet. It's not something I would recommend to newbie detailers unless their wallet's loaded.

    So far, their durability's waning on my car. So that's 5 weeks na on my car which is now parked outside daily thanks to our roof renovation which means my car was thrown outside in favor of rockwool insulation cozing up to my sheltered area. I'd say durability on the hood and the trunk is at 15% nalang. The sides's at 30-40% pa siguro. On a no top-up spray program and our weather, I'm more or less satisfied naman sa durability. Still, I'm still annoyed sa weather.. dapat nag845 nalang ako kung ganito. I don't like the daily rain
    Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant 100 Ml sells for about USD50 at Amazon. I would assume this costs around P4k na here in Manila? That is VERY expensive wax. But really, WOW on the beading.

    I am thinking of buying Zymol Z503A Cleaner Wax but I have not even received my Collinite 845 yet

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    It's okay sir but as per previous tests, the 845 holds up longer compared to the NXT. I can't say personally if wax layering is really advisable and produces better results but i did layer my ksg before finishing off with 845. KAIO is not a cleaner wax sir, but you can use it to ensure that the paint surface is clean before starting anything. Brand new car, have it paint sealed and should be good.

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