Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[ennzo]

mam kitkat and all,

just want to seek advice if tama gagawin ko and if meron kayo suggestion...thanks

1. car shampoo
2. meguiars UQD
3. meguiars UQW
4. meguiars TECH WAX 2.0

tama po ba sequence ko or mas maganda after putting the wax lagi ko punasan pa ng UQD?

gaano po katagal and interval nung paglagay ko ng UQW para malagayan ko ng TECH WAX 2.0?

[Nik]

mam kitkat and all,

just want to seek advice if tama gagawin ko and if meron kayo suggestion...thanks

1. car shampoo
2. meguiars UQD
3. meguiars UQW
4. meguiars TECH WAX 2.0

tama po ba sequence ko or mas maganda after putting the wax lagi ko punasan pa ng UQD?

gaano po katagal and interval nung paglagay ko ng UQW para malagayan ko ng TECH WAX 2.0?

for me sir try mo pabaligtad.. 4 3 2 1 haha joke lang ..

1 4 3 2 .. ganyan po..

[ennzo]

for me sir try mo pabaligtad.. 4 3 2 1 haha joke lang ..

1 4 3 2 .. ganyan po..

hahhhaahhaha ano kaya itsura kapag binaliktad sir? nyways thanks as advice hope to hear more advice from others...

[jed_015]

1 4 3 2...


sa interval no idea..

[scharnhorst]

mam kitkat and all,

just want to seek advice if tama gagawin ko and if meron kayo suggestion...thanks

1. car shampoo
2. meguiars UQD
3. meguiars UQW
4. meguiars TECH WAX 2.0

tama po ba sequence ko or mas maganda after putting the wax lagi ko punasan pa ng UQD?

gaano po katagal and interval nung paglagay ko ng UQW para malagayan ko ng TECH WAX 2.0?

si ma'am madkatz ata tinutukoy mo. hehe.

steps should be...

1) Wash: so shampoo
2) claying: wala
3) glaze/sealant : wala in this case
4) wax: ideally paste or at least liquid (wag spray unless OCW.) in this case: TECH WAX 2.0

so pwede ka na tumigil dyan.

pero kung gusto mo pa ituloy...

5) liquid booster wax: in this case: Ultimate Quik Wax

yung Ultimate quik detailer is for cleaning the car without washing. mist the area, then wipe with a microfiber cloth. useful for bird droppings and watermarks.

hope the input was good

can't wait to try OCW+OGE this weekend!

might also experiment with nanosliq+OGE. heehehe

[ennzo]

si ma'am madkatz ata tinutukoy mo. hehe.

steps should be...

1) Wash: so shampoo
2) claying: wala
3) glaze/sealant : wala in this case
4) wax: ideally paste or at least liquid (wag spray unless OCW.) in this case: TECH WAX 2.0

so pwede ka na tumigil dyan.

pero kung gusto mo pa ituloy...

5) liquid booster wax: in this case: Ultimate Quik Wax

yung Ultimate quik detailer is for cleaning the car without washing. mist the area, then wipe with a microfiber cloth. useful for bird droppings and watermarks.

hope the input was good

can't wait to try OCW+OGE this weekend!

might also experiment with nanosliq+OGE. heehehe

tama ka sir mam madkatz nga sa ibang forum pala yung kitkat! hahahaah
maraming salamat sa advice mo sir will do that sir...last question gaano katagal dapat ko intayin bago ko apply yung UQW kapag naapply ko na yung TECH WAX? 3 hours or 12 hours?

[scharnhorst]

tama ka sir mam madkatz nga sa ibang forum pala yung kitkat! hahahaah
maraming salamat sa advice mo sir will do that sir...last question gaano katagal dapat ko intayin bago ko apply yung UQW kapag naapply ko na yung TECH WAX? 3 hours or 12 hours?

Spray wax naman sya, pwede iapply kahit hindi overnight wait.

pero hintayin mo yung moisture nung tech wax bago ka mag apply ng UQW

[madkatz]

tatagal pa rin ba yung 476s on top of nano gloss? kasi diba hindi naman ganon ka durable yung nanogloss? may libreng nano gloss kasi yung car shampoo ng microtex kaya gusto ko try.

or mas ok ba 476s tapos nano gloss? hindi ako satisfied sa kintab ng 476s eh. or may cleaners yung nanogloss?

thanks

It will still be durable since the 476 will be the taking all the abuse instead of the Nano Glos and Nano Glos in itself is also quite durable, Nano Glos has Cleaners and Nano Glos isn't too oily that makes it a great base for 476 to bond properly.

[madkatz]

It seems flat rate na sila. 1 of each ng z2,z5 at zfx

Wow thats great deal if they're going flat rate. good luck with the Z's and post pictures ayt?

[madkatz]

You know what you missed ordering? Z6 (quick detailer) and Z7 (car wash).

You need Z6 in between layers and wash your car only with Z7. That's the trouble with the Zaino line. You can't use other brands, and if you do you lose some sleep thinking that you won't get the optimal shine and protection.
Very clever marketing, eh?

Haha yeah very clever marketing but after sometime and experimenting you could find other cheaper alternatives to it but yeah its still very much recommended to stick with one system since they are formulated to work with each other.

[madkatz]

mam kitkat and all,

just want to seek advice if tama gagawin ko and if meron kayo suggestion...thanks

1. car shampoo
2. meguiars UQD
3. meguiars UQW
4. meguiars TECH WAX 2.0

tama po ba sequence ko or mas maganda after putting the wax lagi ko punasan pa ng UQD?

gaano po katagal and interval nung paglagay ko ng UQW para malagayan ko ng TECH WAX 2.0?

Hahaha kitkat thats funny! there's always a first time for everything

As Doc has said advisable is

1. Car Shampoo
2. Clay
3. Wax

hmmm basically your regimen for one month would be

weekend 1

Wash and then Wax with NXT

UQD in between washes to remove contaminants and dusts

weekend 2

wash and then UQW

UQD in between washes to remove contaminants and dusts

weekend 3

if its rainy season wash with NXT

if its dry season wash with UQW

UQD in between washes to remove contaminants and dusts

weekend 4

wash and then UQW

UQD in between washes to remove contaminants and dusts

Explanation

NXT - you use this about every 2 weeks if its rainy season and once a month if its dry season, in NXT's case you don't need to use UQW anymore after since it would be pretty much pointless, and you don't need to use UQD after since NXT is very easy to remove, if you do get some hard to remove parts with NXT thats when you use UQD to help remove them safely

UQW = this is a booster wax, this usually adds and prolongs you current wax's protection to some people this is already considered to be a stand along wax but it my experience i would consider it as a topper since it doesn't last as long if used alone especially in our harsh environment, UQW however when used with NXT creates a longer lasting protection, of course not as long as collinites and other waxes but once used as a combo these two can beat any OTC product combo, it can even out last Reflection Advance Car Wax + Top Coat + Advance Spray wax combo

UQD = this is used in between washes to remove dusts and dirt when you're lazy and also improve gloss, this is recommended to be used in between to maintain that glossy look. this is usually an optional step, normally after i wash my car with a topper, if its not really really dirty i just wait until wash day, if i get too OC then i use a QD (UQD in your case ) to remove dusts and stop there, if i notice that the paint went a little dull after it got rained i also use QD for that to bring back the gloss, but basically with NXT and UQW, this would make UQD just an optional step, but it will greatly improve the gloss on the paint.

[rockstar5k]

It will still be durable since the 476 will be the taking all the abuse instead of the Nano Glos and Nano Glos in itself is also quite durable, Nano Glos has Cleaners and Nano Glos isn't too oily that makes it a great base for 476 to bond properly.

Hi Ms Madkatz,

How do you rate the cleaning properties of Nanogloss? Is it strong enough to remove sealants like KSG?

[Chikselog]

*madkatz
mam is sir ed available this weekend? Might have to consult him about the meds69 and my 476.

[electone]

Haha yeah very clever marketing but after sometime and experimenting you could find other cheaper alternatives to it but yeah its still very much recommended to stick with one system since they are formulated to work with each other.

Mam madkatz, speaking of alternatives, what would you recommend as replacements for Z6 and Z7? I'd like to know your experience. TIA

[Nik]

bigla lang pumasok sa isip ko ngayon lang.. if ang sealant hindi kumakapit sa Glaze.. after mga 1 week eh tangal agaw ang sealant dahil sa glaze..

what if sealant muna then glaze then WAX.. ilang weeks kaya tatagal ang collinite 476s on top of Glaze? may nakaka-alam ba? TIA

hindi ko pa ma test kasi wala pa 476s. and no time mag detail laging gamit yung car.

[jmpet626]

Kung mauuna yung sealant baka hindi na maging effective yung glaze in filling in swirls. I think kung same product line ang glaze at sealant pwede naman mauna glaze like Poorboys Black hole/ world white glaze then EX-P paint sealant.

[madkatz]

Hi Ms Madkatz,

How do you rate the cleaning properties of Nanogloss? Is it strong enough to remove sealants like KSG?

It depends on how you apply and remove NanoGlos, if you have a heavy hand chances are it might, but based on its chemical composition its a lot lighter than most waxes that has cleaners plus its also a chemical cleaner so its really gentle, but then again even without Nano Glos if you repeatedly buff the area you are working you will eventually remove any existing layer

[madkatz]

*madkatz
mam is sir ed available this weekend? Might have to consult him about the meds69 and my 476.

he should very well be, i cancelled our morning date for a seminar so he should be free, lemme know if he's elsewhere hahaha he's dead meat if he is

[madkatz]

Mam madkatz, speaking of alternatives, what would you recommend as replacements for Z6 and Z7? I'd like to know your experience. TIA

for the Z7 i would recommend

Chemical Guys EXTREME BodyWash & Synthetic Wax/Gloss Enhancer

or

Optimum Car Wash this is cheap if you get the 32oz


for the Z6 i would recommend

Optimum Instant Detailer and Gloss Enhancer or better known as OGE

or

Finish Kare 425 im thinking about getting the promo at AG right now 100$ for 4 gallons of that QD.

[madkatz]

bigla lang pumasok sa isip ko ngayon lang.. if ang sealant hindi kumakapit sa Glaze.. after mga 1 week eh tangal agaw ang sealant dahil sa glaze..

what if sealant muna then glaze then WAX.. ilang weeks kaya tatagal ang collinite 476s on top of Glaze? may nakaka-alam ba? TIA

hindi ko pa ma test kasi wala pa 476s. and no time mag detail laging gamit yung car.

I agree with JM, and if you look at is carefully if the sealant produces a very slick layer already and then you apply a glaze then chances are the glaze won't really bond with the sealant, so whatever wax you put on top would be easily washed away because the mid step didn't bond properly, thats why its ok if glaze + wax but not necessarily when sealant + glaze + wax, the best case scenario for me would be a non oil based Glaze + sealant + wax, but those are really expensive and very hard to find, even we don't know where our mentor gets his orders for us