Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[madkatz]

Thanks, naka order na ko ZFX, Z5 at Z2... Need pa ba ng ZAIO for paint prep? Nakalimutan ko kasi i order hehehe. Also pwede naman sa checked luggage yung Z2?

It would be best if you have ZAIO, its like KAIO and KSG, ZAIO is really designed to let Z2 o5 Z5 bond with the paint and since they belong to the same polymer family they should bond pretty well. It should be ok, but if you want to be really safe put it inside a Ziploc Plastic bag, the first Z2 and Z5 we had were flammable old versions so all the Z2 and Z5 we asked our friend to bring over was left at the airport so we actually ended up wasting money, but i talked to Sal Zaino a few months back and he said that the new Z2 and Z5 are now VOC Compliant meaning it is still flammable but not as volatile as before, he said he's still not sure if it would be ok to bring via plane but there would be a better chance now to bring some over via plane. When are you coming back? if you every happen to have any order from AG could you pls do me a favor and include a Lavor and bosch Attachment?

[watusi]

Hahaha i just learned what it is, give us some feed back regarding the results and try to post pictures, at first it would seem that it might flatten the Collinite's beading but wait for a few more days and it'll be back, its just that the sealant needs time to cure and breath more, also my BF told me to ask you a favor, Can you do one section 915 first and then followed by the Meds69 hahaha thats really funny, and then one panel Meds69 first then 915?

he wants to check which combination would last longer.

MAdkatz, as requested, here are the shots of the experiment, hehe. I'll update you on the beading a week from now.

Preparation (makintab na, hehe)


Application of 1st layer left side - 915 before MEd69*, right side - Med69 before 915*

*applied after 4 hours.

Buffing of 1st layer (kumintab lalo at kuminang)


Gloss Comparison of 1st layer Med69 has a lighter shade compared to the 915 (had a hard time removing those tape marks!!haha)

[watusi]

Continuation

After 4 hours, i applied the 2nd layer, poured some water, here's the initial result -

Beading of right side - 915+Med69

Beading of leftt side - Med69+915

[watusi]

While waiting for 4 hours, here'e what i did....

Clayed the paint before I applied the Med69 (Rico, ayos talaga yung brand name na ginawa mo, apir...PAK!!) to the whole car.

Grabe dumi ng kotse ko, daming libag. What's the best protection from brake dust?

clean clay


after claying one side


result of the Med69


roof reflection


side view


hood

[electone]

Which do you prefer more if i may ask Z2 or Z5? did you notice their difference?

I can't tell because I layered Z2 over Z5. However, I did notice that the reflections became more distinct after applying Z2. But there's no way to tell if the improvement in reflections was due to Z2 ALONE or because of the total of 6 layers applied - 3 for Z5 and another 3 for Z2.

They say that Z5 fills the swirls but I was disappointed over this claim. After 3 layers of Z5 the few swirls that were present before application were still there.

[electone]

*watusi

Nice job! Med69 rocks!

[electone]

Thanks, naka order na ko ZFX, Z5 at Z2... Need pa ba ng ZAIO for paint prep? Nakalimutan ko kasi i order hehehe. Also pwede naman sa checked luggage yung Z2?

I know mam madkatz answered this already.

But you don't need really Z-AIO if you are going to use ZFX (which I see you've ordered already) especially for the initial layer. This is according to the Zaino FAQ on the website. ZFX already functions as a bonding agent as well as a cure accelerator.

Besides, Z-AIO can't be layered cause it has cleaning properties.

I made the mistake of ordering Z-AIO so it's just lying around not a drop used. I guess I'll just use it to detail friends' cars, if they will let me.

[frenchtower]

Very Impressive Work!!!

[jed_015]

If it will be on a silver, like i said before you could stop with Sapphire, Nano Glos for filling, NXT can also fill but Nano Glos is slightly better, so fill it first before you apply Sapphire, again don't put too much pressure with Sapphire to avoid removing the fillers and then stop there, NXT is great for dark colored cars not much on silvers and whites

okay ma'm got it!!!ayos na ayos..cant wait to buy NANO GLOS.thanks for the answers ma'm!kulit ko talaga e.. hehe..

*watusi, and tindi ng jazz mo sir..grabe..

[rockstar5k]

While waiting for 4 hours, here'e what i did....

Clayed the paint before I applied the Med69 (Rico, ayos talaga yung brand name na ginawa mo, apir...PAK!!) to the whole car.

Grabe dumi ng kotse ko, daming libag. What's the best protection from brake dust?


roof reflection


side view


hood

Nice job sir jc!

Wetlook na wet! hahaha!

Lalo ako nae-excite sa Med69! Ganda din sigurado sa black yan

[Nik]

edit* double post

[PSI]

NICE!!!!!!

OO nga maganda ata eto sa black...... sino ba me black....try naten..... .........

[jmpet626]

It would be best if you have ZAIO, its like KAIO and KSG, ZAIO is really designed to let Z2 o5 Z5 bond with the paint and since they belong to the same polymer family they should bond pretty well. It should be ok, but if you want to be really safe put it inside a Ziploc Plastic bag, the first Z2 and Z5 we had were flammable old versions so all the Z2 and Z5 we asked our friend to bring over was left at the airport so we actually ended up wasting money, but i talked to Sal Zaino a few months back and he said that the new Z2 and Z5 are now VOC Compliant meaning it is still flammable but not as volatile as before, he said he's still not sure if it would be ok to bring via plane but there would be a better chance now to bring some over via plane. When are you coming back? if you every happen to have any order from AG could you pls do me a favor and include a Lavor and bosch Attachment?

Sa 22 pa ako balik. Sayang kaka kuha ko lang ng order ko from Ag after regular UPS ground. Di na muna ako kumuha ng foam gun next time na lang.

[Nik]

Hehe sorry but our last bottle went with Meds69 it actually had some Zaino in it thats why its very glossy and reflective hahaha but i'll let you know once the new ones arrive, but if i were you i would still invest on KAIO and KSG, these would really be a great investment not to mention its very economical and KAIO is one of the best cleaner sealants out there.

mam meron na po ako carlack68 LLS and by friday baka bumili po ako ng carlack68 NSC.. inexplain po sakin ni master bakit ko need buy ng NSC combo with LLS.. nag hahanap po ako ng ipapatong after 3layers of LLS.. zaino po sana yung z5 para sa gloss tutal last top ng sealant na siya.. yun po plan ko hehe pag may zaino na po update nyo po ako mam salamat po

*question po.. pag prepare ko sa paint ok na ba ho ang swirlX + megs step2 ?? pang tangal ng swirls.. after nito saka ko na ipapatong ang KAIO and KSG..

[jmpet626]

I know mam madkatz answered this already.

But you don't need really Z-AIO if you are going to use ZFX (which I see you've ordered already) especially for the initial layer. This is according to the Zaino FAQ on the website. ZFX already functions as a bonding agent as well as a cure accelerator.

Besides, Z-AIO can't be layered cause it has cleaning properties.

I made the mistake of ordering Z-AIO so it's just lying around not a drop used. I guess I'll just use it to detail friends' cars, if they will let me.

Thanks! Hehe so atleast ok na pala yung na order ko. Bilis pala sa zaino online 3 days lang at flat rate yung shipping fee na 10$.

[Ritch_04]

Yes the filling properties will hide swirls and spiderwebs, with Nano Glos Maximum filling is achieved with 2 layers cured 4 hours in between, After Nano Glos Collinites are a great combo whats the color of your car BTW?

Thank you Ms. Madkatz. The color of my car is black and it's just 2 weeks old. The swirls and spiderwebs are really visible already. I will try NanoGlos this weekend with 2 coats. Thanks so much

[rico_g]

While waiting for 4 hours, here'e what i did....

Clayed the paint before I applied the Med69 (Rico, ayos talaga yung brand name na ginawa mo, apir...PAK!!) to the whole car.

Grabe dumi ng kotse ko, daming libag. What's the best protection from brake dust?

swak na swak idol!

controversial yang Med69 na yan! ganda ng gloss effect for u and sir ginnova...

i guess protection from brake dust boils down to regular maintenance... now that you keep protecting your car, with waxes and sealants, dust won't stick to the paint, but instead to the product itself... removing the dust should be as simple as cleaning away the wax in the future..

also, OGE, with it's non-stick, teflon like propoerties should make it easy to just dust it away...

[Ritch_04]

Yes the filling properties will hide swirls and spiderwebs, with Nano Glos Maximum filling is achieved with 2 layers cured 4 hours in between, After Nano Glos Collinites are a great combo whats the color of your car BTW?

Ms. Madkats anong magandang kasunod ng NanoGloss, Collinite 476 or 915? Thanks again.

[rockstar5k]

NICE!!!!!!

OO nga maganda ata eto sa black...... sino ba me black....try naten..... .........

..yung altis mo idol!

[watusi]

*watusi

Nice job! Med69 rocks!

oo nga e, astig yung Med69, ok kaya protection nito? (para sulit yung absent ko sa trabajo, hehe)

Very Impressive Work!!!

tnx, tinuruan ako ni master, hehe

okay ma'm got it!!!ayos na ayos..cant wait to buy NANO GLOS.thanks for the answers ma'm!kulit ko talaga e.. hehe..

*watusi, and tindi ng jazz mo sir..grabe..

tnx boss

Nice job sir jc!

Wetlook na wet! hahaha!

Lalo ako nae-excite sa Med69! Ganda din sigurado sa black yan

basang basa nga, dati deep look lang gusto ko pero nung nakit ko yung wet look, napaisip ako

NICE!!!!!!

OO nga maganda ata eto sa black...... sino ba me black....try naten..... .........

oo nga, ok yan subukan sa altis na black, haha