Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[Nik]

bro tumawag ako sa big berts araneta ave, meron silang carlack68 twin pack or individual. sa mga nakagamit ng carlack68 maganda ba ang feedback nito.

kanina ka lang tumawag pare? ayos !! tom punta ako !!

[rockstar5k]

Dagdag ko lang sa tanong ni sir Raine, will carlack68 give a tougher protection than any other carnauba waxes such as 476S? Sorry for the noob question I've been sticking to 476s for several months now and have never tried sealants. Just got intrigued if it will give my paint more protection. Thanks!

Yes! sealants offer long lasting protection than waxes.

[watusi]

Dagdag ko lang sa tanong ni sir Raine, will carlack68 give a tougher protection than any other carnauba waxes such as 476S? Sorry for the noob question I've been sticking to 476s for several months now and have never tried sealants. Just got intrigued if it will give my paint more protection. Thanks!

yes, sealants will offer protection longer compared to waxes.

Here's a helpful link to see the difference between the 2 - http://www.autogeek.net/qude101.html

[jmpet626]

ganda ng auto! ganda ng garahe! sigurado bigtime ganda ng crib mo sir! idol!

bro, how much inabot ng basic detailing kit mo including yang B&D rotary polisher? dali lang gamitin? prob ko yan puro watermarks sa hood. prob ko din baka malaki magagastos ko kung ako bibili ng makina kesa magpadetail na lang.

direcho optiseal na agad gamit mo to remove the watermarks? how does that compare to the M66 / M83? ano wax pwede to topoff the optiseal? sir, are your selling optiseal too? kahit in small bottles? or meron nagbebenta nito locally? ma'am madkatz? =)


dami tanong, sorry.

Generic brand lang ng rotary yan sir yung mga china made around 30$ bili ng bayaw ko.Naka 2 passes ako ng poliseal sa hood kasi finishing pad lang meron dito sa bahay. Mas magaan siya sa bnd pero parang hindi consistent yung speed niya nag fluctuate minsan yung speed . Mas maganda pa din yung bnd.

Yup tama si ms madkatz poliseal finishes well wala ng marring or swirls sa paint. Ok pang 1 step product since sealant na din siya. Pag uwi ko ng pinas siguro baka i iuwi ko din yung poliseal at ocw tinry ko lang gamitin nacurious kasi ako sa mga optimum products.

Sa detailing kit naman na rotary na bnd budget ka siguro mga 8 to 10k lahat na yung akin kasi 2 orange, 2 white at 2 black na LC pads, clay bar kit, ONR, polishes like megs 105/205 etc, backing plate and waxes and sealants. Mahal talaga initial investment pero good for 3 years naman yan mga consumable products kung 1 car lang ang gagamitan at kung multiple cars dinedetail mo mas makaka mura ka talaga.

Need lang ng practice sa pag gamit ng rotary kasi nasanay ako gumamit ng portercable iba yung technique niya. Attend ka lang sa detailing EB ni sir ed dun din ako natuto gumamit ng rotary.

Also pansin ko sa ibang shops hindi least aggressive method yung gamit nila sa pag remove ng defects tanggal nga yung defects in a short time pero laki naman nabawas sa clear coat mo eh since hindi naman sakanilang oto yun ok lang sakanila... While pag DIY ingat na ingat ka talaga

[jmpet626]

it will remove the gloss enhancing oils but not the fillers hehe

ay ganun ba hehe kala ko pag may cleaner yung wax matatangal din niya yung fillers at oils parang IPA wipedown

[PSI]

WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

PARTICIPANTS:
1) psi
2) bombitmd
3) Ginnova
4)scharnhorst
5)Chikselog
6) jed_015(tentative)
7) rico_g
8) watusi
9)
10)

got your nos..... thanks!!!!
GINNOVA
JED
WATUSI

I could meet you guys sa MCDO QAVE....will be there from 730-745AM....I suggest you guys take an early breakfast...convoy papunta dojo....

the rest of the gang i suggest you bring your washing materials....trust me it will be worth it

[rockstar5k]

....Also pansin ko sa ibang shops hindi least aggressive method yung gamit nila sa pag remove ng defects tanggal nga yung defects in a short time pero laki naman nabawas sa clear coat mo eh since hindi naman sakanilang oto yun ok lang sakanila... While pag DIY ingat na ingat ka talaga

Pansin ko rin yun....last time nagpa-detail ako, nadulas infront of me ung detailer tapos nakayod nia hood, hindi man lang humingi ng sorry. Alam nia kasi may solusyon e. tsk tsk tsk....kaya ako nagiipon ako ng knowledge at pambili ng gamit....claybar, sealant, and makina na lang kulang ko.

OT...kelan balik mo sir JM?

[kafph2000]

*Rockstar5k & Watusi
Thanks for the info guys! Now I know I also need to invest on sealants such as carlack68.

[azzkkr2600]

Generic brand lang ng rotary yan sir yung mga china made around 30$ bili ng bayaw ko.Naka 2 passes ako ng poliseal sa hood kasi finishing pad lang meron dito sa bahay. Mas magaan siya sa bnd pero parang hindi consistent yung speed niya nag fluctuate minsan yung speed . Mas maganda pa din yung bnd.

Yup tama si ms madkatz poliseal finishes well wala ng marring or swirls sa paint. Ok pang 1 step product since sealant na din siya. Pag uwi ko ng pinas siguro baka i iuwi ko din yung poliseal at ocw tinry ko lang gamitin nacurious kasi ako sa mga optimum products.

Sa detailing kit naman na rotary na bnd budget ka siguro mga 8 to 10k lahat na yung akin kasi 2 orange, 2 white at 2 black na LC pads, clay bar kit, ONR, polishes like megs 105/205 etc, backing plate and waxes and sealants. Mahal talaga initial investment pero good for 3 years naman yan mga consumable products kung 1 car lang ang gagamitan at kung multiple cars dinedetail mo mas makaka mura ka talaga.

Need lang ng practice sa pag gamit ng rotary kasi nasanay ako gumamit ng portercable iba yung technique niya. Attend ka lang sa detailing EB ni sir ed dun din ako natuto gumamit ng rotary.

Also pansin ko sa ibang shops hindi least aggressive method yung gamit nila sa pag remove ng defects tanggal nga yung defects in a short time pero laki naman nabawas sa clear coat mo eh since hindi naman sakanilang oto yun ok lang sakanila... While pag DIY ingat na ingat ka talaga

thanks sa info sir! mahal kasi PC na makina e. kaya nagbabalak ako kumuha ng B&D rotary. (ma'am madkatz mura lang pag sa inyo ako bibili diba?) mag-uwi ka ng extra poliseal at ocw sir kung like mo i-share or ibenta samin. ano pads dapat meron ang basic detailing kit? dito sa pinas where makakabili ng 5in backing plate at pads(na tulad ng ginagamit mo, ccw ba yun?)?

nasubukan ko na rotary nun isang EB kina sir edwin. di ko pa natry un PC. alin mas okay ba?

[jmpet626]

thanks sa info sir! mahal kasi PC na makina e. kaya nagbabalak ako kumuha ng B&D rotary. (ma'am madkatz mura lang pag sa inyo ako bibili diba?) mag-uwi ka ng extra poliseal at ocw sir kung like mo i-share or ibenta samin. ano pads dapat meron ang basic detailing kit? dito sa pinas where makakabili ng 5in backing plate at pads(na tulad ng ginagamit mo, ccw ba yun?)?

nasubukan ko na rotary nun isang EB kina sir edwin. di ko pa natry un PC. alin mas okay ba?

Mas user friendly yung PC at mas forgiving pag nagkamali ka pero medyo matagal makatanggal ng defects while sa rotary konting passes lang tanggal na yung defects. Yung backing plate na 5 inch meron ako nabili sa true value stores. Yung pads naman meron yan sa mothers HQ sa may santolan 6.5inch CCS pads.

[PSI]

WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

* guys..... me 3 pang sasama so I strongly suggest you to go there early.... lam ninyo naman ilan slot ang ang kasya....sayang din hehehehehe!

* SA MGA SASABAY/COCONVOY with me
MEETING PLACE: MCDO QAVE (tabi ng red ribbon)
TIME: 715-730 (Have to be early sa dojo... )

*MASTER..... kung di ka matutulog pwede bang 3AM diyan na ko....nuod na lang tayo movies ....dala ko ng makukutkut....pwede rin inom tayo habang degrime o nag cclay ako HAHAHAHA!!

[madkatz]

bro tumawag ako sa big berts araneta ave, meron silang carlack68 twin pack or individual. sa mga nakagamit ng carlack68 maganda ba ang feedback nito.

Yes its one of the best for me, its within my top 10 sealants

[madkatz]

Dagdag ko lang sa tanong ni sir Raine, will carlack68 give a tougher protection than any other carnauba waxes such as 476S? Sorry for the noob question I've been sticking to 476s for several months now and have never tried sealants. Just got intrigued if it will give my paint more protection. Thanks!

Using a sealant will just give you that added layer of protection against the elements so just incase something drops on your car and eats up all your 476 you still have another layer to reduce the damage, Carlack LLS lasts about 1 month more than 476

[madkatz]

ay ganun ba hehe kala ko pag may cleaner yung wax matatangal din niya yung fillers at oils parang IPA wipedown

Cleaner waxes would replace the oils from the Step 2 and replace it with oils from Sapphire, if you use a cleaner sealant like KAIO thats when everything gets stripped down, but if you use a cleaner wax like Sapphire, it will remove the oils and replace them with new ones, Cleaner Sealant = like IPA Wipedown, Cleaner Wax ( Not Pre-wax Cleaner ) = replace oils, the fillers from Step 2 are not that easy to remove actually so majority of them stays there.

[madkatz]

thanks sa info sir! mahal kasi PC na makina e. kaya nagbabalak ako kumuha ng B&D rotary. (ma'am madkatz mura lang pag sa inyo ako bibili diba?) mag-uwi ka ng extra poliseal at ocw sir kung like mo i-share or ibenta samin. ano pads dapat meron ang basic detailing kit? dito sa pinas where makakabili ng 5in backing plate at pads(na tulad ng ginagamit mo, ccw ba yun?)?

nasubukan ko na rotary nun isang EB kina sir edwin. di ko pa natry un PC. alin mas okay ba?

I won't know 100% if ours is cheaper but we do have a cheaper price compared to most shops out there, as for Poli-seal if you're planning on asking JM to buy you some OPT products better have the Opti-seal instead, this way you can protect it from further damages better than Poli-seal, and then just have the watermarks removed using others polishes OCW is also available locally.

In order of importance in terms of detailing kit

1. Shampoo and Washmitt ( of course 2 buckets also )
2. Wax and MF's
3. Step 2 and MF's
4. Clay
5. Step 1 and MF's
6. Sealant and MF's( at this point you're all complete in terms of protecting and maintaining the paint
7. Polish ( preferably applicable by hand and machine )
8. Machine and Pads ( either PC or rotary )
9. Compound

[madkatz]

WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

* guys..... me 3 pang sasama so I strongly suggest you to go there early.... lam ninyo naman ilan slot ang ang kasya....sayang din hehehehehe!

* SA MGA SASABAY/COCONVOY with me
MEETING PLACE: MCDO QAVE (tabi ng red ribbon)
TIME: 715-730 (Have to be early sa dojo... )

*MASTER..... kung di ka matutulog pwede bang 3AM diyan na ko....nuod na lang tayo movies ....dala ko ng makukutkut....pwede rin inom tayo habang degrime o nag cclay ako HAHAHAHA!!

Haha he'll be taking me and my friends out bar hopping Saturday night but i've already told him and i think he's game either way

[watusi]

sisters and brothers, what are you top 2 or 3 or 5 in:

1. waxes (paste/liquid)
2. sealants
3. polishes
4. glaze/fillers
5. rotary polishers
6. dual action polishers
7. clays
8. QDs
9. Washmitts
10. MF towels
11. car shampoos

Feel free to add more detailing essentials that i missed out.

[jed_015]

WHAT: DETAILING SEMINAR
WHEN: 09.12.11 (SUNDAY)
WHERE: MASTER'S DOJO..... LOOK AND YOU SHALL FIND
TIME: 8:00 AM

TOPICS
novice
1) Product knowledge (di po brainwashing.... me libreng pagong wax kung gusto ninyo...libre gamit ng polisher para sureball ang kapit)
2) How to properly wash your car (do's and don'ts)=== whole car (guinea pig)
3) step 1-2-3 (4? wag na next time ) === 1 panel only....

urangutang na sa semminar
1) WASH -CLAY- SEAL ---- 2 cars will be use..... first 2 urangutng wins (bring your own wash meet/pail/mfs/clay) (sat pa lang mag clay na ko para di pagod...sana manalo)

both programs will go simultaneous (product knowledge first then pili na kayo ng session)

PARTICIPANTS:
1) psi
2) bombitmd
3) Ginnova
4)scharnhorst
5)Chikselog
6) rico_g
7) watusi
8)
9)
10)

got your nos..... thanks!!!!
GINNOVA
JED
WATUSI

I could meet you guys sa MCDO QAVE....will be there from 730-745AM....I suggest you guys take an early breakfast...convoy papunta dojo....

the rest of the gang i suggest you bring your washing materials....trust me it will be worth it

Hindi na ako makakasama next time nalang..sayang dami kong tanung na baon..

[scharnhorst]

*phew* just detailed the mazda 2.

I'm having a hard time removing collinite from the plastic trim. any suggestions kung paano tatanggalin?

kelangan ko pala umalis after lunch bukas. wah.

[bombitmd]

Kakalipat lang namin ng bahay; first night namin sa new home. Hindi ko sure kung makakapunta ako; sorry for the late announcement. Pero try ko; kailangan ko na mag steps 1 to 5! hehe! Sige na nga, steps 1 to 3 lang :wink: