Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued 3]

**rna800** · September 14th, 2012 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by jfelli

*rna800 - thanks sir for the feedback and suggestions. I guess I'll go with 845.
hindi pa rin ako nakakapag-clay and clean ng paint, for 4 months shampoo and waxing lang lagi.

how often should we have our cars clayed po ba? I usually wash during weekends lang din, duster lang every weekdays and QD, guilty rin of being OC, pag nakikitang may alikabok yung sasakyan at yung tipong hindi papayag na masandalan at mahawakan yung paint.

and I notice pag natapatan ng fluorescent yung paint may mga micro-scratches na rin, ano kaya ang pwedeng gawin para matanggal sila? ang mga nababasa ko kasi necessary yung rotary or buffing machine for removing these scratches, meron ba way na by hand application lang?

thanks!

If you haven't prepared your paint yet sir, I suggest do that first then finish it with the 845 so you could really see its full effect on your paint.

They said that claying is done 2x a year only. Some people do it more. Some do it whenever they do a full detail quarterly. It really depends on the condition of your paint. If you run your hand on the panel and you feel some roughness on it, that's the time you can clay. And better to apply those bug and tar remover first to soften those hardened asphalts for easier removal. It would also lessen the chance that those asphalts get stuck on the clay and cause marring. Bug and tar removers can be found in malls but for me, I just use kerosene. It's way cheaper and the effect is the same. After that, on with your cleaning process such as clay, scratch and swirl removal, polishing, etc. Depends on what products you use. If you are not really sure what products to use, do the step 1, 2 and 3. Then after that, enjoy the look of your car and rest well coz for sure you will feel so sore.hehe

Scratches and swirls are really hard to prevent. There are a lot of possible causes from your washing materials, road works, etc. For some very light scratches and swirls, polishing would do the trick. For those tricky ones, you might wanna look at compounds already. But be very careful since if applied incorrectly, you can damage your clear coat since they are really abrasive. Yes, machines such as rotary, dual action polishers are way better than applying by hand but of course, they are more expensive and require more experience. For example that rotary, if you don't know how to use it, you can burn your paint. There are a lot of swirl and scratch removers available in malls, just make sure they are safe for clear coats. The difference if applied by hand is you have to give an elbow grease which are really shoulder killers and will really wear you down. If you are not sure, research first before buying. Examine the severity of the scratch the decide what product to use. Use the least abrasive first and do a test spot before going over the entire car.

**rna800** · September 14th, 2012 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ginnova

nanoglos has some light cleaners.

But let's say what you have on your paint is 476, is there a chance that it can remove it, sir?

**Ginnova** · September 14th, 2012 08:34 PM

yes it can remove it. this is the reason why nanaglos is applied under 476.

**rna800** · September 14th, 2012 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ginnova

yes it can remove it. this is the reason why nanaglos is applied under 476.

Wow, I didn't know that its cleaning properties are that strong. Does that mean, sir, that it will strip everything from wax to sealant on your paint once you apply it? Since I have read that it's a hybrid wax which also has polymer sealants, once you apply it, it will replace what it removed. Is my understanding correct?

**alvinladen** · September 20th, 2012 07:46 PM

ano ba magadang product para sa nangangalawang na chrome?

**indiej** · October 1st, 2012 08:25 AM

The rust must be removed. Lata o rust converter.

Metal polish for chrome.

Unfortunately chrome damage is not DIY friendly.
You can foil it.
Spray painting it is a bit more complicated than auto painting.
Lastly, the conventional chroming process is a full on industrial chem. process.

**indiej** · October 1st, 2012 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by rna800

Wow, I didn't know that its cleaning properties are that strong. Does that mean, sir, that it will strip everything from wax to sealant on your paint once you apply it? Since I have read that it's a hybrid wax which also has polymer sealants, once you apply it, it will replace what it removed. Is my understanding correct?

It is possible to check the condition of the last product applied. Once another layer is applied, it's gonna be difficult to check the condition/presence of the previous layer. There could be a way but mostly, what's under there is faith.

**rna800** · October 1st, 2012 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by indiej

It is possible to check the condition of the last product applied. Once another layer is applied, it's gonna be difficult to check the condition/presence of the previous layer. There could be a way but mostly, what's under there is faith.

For the LSP, I check on the beading. For the cleaning/polishing, I base on the how the paint looks, if it's filled with scratches or kinda looks dirty. But to accurately check the condition of the previously applied product, your guess is as good as mine.

**rna800** · October 1st, 2012 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by indiej

It is possible to check the condition of the last product applied. Once another layer is applied, it's gonna be difficult to check the condition/presence of the previous layer. There could be a way but mostly, what's under there is faith.

Double post.