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[Chikselog]

*SG
Ganun talaga

Bumalik na beading ng 476S ko after ko mag-wash.

Part na ng SOP ko, after washing gagamit ako ONR CQD then OGE. Isa o dalawang gamitan na lang ata NanoSLIQ ko

[jagtemp]

Hey guys, need another advice :D


I'm planning to buy Collinite kasi and I still haven't picked between the two:

1. Sapphire
2. 476

Pwede ko pa rin ba gamitin ung Mom's Step3 ko underneath the Collinite layer? You guys also said na pang White cars 'ung Sapphire e.. pero pareho lang ba sila ng durability? And sa water beading?

Thanks ulit!

[Starex_Gold]

Sapphire nalang kunin mo

[jagtemp]

Ano ba difference ng dalawa sir? Mas mahal pala kasi Sapphire e napansin ko.

At may different way of applying ba when it comes to Collinite waxes?

[Starex_Gold]

Mas maganda kung Sapphire. Made for white and metallic paints.

Applying Collinite? Same lang

[jagtemp]

Ayt thanks.

So pwede pa rin kaya to sir?

Step 2 (monthly?) + Step 3 + Sapphire ?

Ok lang din ba i-apply kaagad ung sapphire right after Step3?

[Starex_Gold]

hmmm.. pwede yan. Ginagawa ko Step 2 + 915..

Siguro mga after 3 hours tsaka ka mag coat ng Sapphire

[scharnhorst]

*ma'am madkatz: 5 hours?! and I thought we had rotten luck.

*Chikselog: tama si sir renzo, mas makintab na ata yan sa totoong salamin e.

nagwash rin ako 2 days in a row... kagabi tapos ngayong gabi. haha. Kelangan ko na ng ultra plush, pang buff ng mga QD.

just a question... redundant ba kung maglagay ako ng nanosliq over a spraywax? Natuluan ako ng sliq kanina, and parang parehas yung consistency nila

parang sa conditions natin lately, mga 2-3 weeks lang tumatagal yung 476...

[PSI]

*chik....
sensya na sa kuha ko...need ko bago DC....OTmura na lang D90!!!)


black ba kamo idol chiick.....









just got home....antok na ko...mya ulit....

[rico_g]

other than ease, is there any other difference in result of a car wash vs a waterless wash (using ONR)?

Also, i'd like to ask for inputs on the difference between OGE vs NanoSliq.

thanks mga pafs!

[rico_g]

I modify mo na lang siya with velcro straps para mag accept ng buffing pads. Di kasi maganda yung free bonnet ng black and decker. Pwedeng pwede siya mag apply ng Waxes, sealants, glazes. laking time masasave mo by using a ROP. Yung Mothers california gold step 1 to 3 ng mothers pwede by BnD ROP lang. Kulang nga lang power niya para maka remove ng oxidation at swirls although pwede niya ma hide ang mga swirls at scratches kung gumamit ka ng glazes












Eto yung article ni Mike Philipps about wax spreaders

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...-spreader.html

sir JM, what did you use para dumikit ung velcro? Mighty bond? rugby?

Also, wats this big red thing? is this an applicator? buffing pad? is this better than using an MF bonnet? (i made an MF bonnet out of those micromagic MF towels. mahal microtex para gawing bonnet eh. although i'd really rather use velcro for ease.

[jmpet626]

sir JM, what did you use para dumikit ung velcro? Mighty bond? rugby?

Also, wats this big red thing? is this an applicator? buffing pad? is this better than using an MF bonnet? (i made an MF bonnet out of those micromagic MF towels. mahal microtex para gawing bonnet eh. although i'd really rather use velcro for ease.

CCS Red Ultrasoft Wax/Sealant Foam yan sir. Pang apply lang siya ng wax at sealants di sya for product removal. Gamit ko rugby tapos yung mga gilid gilid mighty bond. Malaking tulong talaga yung velcro mod kasi yung applicator ng bnd na foam madaling mapunit at mahirap ikabit. Usually 1 time use lang siya kasi madali masira.

http://www.autogeek.net/lc-ccs-6inch-pads.html

Meron pa ko sobrang pads PM na lang.. heheh

[Chikselog]

GUYS...........
next sun (07.04.10) there will be a seminar on the following topics:

1) PRODUCT DETAILS (how to use and descriptions of various products)

2) DEGRIMMING (yung pagtangal ng mga dumi sa singit singit. EX:yung mga libag sa gilid ng emblem ng oto natin)

3) WHEELS

4) POLISING (will include proper way of using the unano (nonrotating) and other buffing machines)

PLACE: CALOOCAN (house ni MASTER EDWIN )
TIME: 8:30 sharp

this will only be a half day affair, if we won't be able to finish it there will be a 2nd part. Thus, will try to add more topics probably engine detailing on the second day.

VARIOUS DETAILING PRODUCTS will be available
kindly IM me the products you need and will let you know if it will be available and the price.

* MADKATZ....sowi for the confusion (napuno po ba inbox ninyo ) hope to see you there.....

PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ATTENDING
1) PSI
2)bombitmd
3)rico_g - looking to get OGE... and if budget's good, ONR na rin!!!
4)Chikselog (tentative) - baka may mga kasama po ako, not sure.
5)

[Battlestar]

Kung magtatanggal ka ng watermarks dapat may pressure at kung matagal na yung watermarks need mo na ng polish like m83 or swirl X para matanggal yun watermarks. Mas adviseable na machine ang gamitin para mas even at consistent ang pag tanggal ng defect compared sa by hand na removal

Hi, Sorry for late reply.

I bought Mom's Claybar then apply on my Hood. It lessen the watermarks but noticeable pa rin yung iba. In, short di kinaya ng Clay + Carnauba Cleaner Wax with pressure. Hinde pa naman siya nag etch, I'll drop by again on Blade to get Meg's SwirlX sana matanggal na.

1.)Is is ok to skip the Step 1 then apply the Step 2 & 3? Or required talaga step 1?
Yes, step 1 is usually only used 2 to 3 times a year or depending on the condition of the paint

2.)If Step 1 is required, do I need to apply the clay? Medyo madumi kase bubong balak ko i-clay. Ano po mauna, Clay or Step 1?
Clay first then step 1

3.)May interval po ba pag-apply ng mga wax? Step 1 1hr then Step 2 ...etc?
From Step 1 to Step 2 and from Step 2 to Step 3 there is no waiting time, you just need to wait for cure times which is when you want to layer waxes and sealants.

4.) How do I remove watermarks on the hood?
That depends on what kind of water marks, if its just mineral deposits you could remove them with clay, but these are the light ones that can't be removed by washing, if its already etched you might want to use a polish already for that.


Btw, I have all the materials needed for the detail, except for the buffing machine. So wax,clay,sealer&glaze na lang hanap ko.

Wax - there are a lot of good waxes out there, actually Megs, Mothers and TW makes great waxes its just that nowadays some people really prefer to spend more and get more protection for their paint thats why collinite has been making raves, but for summer time all 3 wax companies have waxes that are great for maintaining the paint its just that the recent intermittent rains can really cause unsightly watermarks on the paint especially since you can have water splat on your car and dry up, up to 3 times a day lately.

For shine TW platinum and Mothers Step 3 are good, Mothers step 3 falls a little short on after washings but its still great especially the paste version, Megs has Gold Class which is like Moms Step 3 in terms of shine being easily washed but it looks really good on black, and of course there's Megs which looks great on all colors and has hydrophobic technology and can fill swirls, this of all OTC products last the longest but is also the most expensive. Microtex have also come up with a wax and i love its filling capabilities and its shine.

For glazes if you want an easy to apply glaze then go for Moms Step 2, but if you want better results you can go for 3m IHG but i don't always recommend that because its a PITA to remove.

Hi, Thanks for the help

[rockstar5k]

GUYS...........
next sun (07.04.10) there will be a seminar on the following topics:

1) PRODUCT DETAILS (how to use and descriptions of various products)

2) DEGRIMMING (yung pagtangal ng mga dumi sa singit singit. EX:yung mga libag sa gilid ng emblem ng oto natin)

3) WHEELS

4) POLISING (will include proper way of using the unano (nonrotating) and other buffing machines)

PLACE: CALOOCAN (house ni MASTER EDWIN )
TIME: 8:30 sharp

this will only be a half day affair, if we won't be able to finish it there will be a 2nd part. Thus, will try to add more topics probably engine detailing on the second day.

VARIOUS DETAILING PRODUCTS will be available
kindly IM me the products you need and will let you know if it will be available and the price.

* MADKATZ....sowi for the confusion (napuno po ba inbox ninyo ) hope to see you there.....

PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ATTENDING
1) PSI
2)bombitmd
3)rico_g - looking to get OGE... and if budget's good, ONR na rin!!!
4)Chikselog (tentative) - baka may mga kasama po ako, not sure.
5)Rockstar5k (hahabol) - will get ONR and microtek terry cloths.

[james00112233]

*SG
ano kayang magandang wax for my ride?
currently, I'm using TW Platinum, that's all. I'm planning to buy Nano Glos and Nano Sliq. Would that be good?

[mf051404]

Just get any high quality paint brush and it works just as well for the interior, if its for the exterior there's this one brand i forgot but its used for painting walls but its soo fine it actually works better than some of the detail brushes i bough from the US

Available sa local hardware stores, Ace, DIY, Handyman etc...just specify horsehair / camelhair brush...hindi yung plastic...kung gusto mo talaga yung rounded, sa national bookstore meron din sya...

[mf051404]

no worries ma'm!

grabe talaga ulan ngayon. kakawash ko lang kaninang umaga.. umulan ngayong hapon.. errr.. nagdedegrade na ang beading ng 476.
kailangan ko na ata talaga ng covered parking.

Yung suggestion ni Ma'am Madkatz ok naman, nanoGLOS then Colli476s (single coat pa lang), hanggang ngayon ok pa (2 weeks na yata) parang kalalagay ko lang ng wax hitsura niya parang bagong lagay na clearcoat (considering maulan dito sa baguio at kapag umaraw naman eh maalikabok..di pa ako nag-a-apply ng nanosliq at balak ko mag-2nd coat...baka di na sya kumapit kapag may nanosliq na...

[orange23]

i just used megs scratchx 2.0 on our black tucson to remove watermarks/etching, success!!! pero kailangan talaga ng pressure... di pa ako tapos pero very happy ako sa result ng megs scratchx 2.0... after ko mag scratchx 2.0, i apply mothers step 3 and mothers showtime... bought scratchx 2.0 in ATC * 870.00...

[mf051404]

Sapphire nalang kunin mo

Nabasa ko sa mga forum na may cutting compounds daw ang Sapphire, for initial use ok siguro sya for corrective purpose na din, pero hindi yata sya magandang gamitin palagi dahil ninipis ang clear coat? Kaya recommended is either 845 (insulator), 476s, 915 of yung Fleetwax (speaking of Collinite ha) dahil walang abrasives..tama ba?