Detailing Thread [For Newbies][ARCHIVED]

[aejhayl17]

any updates about the eb?

[Battlestar]

re-application lang ng step 3 ang kailangan ng curing time.. step 1,2,3 pwedeng tuloy tuloy lang ang pagapply after buffing off sir.

winork niyo po ba ng konti yung cleaner wax? sa unshaded parking ba nakapark si oto?

welcome po!

Pag ako nag wax and wash sa garahe po walang init dun. Actually pang 2nd time ko pa lang siya nilagyan ng wax. Mother's Carnaubax Wax Cleanear ginamit ko, not sure kung wax talaga yun eh. I used the micro magic applicator pad then apply on one shade then wait to haze then wipe using micro fiber cloth. Tama ba process ko? No pressure on wiping since yun ang sabi sa youtube na pinapanood ko . Pero andun pa rin ang watermark sa hood

[jmpet626]

Pag ako nag wax and wash sa garahe po walang init dun. Actually pang 2nd time ko pa lang siya nilagyan ng wax. Mother's Carnaubax Wax Cleanear ginamit ko, not sure kung wax talaga yun eh. I used the micro magic applicator pad then apply on one shade then wait to haze then wipe using micro fiber cloth. Tama ba process ko? No pressure on wiping since yun ang sabi sa youtube na pinapanood ko . Pero andun pa rin ang watermark sa hood

Kung magtatanggal ka ng watermarks dapat may pressure at kung matagal na yung watermarks need mo na ng polish like m83 or swirl X para matanggal yun watermarks. Mas adviseable na machine ang gamitin para mas even at consistent ang pag tanggal ng defect compared sa by hand na removal

[beeco]

Kung magtatanggal ka ng watermarks dapat may pressure at kung matagal na yung watermarks need mo na ng polish like m83 or swirl X para matanggal yun watermarks. Mas adviseable na machine ang gamitin para mas even at consistent ang pag tanggal ng defect compared sa by hand na removal

+1
try swirlx muna sir kung di pa afford and machine. anu po ba ang car niyo honda? masarap magswirlx sa honda.. ang bilis ng rsults dahil sa nipis ng paint. hahaha! although yun nga lang mabilis din maubos ang clear coat.

[Battlestar]

Kung magtatanggal ka ng watermarks dapat may pressure at kung matagal na yung watermarks need mo na ng polish like m83 or swirl X para matanggal yun watermarks. Mas adviseable na machine ang gamitin para mas even at consistent ang pag tanggal ng defect compared sa by hand na removal

I see, so Mother's Carnauba Cleaner Wax then M83 or Swirl-X? May I know if M83 or Swirl-X is available locally? If yes meron ba nyan sa Blade sir?
Thanks sir jmpet626!

+1
try swirlx muna sir kung di pa afford and machine. anu po ba ang car niyo honda? masarap magswirlx sa honda.. ang bilis ng rsults dahil sa nipis ng paint. hahaha! although yun nga lang mabilis din maubos ang clear coat.

Ford Escape ocean Blue. Thanks sir beeco!

[jmpet626]

I see, so Mother's Carnauba Cleaner Wax then M83 or Swirl-X? May I know if M83 or Swirl-X is available locally? If yes meron ba nyan sa Blade sir?
Thanks sir jmpet626!



Ford Escape ocean Blue. Thanks sir beeco!

Swirl X muna or m83 last step na yung cleaner wax. Ang meron lang sa blade is swirl X. Yung m83 meron 8oz bottles sa Simex Distro sa may Kamias

[Battlestar]

Swirl X muna or m83 last step na yung cleaner wax. Ang meron lang sa blade is swirl X. Yung m83 meron 8oz bottles sa Simex Distro sa may Kamias

All right sir, hu-hunting ko yan! M83 is Also know Megs 83 right? Btw sir what does QD means?

[beeco]

I see, so Mother's Carnauba Cleaner Wax then M83 or Swirl-X? May I know if M83 or Swirl-X is available locally? If yes meron ba nyan sa Blade sir?
Thanks sir jmpet626!



Ford Escape ocean Blue. Thanks sir beeco!

nice color sir! danda danda tignan niyan sa road.

[PSI]

Originally Posted by PSI
GUYS...........
next sun (07.04.10) there will be a seminar on the following topics:

1) PRODUCT DETAILS (how to use and descriptions of various products)

2) DEGRIMMING (yung pagtangal ng mga dumi sa singit singit. EX:yung mga libag sa gilid ng emblem ng oto natin)

3) WHEELS

4) POLISING (will include proper way of using the unano (nonrotating) and other buffing machines)

PLACE: CALOOCAN (house ni MASTER EDWIN )
TIME: 8:30 sharp

this will only be a half day affair, if we won't be able to finish it there will be a 2nd part. Thus, will try to add more topics probably engine detailing on the second day.

VARIOUS DETAILING PRODUCTS will be available
kindly IM me the products you need and will let you know if it will be available and the price.

* MADKATZ....sowi for the confusion (napuno po ba inbox ninyo ) hope to see you there.....

PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ATTENDING
1) PSI
2)bombitmd
3)rico_g - looking to get OGE... and if budget's good, ONR na rin!!!
4)
5)



latest update

[Chikselog]

Just got home. I dunno if nakakatanggal ng 476S yung ONR cleaning QD dilution or talagang grabe lang ang panahon ngayon.

I applied a 2nd layer of 476S nung Sunday, kahapon ok pa siya mag-bead, nung pagkauwi ko, super dumi, so ginamit ko lang ONR cleaning QD pang linis, yun lang ginawa ko.

Kanina namang umaga umulan mahina lang. Tapos natuyuan yung vios ng tubig ulan sa hood roof and trunk so may watermarks. Tinira ko ng ONR cleaning QD yung trunk, tanggal naman pero parang nag etch kapag pinupunasan ko ulit.

Tapos kaninang hapon nung malakas na ulan di na siya nagbebead (roof hood trunk). Super dumi ulit ngayon. Tinry ko ulit ngayon i-hose down pero wala na talaga beading.

Ang bilis mawala ng 476S ko

[scharnhorst]

grabeng trapik sa maynila. just got home.

detail na!

*bombitmd: must be nice to have an acupuncture session after ng detailing na manu mano. hehe. I'm not yet an MD sir, but I'd like to become one

[jmpet626]

Just got home. I dunno if nakakatanggal ng 476S yung ONR cleaning QD dilution or talagang grabe lang ang panahon ngayon.

I applied a 2nd layer of 476S nung Sunday, kahapon ok pa siya mag-bead, nung pagkauwi ko, super dumi, so ginamit ko lang ONR cleaning QD pang linis, yun lang ginawa ko.

Kanina namang umaga umulan mahina lang. Tapos natuyuan yung vios ng tubig ulan sa hood roof and trunk so may watermarks. Tinira ko ng ONR cleaning QD yung trunk, tanggal naman pero parang nag etch kapag pinupunasan ko ulit.

Tapos kaninang hapon nung malakas na ulan di na siya nagbebead (roof hood trunk). Super dumi ulit ngayon. Tinry ko ulit ngayon i-hose down pero wala na talaga beading.

Ang bilis mawala ng 476S ko

Di matatanggal ng ONR yang collinite. Yung Citrus Based degreaser ko nga hirap tanggaln yung collinite waxes sa applicator pads at foam pads. Baka di maganda yung pag bond ng collinite sa surface ng paint mo kaya madali matanggal di maganda kapit niya

[Chikselog]

*sir jm
Di na kasi nagbebead eh. Ang ginawa ko kasi bale nung thursday, clay + 476 + OGE. Tapos nung linggo, wash + ONR cleaning QD + 476 + OGE. Ngayong napakaputik ng kotse nag hose down ako sa hood hindi na nag-bead.

BTW masama ba yung kakamayin mo yung putik para matanggal habang tinutubigan mo?

[Reepicheep]

Are these kinds of brushes available here? Or any close substitute?

[madkatz]

How much ung OGE and ONR?

*madkatz, meron pa ba kau stock ng microtex pamunas na unsealed? I read sumwer here na masmura ung wala pa sa package and you used to distribute too...

I dunno better message PSI, i think my BF already have him a price list, and i think he still has some microtex cloths that are unsealed so you might want to check it out with him

[madkatz]

How much ung OGE and ONR?

*madkatz, meron pa ba kau stock ng microtex pamunas na unsealed? I read sumwer here na masmura ung wala pa sa package and you used to distribute too...

I dunno better message PSI, i think my BF already have him a price list, and i think he still has some microtex cloths that are unsealed so you might want to check it out with him

[madkatz]

Hi Guys & Gals,

I've been lurker here for a few months (Yes I've backread but a few pages only) and di ko na matiis at medyo naguluhan na ako sa dame ng products

For newbie like me, I'll start with Mother's product since this is the accessible product in the market.

1.)Is is ok to skip the Step 1 then apply the Step 2 & 3? Or required talaga step 1?
2.)If Step 1 is required, do I need to apply the clay? Medyo madumi kase bubong balak ko i-clay. Ano po mauna, Clay or Step 1?
3.)May interval po ba pag-apply ng mga wax? Step 1 1hr then Step 2 ...etc?
4.) How do I remove watermarks on the hood?

Sorry if my questions has been asked before, medyo naguluhan lang kase ako sa dame ng products talaga. Please if may recommend kayo yung madali lang sana hanapin and no need to order from autogeek ba yun?

Btw, I have all the materials needed for the detail, except for the buffing machine. So wax,clay,sealer&glaze na lang hanap ko.

Thanks and good day Detailers

1.)Is is ok to skip the Step 1 then apply the Step 2 & 3? Or required talaga step 1?
Yes, step 1 is usually only used 2 to 3 times a year or depending on the condition of the paint

2.)If Step 1 is required, do I need to apply the clay? Medyo madumi kase bubong balak ko i-clay. Ano po mauna, Clay or Step 1?
Clay first then step 1

3.)May interval po ba pag-apply ng mga wax? Step 1 1hr then Step 2 ...etc?
From Step 1 to Step 2 and from Step 2 to Step 3 there is no waiting time, you just need to wait for cure times which is when you want to layer waxes and sealants.

4.) How do I remove watermarks on the hood?
That depends on what kind of water marks, if its just mineral deposits you could remove them with clay, but these are the light ones that can't be removed by washing, if its already etched you might want to use a polish already for that.


Btw, I have all the materials needed for the detail, except for the buffing machine. So wax,clay,sealer&glaze na lang hanap ko.

Wax - there are a lot of good waxes out there, actually Megs, Mothers and TW makes great waxes its just that nowadays some people really prefer to spend more and get more protection for their paint thats why collinite has been making raves, but for summer time all 3 wax companies have waxes that are great for maintaining the paint its just that the recent intermittent rains can really cause unsightly watermarks on the paint especially since you can have water splat on your car and dry up, up to 3 times a day lately.

For shine TW platinum and Mothers Step 3 are good, Mothers step 3 falls a little short on after washings but its still great especially the paste version, Megs has Gold Class which is like Moms Step 3 in terms of shine being easily washed but it looks really good on black, and of course there's Megs which looks great on all colors and has hydrophobic technology and can fill swirls, this of all OTC products last the longest but is also the most expensive. Microtex have also come up with a wax and i love its filling capabilities and its shine.

For glazes if you want an easy to apply glaze then go for Moms Step 2, but if you want better results you can go for 3m IHG but i don't always recommend that because its a PITA to remove.

[madkatz]

OT lang: huhuuhu.. tumawag ako sa insurance.. yung repair ng jazz ko aabutin ng 9 days. ma-mimiss ko siya. sana sa 9 days na yun di nila i-wash ang car ko. kung hindi swirl galore na naman!

Anyhoo, after almost 2 weeks nung nagapply ako ng nano gloss then 476. napansin ko.. medyo nababawasan na yung ganda ng beading. hindi kagaya ng pag476 yung base wax ko. although baka dahil na din sa sobrang lakas ng ulan ngayong past few days. we'll see pagdating ng 4th week.

Hmmm well i could say that recently the rains are a lot more erratic so i guess it means more water spots and all that, and yeah my multiple layer of m-seal and 915 is starting to wear thing since im seeing mineral deposits on my roof and some minor water marks but then again its been months since i've waxed that thing so its also due for its quarterly sealing and waxing.

[madkatz]

sir! pa-pm naman ng price ng ONR and OGE.
interesado din ako sa optiseal. pero last time na nagpunta tayo kina sir edwin di pa niya narereview yung product.
baka di kami makapunta ni golti sa sunday.. dami naming errands.

Hi, we're still in the process of reviewing and comparing Opti-seal with KSG, Menz FMJ, M-seal and jett-seal, in terms of shine and durability, if the opti-seal proves to be very user friendly and could provide good results even if its a little lower than KSG then we might ship some over soon, but so far we have a panel left out in the rain for 1 month and its still holding up quite good, its just not as good in terms of sheeting as KSG but its still there and ease of use is a two thumbs up, you could seal you car in 30 minutes!

[madkatz]

madkatz
heavy ng ang swirl ng optra ko eh then my mga parang stains n sya ng konti.. sorry po ano po yung m20 means ung synthetic sealant po ba? ok ill use the paint polish not the glaze..

gusto ko kasi ng kalalbasan ng silver kong otto eh malalim na deep...hehe


after the clay kit pwede na agad mag apply ng ultimate compound then polish na agad diba po? yung sealant pwede po ba na 8 hours lang curing time nya? after the curing time apply n ako ng ultimate quik wax ok nga madkatz yung zaino dito sg kaso ang mahal eh.


gagamitin ko po eh yung ultimate quik wax ng megs...hehe thanks sa reply

Yes m20 is the synthetic sealant, there's a better and more durable version which is the m21, you could also opt for that. As for making silvers look deep, that would require a really well polished and finished paint to make it stand out.

Yes after clay you could start using Megs UC followed with a very mild polish to remove compounding swirls, yes 8 hours is enough based on experience when it come to Megs sealants although this is based on a sunny day hehe, if its a little rainy better stick to 24 hours cure time, and yes you could slap on UQW after but i would recommend you slap on something thats a real wax not a spray wax so that paint is protected longer.