Engine design at accessories? kaya na ba?

[jpdm]

hahaha

we get it na nga eh

magaling na nga ang pinoy

ooooKaaaay?

WE GET IT

in tagalog -- nakuha na namin

Good for you!

[ghosthunter]

Ummm..what do you think?

Because I am very sure and with certitude that I posted the reply in the Design and Research thread.

There is a big gap between realistic goals and insanely optimistic.

[jpdm]

There is a big gap between realistic goals and insanely optimistic.

Indeed.


But its better to be optimistic instead of being insanely realistic and pessimistic..

Might cause severe depression

[ghosthunter]

is that all you got ? sneer remarks because you got whooped when actually discussing about the PHUV/e-jeepney?

There is actually a term for that if you just keep on doing that?

A better person would have learned from his loses and mistakes. Would you like to be a better person?

[jpdm]

is that all you got ? sneer remarks because you got whooped when actually discussing about the PHUV/e-jeepney?

There is actually a term for that if you just keep on doing that?

A better person would have learned from his loses and mistakes. Would you like to be a better person?

What is this sneering all about?

I simply replied to the post you made.

Whooped when actually discussing about the Phuv? Who said (who judged?), you? Very objective.

A better person would have learned from his loses and mistakes? Why? Who lost? Who made mistakes?

Before asking me if I would like to be a better person, why not ask this question to yourself?

Anyway, I just made my opinion in this thread.

[jpdm]

Are Pinoys capable?

A Big Yes!

[SIZE=2]"The Filipino Can"

Mr. Ramon Castillo, President of Innovatronix, has gone a long way. Not only from his small town in Aklan to the big city, but more importantly, from a struggling electronics company in 1987 to a stable firm in less than a decade.

Innovatronix, Inc., owned and managed by Mr. Castillo, started as a single proprietorship in 1987 and was incorporated in 1991. The company produces innovative electronic products - thus the coined name Innovatronix - for consumer and industrial use. The office and factory are located in Barangay Mambugan, Antipolo, Rizal.

Consumer products currently include automatic voltage regulators (AVRs), electronic ballasts, appliance protectors from power outtages called POD (Power-On Delay), automated night switches, electronic scoreboards, electronic timers, electronic flashers and CPIS (chess piece identification system).
By 1995, the company's workforce had expanded from 40 to 80, and its sales volume had reached P30 million.

Virginia C. Abiad
ASEAN BUsiness Case Studies No. 6

Center for ASEAN Studies
Center for International Management Antwerp

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Innovatronix has managed to increase its customer base through recommendations from its existing clients. Being the only Filipino firm experienced in making electronic displays, and Innovatronix was contracted to make the scoreboards for the

Southeast Asian games held in Manila in November 1991. This big break had become the opportunity for bigger things that came. From scoreboards, Innovatronix's TRONIX brand on consumer electronic products was launched.

Up to this date, Innovatronix has reached Filipino household with its Power-on-Delay (POD10), electronic ballasts, AVRs and ACT20 for window-type air conditioners. In 1997, when the Asian financial crisis came, Innovatronix was resilient by venturing into another business concept.

This was due to the advent of digital cameras. Castillo, also a photography hobbyist, established the Tronix Imaging Centers in 1998.
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[hein]

You just mentioned Tony Tancaktiong of Jollibee...

And they went beyond just "being able (and willing) to do something (your so-called" The Pinoy Can talk") right?

you just negated your own statement.

Both TONY TANCAKTIONG's parents were born in Fujian China. He was born a Chinese citizen and has 0% Pinoy blood. He is as Chinese as MAO TSE TUNG.

Metrobank, SM, Fortune Tobaccco, PAL, Robinsons, Toyota, Jollibee, and most large businesses in the Philippines are owned by the ethnic Chinese. Because they have mastered the 2 components of SUCCESS: BEING ABLE (AND WILLING) TO DO SOMETHING and HAVING THE MEANS TO DO SOMETHING.

[jpdm]

Can the Pinoys do it?

Yes!!!

MCX Motorcycles





The market for underbone motorcycles is dominated by Japanese manufacturers, though many of them are built in factories elsewhere, including China and Taiwan. In other cases, manufacturers have violated copyright and illegally copied the models of Japanese manufacturers. The Honda Cub, Honda Wave series and Yamaha Lagenda series are amongst the most copied.


The major underbone manufacturers are as follows:-

• China: Zongshen, Lifan, LUOJIA
• Malaysia: Modenas, Momos Motor (rebadge of Cagiva), Naza Bikers rebadge of Zongshen and other China brand.
• Germany: MZ Motorrad
• India: TVS Motors (underbone versions are only available in Indonesia)
• Italy: Cagiva, Piaggio
• Japan: Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki
• [SIZE=4]Philippines MCX Motor (Phils.), Blaze Motortech, Ram Rusi[/SIZE]
• Taiwan Kymco, SYM Motors
• Thailand: Tiger Motor Co. Ltd

[jpdm]

Both TONY TANCAKTIONG's parents were born in Fujian China. He was born a Chinese citizen and has 0% Pinoy blood. He is as Chinese as MAO TSE TUNG.

Metrobank, SM, Fortune Tobaccco, PAL, Robinsons, Toyota, Jollibee, and most large businesses in the Philippines are owned by the ethnic Chinese. Because they have mastered the 2 components of SUCCESS: BEING ABLE (AND WILLING) TO DO SOMETHING and HAVING THE MEANS TO DO SOMETHING.

Tony Tan Caktiong He graduated from the University of Santo Tomas with a degree in chemical engineering.While growing up in Davao (Southern Mindanao), he and his brothers worked in their family restaurant where their father was also the chef. From his parents, they learned two basic ingredients that led to the Jollibee phenomenon -- good food and humility. After high school, Mr. Tan Caktiong moved back to Manila to pursue an engineering course at the University of Santo Tomas. Upon graduating from the university, he and his brothers applied for a franchise of Magnolia Ice Cream House.

So how do you call him Chinese Citizen?

So you based your idea of a Pinoy (despite embracing Pinoy nationality)on ethnicity?

So Rizal is not Pinoy too cause his ancestors are Chinese, Spanish and Japanese?

So all Pinoys with monosyllabic surnames are not Pinoys even if they were born, grew up and choose Filipino as their nationality here?

If I will follow you line of argument, therefore there is no such thing as American inventor or patriot?

So How do you define a Pinoy? Or an American for that matter?

[ghosthunter]

So how do you call him Chinese Citizen?

So you based your idea of a Pinoy (despite embracing Pinoy nationality)on ethnicity?

So Rizal is not Pinoy too cause his ancestors are Chinese, Spanish and Japanese?

So all Pinoys with monosyllabic surnames are not Pinoys even if they were born, grew up and choose Filipino as their nationality here?

If I will follow you line of argument, therefore there is no such thing as American inventor or patriot?

So How do you define a Pinoy? Or an American for that matter?

How can you give an opinion about how ethnic chinese living in the Philippines think, when you obviously aren't chinese?

Have you lived in their "shoes"? Do you live in their traditions and beliefs? Frankly speaking, many Filipino and Chinese values & traditions are polar opposites from each other.

[vinrem]

Tama si gh, kahit na dito pinanganak ang ibang chinese, iba pa rin ang upbringing nila compare to filipinos, medyo may konting halo na nga lang sa culture and values/tradition.

[ghosthunter]

Can the Pinoys do it?

Yes!!!

MCX Motorcycles


The market for underbone motorcycles is dominated by Japanese manufacturers, though many of them are built in factories elsewhere, including China and Taiwan. In other cases, manufacturers have violated copyright and illegally copied the models of Japanese manufacturers. The Honda Cub, Honda Wave series and Yamaha Lagenda series are amongst the most copied.


The major underbone manufacturers are as follows:-

• China: Zongshen, Lifan, LUOJIA
• Malaysia: Modenas, Momos Motor (rebadge of Cagiva), Naza Bikers rebadge of Zongshen and other China brand.
• Germany: MZ Motorrad
• India: TVS Motors (underbone versions are only available in Indonesia)
• Italy: Cagiva, Piaggio
• Japan: Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki
• [SIZE=4]Philippines MCX Motor (Phils.), Blaze Motortech, Ram Rusi[/SIZE]
• Taiwan Kymco, SYM Motors
• Thailand: Tiger Motor Co. Ltd

Sorry to burst your balloon but the local motorcycle brands are simply assemblers for parts that are sourced from abroad including China. They do not manufacture any of the major parts.

[hein]

Tama si gh, kahit na dito pinanganak ang ibang chinese, iba pa rin ang upbringing nila compare to filipinos, medyo may konting halo na nga lang sa culture and values/tradition.

The ethnic Chinese have this unwritten Code of Conduct among themselves that helps them succeed in business: ALL DEBTS MUST BE HONORED.

The failure to do so will make the debtor lose face and cause others NOT to do business with him or her. That is a fate equal to death.

That is why building up capital is much easier among the ethnic Chinese in the Philippines....and consequently, achieving SUCCESS.

[jpdm]

How can you give an opinion about how ethnic chinese living in the Philippines think, when you obviously aren't chinese?

Have you lived in their "shoes"? Do you live in their traditions and beliefs? Frankly speaking, many Filipino and Chinese values & traditions are polar opposites from each other.

Do I have to be a Chinese to know how they think? Do I really have to "live in their shoes?" Do I have to believe in their traditions and beliefs to know them? Are these the only methods of knowing them?

Do you know that there many ways of knowing things aside from what you are talking about?

Now, you are not saying that all Pinoys who have Chinese ancestry are not Filipinos?

You are a distinct race?

So how do you define a Pinoy?

Now, with all this arguments of yours, should I now doubt Rizal, Pres. Cory and Cecilio Pedro the Filipino-ness of these people?

[niky]

Sorry to burst your balloon but the local motorcycle brands are simply assemblers for parts that are sourced from abroad including China. They do not manufacture any of the major parts.

Actually, though MCX buys parts from China, they design their own motorcycles and are proud of the individuality of their designs compared to some others which merely copycat.

But sadly, for those who want everything done in the Philippines, the manufacturing of their subcomponents is farmed out to contractors in China, and the engines are Chinese units that they buy whole. (though they do in-house R&D for their racing engines).

[jpdm]

The ethnic Chinese have this unwritten Code of Conduct among themselves that helps them succeed in business: ALL DEBTS MUST BE HONORED.

The failure to do so will make the debtor lose face and cause others NOT to do business with him or her. That is a fate equal to death.

That is why building up capital is much easier among the ethnic Chinese in the Philippines....and consequently, achieving SUCCESS.

So, you are saying and generalizing that Chinese honor their debts and "ethnic Pinoys" dont honor their debts?

[ghosthunter]

Do I have to be a Chinese to know how they think?

In this case, yes you do because you just demonstrated that you have no clue how the filipino-chinese people think and feel.

Do I really have to "live in their shoes?"

What is better to know how someone experiences their lives? ... Can you experience "hardship" or "hardwork" by simple casual observation? Can you experience "motivation" by plain observation from random chance?

Of course not!

Do I have to believe in their traditions and beliefs to know them?

YES! This is part of a person's motivations and background on how and why decides in certain ways.

Are these the only methods of knowing them?

Do you know that there many ways of knowing things aside from what you are talking about?

No but obviously you don't know the other methods either because as I have mentioned, your previously posted statement demonstrates how clueless you are about the topic "filipino-chinese".

[ghosthunter]

Here is a message that was sent to me by someone who wants to remain anonymous:

This "jpdm" guy is so utterly stupid!

He has totally no idea how the Chinese-Filipinos in the Philippines think and feel.

The reason why most Chinese-Filipinos here have a higher standard of living than most Filipino "pinoys" is because of how Chinese-Filipinos people view things (example: money and work), make decisions and make choices that affect their future.

Filipinos or "pinoys" fail to improve their standard of living because they have a "defective" way of viewing things and they keep on making the wrong decisions and keep making bad choices in life that further destroy their future, which, in the first place, is caused by their defective way of viewing things

This "jpdm" guy is living in a fantasy world.

[jpdm]

How can you give an opinion about how ethnic chinese living in the Philippines think, when you obviously aren't chinese?

Have you lived in their "shoes"? Do you live in their traditions and beliefs? Frankly speaking, many Filipino and Chinese values & traditions are polar opposites from each other.

The ethnic Chinese have this unwritten Code of Conduct among themselves that helps them succeed in business: ALL DEBTS MUST BE HONORED.

The failure to do so will make the debtor lose face and cause others NOT to do business with him or her. That is a fate equal to death.

That is why building up capital is much easier among the ethnic Chinese in the Philippines....and consequently, achieving SUCCESS.

Following the "logic" of GH, are you a Chinese to know their code of Conduct? How come you know alot about the Chinese?

Now, you two, are you equating success based on ethnicity or the purity of a nationality's ethnic background?

So, in order words, "ethnic Pinoys" can never succeed like me GH as you strong pointed out because I dont even have a drop of Chinese blood?

Are you saying the Chinese are superior that brown Pinoys or native Pinoys?

So, the native Pinoys like me should rewrite history and delete from the list Rizal, Aguinaldo, Pres. Cory, Lopez clan of ABS-CBN because they are not Pinoys but Chinese?

[ghosthunter]

Now, you are not saying that all Pinoys who have Chinese ancestry are not Filipinos?

You are a distinct race?

Filipinos only by citizenship. Culturally, chinese-filipinos are distinct.

So how do you define a Pinoy?

Not my problem. Do your assignment.

Now, with all this arguments of yours, should I now doubt Rizal, Pres. Cory and Cecilio Pedro the Filipino-ness of these people?

Yes and No. It is NOT your place to label people on how they view themselves culturally and ethnically. Once you are trying to label people without their consent, you are already on your way to the "R" word.