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[jpdm]

Here is a message that was sent to me by someone who wants to remain anonymous:

Although I find it unfair because Im actually highlighting how Chinese-Filipinos and Filipino-Chinese build this country.

From Rizal to Lopez family to Pres. Aquino to Cecilio K. Pedro, they have without doubt had made tremendous impact on Philippine history and development.

[ghosthunter]

So, in order words, "ethnic Pinoys" can never succeed like me GH as you strong pointed out because I dont even have a drop of Chinese blood?

Are you saying the Chinese are superior that brown Pinoys or native Pinoys?

Careful of the "ethnic slurs".

In some ways, the chinese-filipinos have an advantage over the filipinos in some areas like business. But not because they have money. In fact, the original chinese who immigrated here didn't have much money. Where they excelled is how they would make business, how they would save and re-invest the money for their own future and the future of their children.

The chinese tend to take the long view as compared to the filipinos who tend to be more laid back. The saying "Diyos na ang bahala" typically points out that filipinos prefer to leave their lives more to fate.

So, the native Pinoys like me should rewrite history and delete from the list Rizal, Aguinaldo, Pres. Cory, Lopez clan of ABS-CBN because they are not Pinoys but Chinese?

Up to you. You could probably also include the spanish families as well while you're at it.

[jpdm]

Filipinos only by citizenship. Culturally, chinese-filipinos are distinct.

Then, I do you call a Chinese with Filipino citizenship? Chinese citizen or Chinese national?

If an ethnic Chinese has Filipino citizenship, will he put in certain documents that he is Chinese and not Filipino?

How about Chinese born and raised in the Philippines from Chinese parents who are naturalized Filipinos?

Not my problem. Do your assignment.

Why not you do yours?Seems to me you have a very limited understanding of what is a Filipino.

Yes and No. It is NOT your place to label people on how they view themselves culturally and ethnically. Once you are trying to label people without their consent, you are already on your way to the "R" word.

Do you know the word "label?" Perhaps you dont know. Because I never labelled a person in this discussion.

Problem with you is that you keep on coming up with false conclusions.

[ghosthunter]

^^^

Talk about people arriving at the wrong conclusions. :bwahaha::bwahaha::bwahaha:

[hein]

Careful of the "ethnic slurs".

In some ways, the chinese-filipinos have an advantage over the filipinos in some areas like business. But not because they have money. In fact, the original chinese who immigrated here didn't have much money. Where they excelled is how they would make business, how they would save and re-invest the money for their own future and the future of their children.

The chinese tend to take the long view as compared to the filipinos who tend to be more laid back. The saying "Diyos na ang bahala" typically points out that filipinos prefer to leave their lives more to fate.

Add to that the Confucian edict of the importance of EDUCATION. The ethnic Chinese would sacrifice personal luxuries to send their children to the best school they can afford. Thereby perpetuating their standard of living.

In contrast, school DROP-OUT rate among the Filipinos is staggering. Of every 100 children who enter Grade 1, only 65 reach Grade 6, only 43 finish high school and only 2 enter college.

[jpdm]

Filipinos only by citizenship. Culturally, chinese-filipinos are distinct.

But they are still Filipinos by nationality, right? Pinoys too.I guess you dont understand the word nationality. By the way, are you a Chinese or Filipino?

Because I have friends that are Filipinos of Chinese descent but dont think the way you think. They are culturally very Chinese but they always say they are proudly Pinoy.

[quote]

Careful of the "ethnic slurs".

It all started when Im INSISTING that the owners of Jollibee especially Mr. Tancaktiong as an exemplary example of the idea that the "Filipino can."

And yet hein and you made a distinction between a Chinese and err..what a "native Pinoy"? You even compared and differentiated an ethnic Chinese and "Pinoy."

It only shows that whoever made an ethnic slur here, its you and hein. No one else. You created your own ghost and now you are afraid of it?

In some ways, the chinese-filipinos have an advantage over the filipinos in some areas like business. But not because they have money. In fact, the original chinese who immigrated here didn't have much money. Where they excelled is how they would make business, how they would save and re-invest the money for their own future and the future of their children.

I never contested this. Even if the Chinese constitute only less than 1% of the Philippine population and around 10% of the Pinoys with mixed Chinese-"native blood", its really remarkable that Fil-Chinese has dominated Philippine Industry and Commerce and definitely well-off compared to "native Pinoys" like me.

But, then again. These statements show your racial bias right? Therefore you are making ethnic slurs here.

The chinese tend to take the long view as compared to the filipinos who tend to be more laid back. The saying "Diyos na ang bahala" typically points out that filipinos prefer to leave their lives more to fate.

Now, are you implying that native Pinoys like me and ethnic Chinese like you are better in terms of onlook in life?

Is this another ethnic slur towards Pinoys (who are not ethnic Chinese) but became successful in life?

Up to you. You could probably also include the spanish families as well while you're at it.

Now, look who's talking. The very guy who made a distinction between a Pinoys with Chinese ethnic background and Pinoys without Chinese blood.

And there is no other else but you.:bwahaha::bwahaha:

Just my opinion.

[jpdm]

Add to that the Confucian edict of the importance of EDUCATION. The ethnic Chinese would sacrifice personal luxuries to send their children to the best school they can afford. Thereby perpetuating their standard of living.

In contrast, school DROP-OUT rate among the Filipinos is staggering. Of every 100 children who enter Grade 1, only 65 reach Grade 6, only 43 finish high school and only 2 enter college.

I think "ethnic Pinoys" too do this thing?

By the way, are you talking about Pinoys with Chinese descent? Or Chinese in other countries?

How come your statements refers to Filipinos? Are you not a Pinoy to make this type of discriminating statements?

Btw, you have not answered by question yet. It seems you just dont know the answer.

[jpdm]

In this case, yes you do because you just demonstrated that you have no clue how the filipino-chinese people think and feel.

What are you talking about?

I have no clue of how Fil-chinese people think and feel? How did you know?Another out of this word conclusion.

By the way, have you asked my to demostrate how the Filipino-chinese people think and feel. Definitely no. So, why should I and how can I demostrate it here?

Plain and simply you did not get my point. You said I should be a Chinese, to know what a Chinese think and feel. I said there are other ways. To enlighten you, I can use primary and secondary sources. Observations or interviews (respondents like Fil-Chinese friends, co-workers and acquaintances) or documentary analysis. Have you taken research in college?

What is better to know how someone experiences their lives? ... Can you experience "hardship" or "hardwork" by simple casual observation? Can you experience "motivation" by plain observation from random chance?
Of course not!

You answered your own question. Thanks.

For the record, I never questioned these things.

All I said is that MR. Tancaktiong and his Jolibee Food Corp is an example of the saying "The Filipino Can." Thats it.

Now, you started to show your bias against us "native Pinoys" and I have no way of knowing a Chinese (like you) how they feel and think despite the fact that personally I have Fil-Chinese friends, kumpare and co-workers (with surnames Gan, Tan, Uy, Chan, Chua, Go to name a few.They are long-time friends (college)and co-workers)

YES! This is part of a person's motivations and background on how and why decides in certain ways.

No but obviously you don't know the other methods either because as I have mentioned, your previously posted statement demonstrates how clueless you are about the topic "filipino-chinese".

[jpdm]

In this case, yes you do because you just demonstrated that you have no clue how the filipino-chinese people think and feel.

What are you talking about?

I have no clue of how Fil-chinese people think and feel? How did you know?Another out of this word conclusion.

By the way, have you asked my to demostrate how the Filipino-chinese people think and feel. Definitely no. So, why should I and how can I demostrate it here?

Plain and simply you did not get my point. You said I should be a Chinese, to know what a Chinese think and feel. I said there are other ways. To enlighten you, I can use primary and secondary sources. Observations or interviews (respondents like Fil-Chinese friends, co-workers and acquaintances) or documentary analysis. Have you taken research in college?

What is better to know how someone experiences their lives? ... Can you experience "hardship" or "hardwork" by simple casual observation? Can you experience "motivation" by plain observation from random chance?
Of course not!

You answered your own question. Thanks.

For the record, I never questioned these things.

All I said is that MR. Tancaktiong and his Jolibee Food Corp is an example of the saying "The Filipino Can." Thats it.

Now, you started to show your bias against us "native Pinoys" and I have no way of knowing a Chinese (like you) how they feel and think despite the fact that personally I have Fil-Chinese friends, kumpare and co-workers (with surnames Gan, Tan, Uy, Chan, Chua, Go to name a few.They are long-time friends (college)and co-workers)

YES! This is part of a person's motivations and background on how and why decides in certain ways.

No but obviously you don't know the other methods either because as I have mentioned, your previously posted statement demonstrates how clueless you are about the topic "filipino-chinese".

[jpdm]

In this case, yes you do because you just demonstrated that you have no clue how the filipino-chinese people think and feel.

What are you talking about?

I have no clue of how Fil-chinese people think and feel? How did you know?Another out of this world conclusion?

By the way, have you asked me to demonstrate how the Filipino-chinese people think and feel? Definitely no. So, why should I and how can I demonstrate it here?

Plain and simply you did not get my point. You said I should be a Chinese and I have t wear their shoes, to know what a Chinese think and feel. I said there are other ways. To enlighten you, I can use primary and secondary sources. First, I can simply ask them. Second, through observations or interviews (respondents like Fil-Chinese friends, co-workers and acquaintances) or documentary analysis. Have you taken research in college?

What is better to know how someone experiences their lives? ... Can you experience "hardship" or "hardwork" by simple casual observation? Can you experience "motivation" by plain observation from random chance?
Of course not!

You answered your own question. Thanks.

Do you know the methodology called phenomenology? Gosh, you have to review research.

For the record, regarding hardship and hardwork, Chinese and native Pinoys (like me) alike experince the same thing. So, I never questioned these things.

In the first place, All I said is that MR. Tancaktiong and his Jolibee Food Corp is an example of the saying "The Filipino Can." Thats it.

Now, you started to show your bias against us "native Pinoys" and you said I have no way of knowing a Chinese (like you) how they feel and think despite the fact that personally I have Fil-Chinese friends, kumpare and co-workers (with surnames Gan, Tan, Uy, Chan, Chua, Go to name a few.They are long-time friends (college)and colleagues)

YES! This is part of a person's motivations and background on how and why decides in certain ways.

No but obviously you don't know the other methods either because as I have mentioned, your previously posted statement demonstrates how clueless you are about the topic "filipino-chinese".

Im clueless, based on your opinion? Od course not and your dead wrong. As if Fil-Chinese in the Philippines live in a different world and I have no way of knowing or co-exist with them.

Now, you keep on making very wrong conclusion about what I know. And there is a big difference between what I really know and what you think and imagine that I know.

Dont rely too much on your idea of reality. Its dangerous.

By the way, I thought you base your idea on reality. It seems you also like to imagine things.

And an advice, read carefully all my posts and stop making out of the line generalizations.

Just my opinion.

[jpdm]

Add to that the Confucian edict of the importance of EDUCATION. The ethnic Chinese would sacrifice personal luxuries to send their children to the best school they can afford. Thereby perpetuating their standard of living.

Maybe you are not a Pinoy because you are clueless as to how "native Pinoys" Fil-Chinese and Chinese do the same thing.

In contrast, school DROP-OUT rate among the Filipinos is staggering. Of every 100 children who enter Grade 1, only 65 reach Grade 6, only 43 finish high school and only 2 enter college.

With this data, I really suspect if you really have a firm grasp of reality or logic.

So you are implying here that this situation ( education) in the Philippines is caused by ethnicity and ethnic background and not because of a more realistic reason like poverty and skewed income distribution?

From what planet did you get this idea?

[marg]

This "jpdm" guy is so utterly stupid!

He has totally no idea how the Chinese-Filipinos in the Philippines think and feel.

The reason why most Chinese-Filipinos here have a higher standard of living than most Filipino "pinoys" is because of how Chinese-Filipinos people view things (example: money and work), make decisions and make choices that affect their future.

Filipinos or "pinoys" fail to improve their standard of living because they have a "defective" way of viewing things and they keep on making the wrong decisions and keep making bad choices in life that further destroy their future, which, in the first place, is caused by their defective way of viewing things

This "jpdm" guy is living in a fantasy world.

Jpdm, you talk too much......but say too little.

OT ka na.

[niky]

Why not you do yours?Seems to me you have a very limited understanding of what is a Filipino.

What is a Filipino? The Malay-descended Tagalogs steeped in Spanish culture? The Aetas who were here long before us? The pure Malay Muslims of the south? The current mixed-race citizens of Manila, with various strains of Malay, Chinese, American, Japanese, Indian, etcetera? The nearly pure-blooded Chinese community, whom the Spanish forced to change their names and lose their heritage?

I'm 1/2 Filipino, 1/4 Japanese, 1/8th Irish, 1/8th German and probably a tiny bit Chinese somewhere in there. But my citizenship is Filipino American... yet I have not a trace of Native American or Pilgrim blood. Are you going to tell me who I am? If I were to do something great with my life... should I shout: "Yes, the Filipino can!", "Yes, an American can" or "Yes, the mulatto can!"... because I'm certainly no pure-bred, any way you slice it.

Do you know the word "label?" Perhaps you dont know. Because I never labelled a person in this discussion.

Oh, really...

You're the only one in this thread who made this distinction...

Are you saying the Chinese are superior that brown Pinoys or native Pinoys?

And as a brown Pinoy with only 1/4th Japanese heritage and probably 1/12th Chinese blood... I'm insulted by your words. You ought to be careful of what you say or us brownies is gonna get you!

Problem with you is that you keep on coming up with false conclusions.

You're the one so hung up on being pure Filipino. GH was only pointing out that your example of "Yes, the Filipino Can" is a tsinoy... Tsinoys have a very insular culture, and their own unique identity. They can class themselves as whatever they want to... you cannot claim their heritage for your own.

I laugh whenever somebody says "American as Pizza Pie" or some fellow American claims how great America is because of what was invented there... without knowing that the inventors of such things were transplanted Germans, Jews, French, various other Europeans... whatever...

Or when they take great pride in the wealth of American culture and finance... culture forwarded by Italians, African-Americans, and the like... and a finance industry driven by the hardworking Jewish bankers.

Living vicariously through the success of others is a pretty uninspired way to live. Just because Pacquiao / Pempengco / whoever achieves something is not a reason for me to be proud of myself. It's their accomplishment... I'm proud for them... but I cannot claim their pride as my own.

Why do we always say: "Yes, the Filipino can!" and point to other people? Shouldn't we be saying: "Yes, the Filipino can!"... and pointing at ourselves? ;)

[ghosthunter]

From what planet did you get this idea?

From the planet earth... how about you?... from which dimension did you get your logic from?

[ghosthunter]

Jpdm, you talk too much......but say too little.

+1,000,000

[ghosthunter]

I have no clue of how Fil-chinese people think and feel? How did you know?Another out of this world conclusion?

Look on this thread, I don't seem to see anyone else having your same "opinion".

By the way, have you asked me to demonstrate how the Filipino-chinese people think and feel? Definitely no. So, why should I and how can I demonstrate it here?

From what you have already posted, you have demonstrated enough.

Plain and simply you did not get my point.

Plain and simple. You don't have a point to stand on.

You said I should be a Chinese and I have t wear their shoes, to know what a Chinese think and feel. I said there are other ways. To enlighten you, I can use primary and secondary sources. First, I can simply ask them. Second, through observations or interviews (respondents like Fil-Chinese friends, co-workers and acquaintances) or documentary analysis.

So you say you can learn a culture from a book and few answered questions? Is the "pinoy" culture just as shallow to be condensed into a book and a few sentences?

For the record, regarding hardship and hardwork, Chinese and native Pinoys (like me) alike experince the same thing. So, I never questioned these things.

Two people can do the same tasks but they experience differently what they do.

In the first place, All I said is that MR. Tancaktiong and his Jolibee Food Corp is an example of the saying "The Filipino Can." Thats it.

That is called "marketing" and good public relations.

Now, you started to show your bias against us "native Pinoys" and you said I have no way of knowing a Chinese (like you) how they feel and think despite the fact that personally I have Fil-Chinese friends, kumpare and co-workers (with surnames Gan, Tan, Uy, Chan, Chua, Go to name a few.They are long-time friends (college)and colleagues)

Having fil-chi friends is NOT the same as being one.

I dare you to let them (your fil-chi friends) read this thread.

Im clueless, based on your opinion? Od course not and your dead wrong. As if Fil-Chinese in the Philippines live in a different world and I have no way of knowing or co-exist with them.

Based on your own answers and previous posts and the growing reaction of other people on this thread against your opinions, yes, it seems you are clueless.

Dont rely too much on your idea of reality. Its dangerous.

I find it so ironic that you would be the one saying that.

[ghosthunter]

[foifoi05]

:popcorn:

teka lang mga bossing, mag CR muna ako at bili pa ulit ng popcorn hehe

[ghosthunter]

:popcorn:

teka lang mga bossing, mag CR muna ako at bili pa ulit ng popcorn hehe

Make sure it's the extra-extra big bag of popcorn.

[ocanursjr]

Indeed.


But its better to be optimistic instead of being insanely realistic and pessimistic..

Might cause severe depression

+ 1... Always think positive