CVT or Standard AT?

**dr. d** · August 14th, 2014 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by rickymartin

May issue pala siya sa mga lancer. Mga modern car kasi mga naka CVT, Altis sana kaso CVT rin. SUV naman hindi afford ng budget kapag plus maintenance na.

in truth, that's not a lancer issue. that's a tuner issue.
one has to know the capabilities of one's tools..

**Walter** · August 14th, 2014 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

if by maintaining traditional AT and CVT, you mean ATF, then i suppose it's about the same maintenance..
ano pa ba ang puede nating gawin sa mga 'yan? as far as i know, it's "no user-serviceable parts inside".
abuse? nothing automotive is abuse-proof..
heh heh.

Take note that CVT fluids are different from ATF. You don't use ATF for CVT transmissions.

**rickymartin** · August 14th, 2014 11:21 AM

^
Anong fluid ginagamit sa CVT?

**oj88** · August 14th, 2014 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by rickymartin

^
Anong fluid ginagamit sa CVT?

CVT-F.

Whether you have a traditional A/T or CVT, use the proper OEM fluids like its your religion.

**JohnM** · August 14th, 2014 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

in truth, that's not a lancer issue. that's a tuner issue.
one has to know the capabilities of one's tools..

Exactly. The power output it was asked to handle was way above what it was designed for.

My ex-boss's Cedia CVT didn't give him any tranny problems. It was daily driven between Sucat and Makati until they sold it to a relative last year. No reported issues pa rin since then.

**niky** · August 14th, 2014 02:27 PM

One should also note that "regular" automatic transmissions also have a maximum torque handling capability. If you put twice stock power output through a standard automatic, it will definitely fail. Some automatics start slipping after you've only added seventy to a hundred horses more.

The tuner's job is to give the client what he wants. If he wants more power, damn the transmission... that's what he gets. But in any turbo tuning or install, new clutches, or, with a torque converter automatic, an upgraded torque converter and clutch packs, are a very, very good idea.

**lowslowbenz** · August 14th, 2014 03:38 PM

I would prefer the standard AT.

**Walter** · August 14th, 2014 03:49 PM

Mitsubishi Strada VGT M/T produces 400 Nm of torque while the A/T model is tweaked to produce 350 Nm only albeit at a wider range because the transmission can't handle it.

**tr1ck5h07** · August 14th, 2014 03:57 PM

2 years ago, I made a decision to go for standard AT given the choice between that and a CVT. The choice was between a Forester (AT) and an XV (CVT) and I went with standard AT because I knew that it was proven (I've had ATs in the past that didn't give me any problems) and the maintenance costs were lower for the standard AT.

It seems that CVT has proven to be more reliable recently and I would not hesitate to go for one when I purchase my next car in about 3-4 years.

**rickymartin** · August 14th, 2014 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by tr1ck5h07

2 years ago, I made a decision to go for standard AT given the choice between that and a CVT. The choice was between a Forester (AT) and an XV (CVT) and I went with standard AT because I knew that it was proven (I've had ATs in the past that didn't give me any problems) and the maintenance costs were lower for the standard AT.

It seems that CVT has proven to be more reliable recently and I would not hesitate to go for one when I purchase my next car in about 3-4 years.

Sabagay, matagal-tagal na rin naman lumabas 'yung CVT, siguro naman na ayos na 'yung mga issue.

Might go now with Corolla Altis or Lancer EX GT-A.