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    Hi guys,

    Is there a general traffic rule or law about inner lanes MUST take a U-TURN or does it have to have a sign that says INNERMOST LANE MUST TAKE U-TURN?

    The street is a 3-laner.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS View Post
    Hi guys,

    Is there a general traffic rule or law about inner lanes MUST take a U-TURN or does it have to have a sign that says INNERMOST LANE MUST TAKE U-TURN?

    The street is a 3-laner.

    Thanks
    if it is not forbidden, it is allowed.
    if it is not specifically ordered, it may not be performed.
    what does the road signage say?

    but there are rules on common sense. while one may not get a ticket for not following these common sense rules, one may still get a fender bender.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 24th, 2019 at 10:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if it is not forbidden, it is allowed.
    if it is not specifically ordered, it may not be performed.
    what does the road signage say?

    but there are rules on common sense. while one may not get a ticket for not following these common sense rules, one may still get a fender bender.
    Spot on dr d. Short, sweet, simple.

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    Not sure about the law on these things but in general I keep to the center lane until a few hundred meters when I need to turn to avoid getting a ticket. Then I merge into the right lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if it is not forbidden, it is allowed.
    if it is not specifically ordered, it may not be performed.
    what does the road signage say?

    but there are rules on common sense. while one may not get a ticket for not following these common sense rules, one may still get a fender bender.
    ditto
    andaming intersection na ang nasa middle lane kumakaliwa or kumakanan. tawag ko dito mga manlalamang [emoji23][emoji28]

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    There are intersections with signs that say "left lane must turn left" and if you are in this lane and you go straight you will get a ticket. On u-turn slots i have not seen one that says "this lane MUST take a u-turn" but at the 2 u-turn slots between muņoz market and sm north i have seen cars ticketed for being in those lanes then going straight even though there are no signages to warn drivers.

    Why, did you get a ticket?

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    Most of the time, not always, road arrows tells you what you're allowed or not allowed to do on a lane.



    These signs, of course, are self-explanatory. If you wiggle out of it at the last moment, you will get apprehended.




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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Most of the time, not always, road arrows tells you what you're allowed or not allowed to do on a lane.



    These signs, of course, are self-explanatory. If you wiggle out of it at the last moment, you will get apprehended.



    Sobrang labo niyan 1st pic kasi marami sign sa Makati yung first arrow pwede left turn and straight tapos sa next arrow naging straight nalang. Kaya minsan takaw-huli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Most of the time, not always, road arrows tells you what you're allowed or not allowed to do on a lane.



    These signs, of course, are self-explanatory. If you wiggle out of it at the last moment, you will get apprehended.
    these surface signs are easy to see, if there's no traffic.
    impossible to see, if traffic is bumper to bumper.
    woe to the stranger to the area...

    there's one such at the leftmost lane on northbound taft avenue, before p faura. daytime traffic there is usually bumper to bumper.
    one arrowhead going straight, and one turning left.
    naninita the TEs those on that lane who go straight. i can not believe the TEs do not know such surface signage exists there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    There are intersections with signs that say "left lane must turn left" and if you are in this lane and you go straight you will get a ticket. On u-turn slots i have not seen one that says "this lane MUST take a u-turn" but at the 2 u-turn slots between muņoz market and sm north i have seen cars ticketed for being in those lanes then going straight even though there are no signages to warn drivers.

    Why, did you get a ticket?
    Yeah you're right, there are no signs that leftmost lane must take a U TURN. There are signs though that says U TURN slot.

    I got into a traffic incident wherein the vehicle in the innermost lane went straight ahead and its front right fender got scraped by my car. It is a 3 laner, and the 2nd lane is always allowed to take U TURN, I say this because I take this route everyday.

    The police investigator is purely looking at who hits who and no interest whatsoever in apprehending the other driver for driving straight while on a U TURN slot.

    And by the way, the other vehicle's LTO OR is expired. But again the police investigator seems not interested at this either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS View Post
    Yeah you're right, there are no signs that leftmost lane must take a U TURN. There are signs though that says U TURN slot.

    I got into a traffic incident wherein the vehicle in the innermost lane went straight ahead and its front right fender got scraped by my car. It is a 3 laner, and the 2nd lane is always allowed to take U TURN, I say this because I take this route everyday.

    The police investigator is purely looking at who hits who and no interest whatsoever in apprehending the other driver for driving straight while on a U TURN slot.

    And by the way, the other vehicle's LTO OR is expired. But again the police investigator seems not interested at this either.
    Just let your insurance do the "talking" na lang.

    Ganyan talaga sa Pilipinas.

    Pulis ba talaga?

    Or Traffic enforcer?

    Iba kasi dumiskarte kung Pulis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PATSYS View Post
    Hi guys,

    Is there a general traffic rule or law about inner lanes MUST take a U-TURN or does it have to have a sign that says INNERMOST LANE MUST TAKE U-TURN?

    The street is a 3-laner.

    Thanks
    No such thing unless a traffic sign instructs it.

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    Ah gets ko na. So when you see the two headed arrow akala mo pwede left and straight pero sa unahan, straight na lang.

    In reality, yang 2 lanes pinapayagan mag left to paseo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Ah gets ko na. So when you see the two headed arrow akala mo pwede left and straight pero sa unahan, straight na lang.

    In reality, yang 2 lanes pinapayagan mag left to paseo.

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    pero if the middle lane goes straight, hinuhuli nila LM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    pero if the middle lane goes straight, hinuhuli nila LM
    Huh. Bakit nila huhulihin???

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    Ibig sabihin kasi nung double headed arrow is that you van change lane on the left if you want to go left. pero you have to do it before the solid line kaya nakalagay siya dun sa may broken lines, pag nasa solid line na you cannot change lane. Pag hinuli ka going straight on the second most lane pwede na i contest. Ang mali is turning left sa second lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gongrhey View Post
    Ibig sabihin kasi nung double headed arrow is that you van change lane on the left if you want to go left. pero you have to do it before the solid line kaya nakalagay siya dun sa may broken lines, pag nasa solid line na you cannot change lane. Pag hinuli ka going straight on the second most lane pwede na i contest. Ang mali is turning left sa second lane.
    Nah. Better kung wala na lang as it is redundant and presents an ambiguous sign that THAT lane can go straight AND turn left... and then change state to a straight-only lane just a few meters ahead. That's bound to cause confusion nga... even accidents.

    So, to summarize, I see three possible improvements:

    1. Remove the two-headed arrow
    2. Move it further back 30 meters
    3. Change the straight-only arrow on Lane 1 to a double-headed arrow (Left turn + Straight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    Nah. Better kung wala na lang as it is redundant and presents an ambiguous sign that THAT lane can go straight AND turn left... and then change state to a straight-only lane just a few meters ahead. That's bound to cause confusion nga... even accidents.

    So, to summarize, I see three possible improvements:

    1. Remove the two-headed arrow
    2. Move it further back 30 meters
    3. Change the straight-only arrow on Lane 1 to a double-headed arrow (Left turn + Straight)
    Agree na confusing nga and on your suggestion to move it further back para mas better ang anticipation. Kung meron din sana sign board sa taas before the intersection same sa other countries na kita mo na agad kung saan ka ppwesto much better.

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    On a regular rush hour, minsan umaabot hanggang flyover traffic diyan. So kung yung innermost most lane lang ang papayagan magleft, good luck naman. I used to always make pila for that left lane kasi yoko nga mahuli. Pero I noticed yang 2 lanes pinapayagan nila magleft. Yung mga going straight, dun sila sa 2 other lanes sa right.

    This wasn't confusing to me kasi nga siguro habit ko to take the innermost/outermost lane when making a turn.

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