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    #221
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    dyan mahina ang pinoy.. PLANNING and IMPLEMENTATION... ang masakit sa PLANNING pa lang bokya na...

    tong si isko nuknukan ng kabobohan eh... you don't ban the bus... what they need to have is a SYSTEM and DISCIPLINE...

    eto for example..

    ayusin yung ruta ng bus.. say may 10 bus ka...yung 4 byahe fairview diretso quiapo non stop ito at sa quiapo na ang babaan, tapos yung 4 fairview to rotonda lang non stop din.. tapos yung 2 mag babaybay sa ruta pero may linya sa gilid at hindi sila pwede lumabas dun... tapos implement discipline...

    alisin na yung mga bus na small time operator lang... yung mga jeep na bulok alisin na din

    dapat kasi ni review nila ulet with LTFRB yung mga franchise at bus routes... LGU din naman ang nagrequest sa LTFRB ng mga franchise na yan eh

    tapos along the way


    sa LTRFB website, sa kanilang downloadable form mababasa mo ito.

    Location map and picture with dimension of garage with TCT/Tax declaration or Contract
    of Lease with specific garage area


    Ang tanong, kung ung mga bus na binawalan pumasok ng manila ay meron nito, illegal ang ginawa ni isko.

    Pero, kung nagbigay ang LTRFB ng prangkisa at wala naman specific garage ung mga bus, illegal ang ginawa ng LTFRB sa pag issue ng prangkisa.

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    #222
    Naawa lang ako sa mga senior citizen lalo na galing south dahil mahihirapan sila sa palipat-lipat na sakayan ngayon.

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    #223
    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    Real bombs such as unexploded ordnance? Wow! Now I'd like to see some up close.

    OT:

    Sir, ung bombs sa quezon bridge e wag mo na tignan, kahit 10meters ang layo mo maamoy mo na..

    try ko lang kung makita nyo sa picture, ito ung structure sa right side ng jeep.. ung meron passageway

    http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...m/31066195.jpg

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    #224
    ^

    LTFRB only requires a "garage".
    So kung Taytay-Quiapo bus franchise ina-applyan ko, and may "garage" ako somewhere not along that route (example, sa Angono), pasado na sa LTFRB? No wonder ganito sitwasyon ng public transportation sa atin.

    Sa ibang related na balita...

    Will Pasay also implement a bus ban? | ABS-CBN News

    Naloko na...

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    #225
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    dyan mahina ang pinoy.. PLANNING and IMPLEMENTATION... ang masakit sa PLANNING pa lang bokya na...

    tong si isko nuknukan ng kabobohan eh... you don't ban the bus... what they need to have is a SYSTEM and DISCIPLINE...

    eto for example..

    ayusin yung ruta ng bus.. say may 10 bus ka...yung 4 byahe fairview diretso quiapo non stop ito at sa quiapo na ang babaan, tapos yung 4 fairview to rotonda lang non stop din.. tapos yung 2 mag babaybay sa ruta pero may linya sa gilid at hindi sila pwede lumabas dun... tapos implement discipline...

    alisin na yung mga bus na small time operator lang... yung mga jeep na bulok alisin na din

    dapat kasi ni review nila ulet with LTFRB yung mga franchise at bus routes... LGU din naman ang nagrequest sa LTFRB ng mga franchise na yan eh

    tapos along the way
    hindi marunong magplan o corrupt lang talaga? Corruption ang puno't dulo nyan. Kanina sa GMA News TV, yan ang topic. Umaapila daw ang LTFRB, labag nga naman daw sa batas yun ban nila Erap. Ang Sagot ni Susan? Bakit ang bilis bilis nyo umapila sa solusyon ni Erap sa trapiko, e yung mga kolorum na bus at jeep ang tagal ng problema, di nyo masolusyonan?

    Bakit nga ba? Simple, may mga nakikinabang sa loob nyan e. Bigay prankisa, lagay. Renew, lagay. Nak ng botsa yan, walang pag-asa, kasi ang kabulukan nasa loob ng sistema mismo

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    #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    sa LTRFB website, sa kanilang downloadable form mababasa mo ito.

    Location map and picture with dimension of garage with TCT/Tax declaration or Contract
    of Lease with specific garage area


    Ang tanong, kung ung mga bus na binawalan pumasok ng manila ay meron nito, illegal ang ginawa ni isko.

    Pero, kung nagbigay ang LTRFB ng prangkisa at wala naman specific garage ung mga bus, illegal ang ginawa ng LTFRB sa pag issue ng prangkisa.
    ang sabi nila isko pwede pumasok sa manila yung mga bus na may terminal sa loob ng manila pero hindi sila pwede mag sakay at baba along the way sa terminal lang... \

    yung LTFRB nag require ng garage.. hindi terminal so possible na meron lahat garage yan mga bus pero wala mga terminal like victory liner

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    #227
    JV Ejercito blames LTFRB for metro traffic | ABS-CBN News

    JV Ejercito blames LTFRB for metro traffic
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    Posted at 07/26/2013 1:55 AM | Updated as of 07/26/2013 1:57 AM

    MANILA, Philippines - Senator JV Ejercito on Friday accused the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board (LTFRB) of being behind the traffic problem in Metro Manila.

    Ejercito said the LTFRB issued bus franchises indiscriminately for years.


    "There was a moratorium years ago on bus franchises on EDSA but new buses were able to ply EDSA even after the ban, how come LTFRB?," he said on Twitter.

    He said EDSA's capacity is 1,800 buses but more than 4,000 buses -- not including ones from the provinces -- have a franchise to ply EDSA.

    He said the agency's officials dodged his question on how many franchises were issued by the LTFRB after the moratorium was imposed.

    Ejercito's father, Manila Mayor Joseph Estrada, is going head-to-head with the LTFRB on the city's ban on buses that have no existing terminals in Manila.

    The LTFRB said the city council's move is illegal, while Estrada urged those opposing the ban to take their grievances to court.with a report from Jing Castañeda, ABS-CBN News; ANC

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    #228
    Has the LTFRB ever responded to that question? Why are there so many buses?

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    #229
    If LTFRB is doing their jobs wala na tayong problema. Iyon mga PUJ trip cutting, using other street not authorizes by LTFRB...

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    #230
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    ang sabi nila isko pwede pumasok sa manila yung mga bus na may terminal sa loob ng manila pero hindi sila pwede mag sakay at baba along the way sa terminal lang...

    yung LTFRB nag require ng garage.. hindi terminal so possible na meron lahat garage yan mga bus pero wala mga terminal like victory liner


    kung sa wording natin pagbabasehan:

    kung meron sila garage sa fairview, pasig, ayala, cavite or las pinas, legal na mag park sila sa kalsada ng manila habang nag-aantay ng pasahero

    kaya pala sabi ng LTFRB illegal ung ginagawa ni isko, dapat pala illegal parking lang ang kinaso sa operator and i-tow ung mga bus para impound.

    lumalabas e mabait pa pala si isko kasi instead na i-tow at mag issue ng TVR, e hindi na lang pinapasok ng manila ung mga bus na walang terminal.

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    #231
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Has the LTFRB ever responded to that question? Why are there so many buses?
    more buses means more money in their pockets. duh!

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    #232
    Planuhin na ang centralized bus routing system, eto may kachat akong kaibigan nasa australia, centralized ang bus, may ruta, may station, may ORAS. Pag nalagpasan mo yung ORAS, antay ka sa susunod.

    Pero dapat isama yung variable na madami ring sumasakay lalo pag rush hour, so dapat pag aralan yung dami ng ididispatch na bus NORTHBOUND at SOUTHBOUND, for example 80% and 20% ng fleet, respectively.

    Ang hirap kasi ang daming players eh, malamang hindi maisasaayos yan kung hindi susunod ang lahat.

    Saka may sariling lane yung bus dun so dirediretso, so ito yung planong BRT na iimplement sa CEBU, at sana maimplement narin dito sa atin sa metro.

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    #233
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Has the LTFRB ever responded to that question? Why are there so many buses?

    ung mga bus daw sa EDSA ay parang gremlins, pag nabasa dumadami kaya walang nagawa ang LTFRB.

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    #234
    tatahimik lang ltfrb sa binabatong issue sa kanila .. maraming nagagawa ang pera

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    #235
    I think if bus operators will be able to get TRO, erap will not heed...

    Maganda rin meron goon na mayor...


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    #236
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I think if bus operators will be able to get TRO, erap will not heed...

    Maganda rin meron goon na mayor...


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    at least si Erap unti unting nililinis ang Maynila.. eh yung ibang mayor..

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    #237
    Kung makakuha ng TRO mga bus operator at nagpatuloy yung byahe ng bus sa manila, lalong maguguluhan mga commuters niyan, nag aadjust na nga sila ngayon tapos balik sa dati, tapos pag natanggal na TRO bago na naman.

    Pero dapat mag usap usap mga bus operator/driver, this time kung may TRO pakita nila na kayang maging maayos ng daloy ng trapiko kahit may bus. Pero mukang malabo to hehe.

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    #238
    Quote Originally Posted by ronki View Post
    Kung makakuha ng TRO mga bus operator at nagpatuloy yung byahe ng bus sa manila, lalong maguguluhan mga commuters niyan, nag aadjust na nga sila ngayon tapos balik sa dati, tapos pag natanggal na TRO bago na naman.

    Pero dapat mag usap usap mga bus operator/driver, this time kung may TRO pakita nila na kayang maging maayos ng daloy ng trapiko kahit may bus. Pero mukang malabo to hehe.
    Feeling ko hinde susundin ni erap ang TRO


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    #239
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    I think if bus operators will be able to get TRO, erap will not heed...

    Maganda rin meron goon na mayor...


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    Pag si ERAP ang bumanat sa mga bus operators:


    Traffic Regulatory Ordinace

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    #240
    nabawasan rin yung traffic sa commonwealth.

    hmm. i think jeepneys are ok for manila. it may be a good time to rethink the bus and jeep designs. baka ang pina-optimum is a 25~30 seater bus with two doors (one for entering and exiting).

    img_01.jpg

    or i could be wrong. hehehe

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