DOTC Joint Administrative Order No. 2014-01: Revised fines for traffic violations

[boybi]

Boybi ibigay mo kasi as mga drivers direct number to pnoy. Sayang naman pagka kingmaker mo Sa Tarlac pag hinde gagamitin.

Provincial plate ba mga delivery trucks mo? Baka mas iniipit nila pag provincial plates dahil alam nila saysng Oras pag I contest pa dito Sa Manila.


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Number lang ng hardinero ni pnoy ang meron ako e

Provincial plates mga truck ko. Puro galing Subic kaya di makapili ng NCR plates.

[crazy_boy]

Sabi nung 3rd party trucking service namin, LTO are requiring them to change to yellow plates. Pag hindi instant 200k. Colorum daw agad yun.

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[falken]

Sabi nung 3rd party trucking service namin, LTO are requiring them to change to yellow plates. Pag hindi instant 200k. Colorum daw agad yun.

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Our company applied for the change to yellow plates some 3 years ago. Up till now, we're still waiting for LTO to process the application. They can go to hell.

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[crazy_boy]

^trucking service provider kayo sir?

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[wowiesy]

I spent the day today consulting people on this sa LTFRB..

I suppose all I got were people either "working" with the LTFRB guys.. or straight out fixers... so mahirap makakuha ng totoong stand..

as it is, here is the situation, as I understand it:
1. ang stand ng LTFRB, is that kapag company ka (presuming you manufacture or you make your own goods), yun yung private use.

2. however, kapag "big company" ka (example given was Jollibee - delivering supplies from the commissary to the branches), nirequire na din daw mag yellow plates.. take note.. it seems LTFRB does not make any distinction between Jollibee owned trucks, and service providers (haulers) of Jollibee

3. I inquired, what if ako ay distributor... I use my truck 2 ways.. one is to buy from my suppliers (if I pickup the goods from the suppliers' warehouse)... sa akin naka invoice ang goods.. assuming I pickup from 3 companies within a day... the fact daw na magkakaiba ang goods... colorum agad

4. 2nd way I can use my truck is to deliver to my customers... so maaaring may DR or Invoice ako to my customers... pero the goods are iba iba ang origin (P&G, Unilever, Colgate Palmolive) etc.. colorum din daw.. kasi dapat iisa lang

5. so when I asked.. meaning kung big company ako.. magagamit ko lang ang truck ko to transfer goods from my warehouse to another of my warehouse? di makasagot yung kausap ko...

6. i asked... ako maliiit na negosyante... nakita ko na mas makakatipid ako kung bibili ako ng sarili kong trak... pang pickup / deliver.. instead of hiring a hauler / trucker... i pickup goods (binayaran ko na sa supplier).. then sell goods... paano ako naging colorum? hahanapan daw ako dapat ng Hauling Contract.. or Loading Contract.. kasi daw.. pag bumili ako sa URC or sa CocaCola or Nestle.. sigurado daw may contract yun.... ang sagot ko.. eh ang contract namin ang pinag uusapan ay presyo, item at terms lang naman... at kung sya mag deliver.. o ako ang pipickup.. kailangan pa ba gumawa ng Loading / Hauling contract sa ganun? di makasagot ang kausap ko..

7. dineretso ko.. so meaning.. lahat ng trak.. dapat mag yellow plate? ang sagot.. mas maigit pag ganun para di na sitahin sa kalsada...


Personally.. i understand.. kung yung truck ay talagang pang hauler... for hire talaga yun.. malinaw.. na dapat yellow plate.... pero.. LTFRB pa mas nakaka alam sa negosyante paaano magpatakbo ng negosyo? kung ang usapin ay logistics to sell / procure yung items na ninenegosyo ko (primary business is the trade / sale of goods, and NOT the actual HAULING of goods)... parang ang understanding ng LTFRB... hindi pupuwede na ang company ay bumili ng sariling truck... para gamitin sa negosyo... kailangan gumamit ng hauler...

in the end... i think.. this is just a fund raising initiative... sa mga kotong cops.. sa LTFRB mismo.. sa mga fixers... lahat sila!!

IT'S MORE FUN IN THE PHILIPPINES ****IN*!!!!!!!


I wonder sino naglagay o bata nino ang nagpasimuno nito... required kaya sila "mag remit" sa kakandidato sa 2016 nito?

[Jordst]

Hi sirs, parehong pareho ang problema natin...

I am also a distributor/wholesaler of consumer goods that pick up stocks directly from the company, and like you sir wowiesy, I also make multiple pickups para masulit ang byahe. If by chance that my trucks get flagged down during multiple pickups, parating pinagbibintangan na colorum even if I have receipts/ papers that prove otherwise.

I think that the LTO or LTFRB or whatever regulating agency should clear this gray area. Sakit sa ulo because some kotongs abuse this rule to their advantage. Para matapos na problema, lahat ng trucks ko na bumabyahe papunta Manila pinapaasikaso ko na na ipa-yellow plate. I currently have a truck na nandyan sa Manila today. Hopefully di ma-tripan.

[crazy_boy]

kailangan mai-publish sa papers itong problem para may action. kawawa lahat ng negosyante nito. 200k agad bawat sita.

[wowiesy]

I don't know if we can have a sit down with James Deakin (or any other columnist with good clout sa government) to at least lay this down... baka naman the columnist DOES understand the logic...

nakikita ko kasi.. nilalahat ng gobyerno.. para lumaki koleksyon nila eh... koleksyon sa LTFRB (yung naka resibo.. which is not even half of the asking price ngayon sa lakaran ng truck for hire sa LTFRB)... .. yung mga fixers.. yung mga lagay din sa pipirma ng documents within LTFRB... fund raising scheme din lang..

walang pinag iba sa panahon ni GMA noon nung nagtaas ng penalties / fines din yung dating LTFRB chair ... in the guise of public service para mapabuti ang service ng transport sector to the public... (mag agree pa ako sa transport sector involved in transporting passengers - bus, jeep, taxi).. pero parang gatasan lang talaga nila ang mga negosyante...

importante lang.. mga botante (kasi sila ang boboto sa dulo)... ang media (kasi ginagamit ang media para ipaabot ang mensahe sa mga boboto) ... pero yung mga negosyante sa gitna (that make up more than a huge chunk of government revenues).. iniipit.. pinahihirapan....

sabi nyo.. kami ang boss nyo... pinahihirapan nyo ba ang boss nyo?

[chase]

yung truck namin nakapangalan sa private individual, si juan santos.

si juan santos ay mayroong 20% share sa Canon Incorporated.

naka sulat sa labas ng truck Canon incorporated.

ang hawak na resibo ay kay canon incorporated. ang karga na gamit kay canon incorporated din.

Colorum ba pag ganito? ano kelangan gawin? ano ba dapat?

[uls]

how do you prove to the guy na nagsita that Juan Santos has equity sa Canon Inc

[userfriendly]

Yes it is still colorum in the eyes of the kotong boys. Just transfer the title to your company to be safe.

[crazy_boy]

same topic. please merge

http://tsikot.com/forums/traffic-law...37/index3.html

[crazy_boy]

i dont know how true is this. pero ang sabi ng supplier namin, ang ginagawa nila ngayon is get a "waiver" from LTFRB, then transfer trucks to company name, then apply for yellow plates. yung waiver daw is waiver na hindi for hire yung sasakyan.

pero diba ang yellow plate is for public vehicles? ang labo naman. ok lang sa akin kung may bagong regulation, pero sana naman clear and may time for us to change whatever is needed. ngayon kasi walang time to change/correct, huli agad.

[userfriendly]

I really dont understand this ruling. I mean its your truck, you paid for it, you use it to move your legally purchased items and your still considered colorum. WTF! Why do you need to get a franchise to use your own trucks for your pick up and deliveries?

My trucks are 2nd hand, mostly 1990s model. So they are fully depreciated. If my drivers are flagged down for colorum, the penalty is more than the truck is worth. Might be better for me to tell them to take the stupid truck and report it as stolen.

[lowslowbenz]

Hmmm, magulo ito ah.

We have trucks and trailers, all green plates. We use them to haul sugarcane from farm to mill. We are not a trucking service provider.

So what does that mean? Convert all plates to yellow? Truck and trailer? Tapos waiver? WTH ..........

We are being stewed in our own fat ..........

[crazy_boy]

Hmmm, magulo ito ah.

We have trucks and trailers, all green plates. We use them to haul sugarcane from farm to mill. We are not a trucking service provider.

So what does that mean? Convert all plates to yellow? Truck and trailer? Tapos waiver? WTH ..........

We are being stewed in our own fat ..........

magulo nga. daming grey areas and opportunity to extort money...

[lowslowbenz]

^

I would'nt care less if they extort money on those colorum buses, jeepneys, tricycles, etc.

But for trucks moving goods, commodities (commercial) .......... dapat they should have clear cut rules.

[wezz_zzew]

FYi most of the trucking companies doing business here in the port are owned by either a retired general or customs official, thus, they might be exempted from that AO. Isang tawag lang ng mga driver or pahinante sa boss nila, free to go na cla malamang.



I may be stupid, but I am not a fool.

[wowiesy]

FYi most of the trucking companies doing business here in the port are owned by either a retired general or customs official, thus, they might be exempted from that AO. Isang tawag lang ng mga driver or pahinante sa boss nila, free to go na cla malamang.








I may be stupid, but I am not a fool.

so... protektado na naman ang mga may koneksyon.. yung mga BOSS NYA ang laglag...

[wowiesy]

May news feed sa abscbnnews.com na may 10 buses na facing 1M fines due to colorum... nakahuli daw ay LTO... (actually yesterday pagkalabas ko ng LTFRB vicinity then passed by EDSA.. may LTO nga nag operate dun)..

what's weird and not really funny.. sa interview kahapon ni Sec Abaya with Ted FAILon, sinabi ni Sec Abaya na ang tanging pupuwede lang manghuli under the new Joint AO was LTFRB (di ko sure kung kasama LTO.. but malamang siguro oo)... makes sense kung LTO nga ang humuli sa mga to...

pero may press release din ang MMDA na nanghuhuli pa din sila ng colorum.. yun nga lang ang penalty di ganun kalaki since di pa sila deputized ng LTO/LTFRB... so sa dulo.. talaga.. ang importante ay makahuli at maka kolekta mula sa multa.. hindi talaga iniisip yung paano i enforce.. paano i administer yung batas...