Ano masasabi nyo sa proposed Zipper Lane on EDSA?

[BratPAQ]

Parang baligtad pala no? Diba pag umaga traffic ang southbound???

Ay o nga parang baliktad? If thats the case, nako. Mastatraffic pa pala lalo for me. Argh. Sana di na iimplement. Haha. Jk. Whatevers best for the majority.

haha, oo nga

They are considering the scheme since the bulk of southbound vehicles come in from Quezon City in the morning while the traffic buildup on EDSA’s northbound lane occurs during the afternoon, he said.

One of EDSA’s southbound lanes will be open to northbound motorists from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. while one of EDSA’s northbound lanes will be open to southbound motorists from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m., Tolentino added.

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[CVT]

It is a good idea,- let's see how it is implemented.

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[IMm29]

It is a good idea,- let's see how it is implemented.

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Agree Bro. It does give an additional lane that will be free from buses swerving in and out and stopping at supposed terminals.

I suppose you will recall they used to do this in SLEX when there was no Skyway yet, until they built the Skyway until Alabang. Not sure if they still do today.

Implementation is key. Have to see the details. They should address the choke points -- which would be when that counterflow lane 'zips' back into the regular lanes. With Rockwell, there was not much volume. Not to say it was that small a number of cars, but when compared to the entire Edsa, they'll have to determine how not to cause a big problem at merging and back traffic up the entire length of the zipper lane.

[glenn manikis]

7am start? eh traffic na din yan ganyan time ha...

dapat before palang mag buildup ang traffic umpisahan na nila...

bakit hihintayin pa nilang magkaron ng build up?

mga sungasunga talaga eh..

start dapat sila ng 6am...

[IMm29]

7am start? eh traffic na din yan ganyan time ha...

dapat before palang mag buildup ang traffic umpisahan na nila...

bakit hihintayin pa nilang magkaron ng build up?

mga sungasunga talaga eh..

start dapat sila ng 6am...

O nga no. That part I didn't notice. For the start times, 6 or 630 AM at the latest, and 4 or 430 PM. 630 AM is still ok coming from Shaw blvd southbound, although may build up na. I can only imagine, however, how more congested it is at 630 AM in the QC area.

[CVT]

To my mind,- dapat hindi zipper lane ang tawag diyan,- dapat "Carpool Lane" para sa ibang bansa...

Para implied na kailangan ay 3 or more passengers ang laman ng sasakyan.....

O parang thread dito na,- "makikisabay lang ako sa kanto, ha?"... :hysterical:

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[Densker]

Good idea to. Hindi naman complicated, common sense lng gamitin sa pagimplement. Matrabaho nga lang at first. imagine kelangan may magbabantay or mag-install-remove ng temporary barriers/cones 4x/day-5x/week lalo na pag sobrang haba ng zipper lane.

Expect na lang natin at first hindi pa totally maging smooth ito. Meron pa adjustment and tweaks before they install permanent barriers for the zipper, para sa magkabilang dulo na lang yung open and close nila.

[boybi]

Dami magiging choke points pagdating sa mga flyovers and intersections. Lahat ng nasa zipper lane mag merge sa right.

[s10pao]

What about fix the bus lanes first.

If they wanna serve the majority, then those are the commuters. Try niyo sumakay ng bus sa ortigas ilalim ng umaga or ng gabi.

true. walang kwenta itong zipper lane kung hindi nila aayusin ung bus lanes at huhulihin yung mga pasaway na bus drivers na lumalabas ng bus lanes.

ang route ko lagi EDSA NB from makati to ortigas from 730 to 800 am. around this time may build up na ng traffic sa may orense-guadalupe dahil sa mga pasaway na bus drivers. ung 3 lanes for private vehicles nagiging 2 lanes na lang, minsan nga 1.5 pa, dahil dun sa mga pasaway na nakikipag-unahan kumuha ng pasahero. ganito rin ang sitwasyon sa may boni. instant traffic so early in the morning.

kung hindi nila aayusin ung bus lanes at ipapatupad itong zipper lanes, luluwag ang traffic sa SB pero malamang yung NB naman ang sisikip. eventually yung mga NB naman ang magrereklamo.

"pick your poison" ika nga nila

[111prez]

Why not? If it works, then great

However, the problems I see include:

1. Chokepoints at the egress of the counterflow lanes. It could make traffic worse at those areas.

2. You are not solving the real cause of traffic and that is undisciplined public utility vehicles. Worse, if traffic eases up, guess who will choke it once again? My bet goes to these undisciplined PUVs.

[vinj]

2. You are not solving the real cause of traffic and that is undisciplined public utility vehicles. Worse, if traffic eases up, guess who will choke it once again? My bet goes to these undisciplined PUV.

This is still the bottomline. Not another "stop gap" measure such as the "zipper lane".

Also, they CANNOT compare a EDSA counterflow to the Rockwell flyover counterflow. Why?
- The Rockwell counterflow allows the traffic coming from Estrella Road going to EDSA, to merge more properly with EDSA traffic rather than turning right onto EDSA and block the flow from the first two lanes (bus lanes).
- It does not take up an extra lane off the opposite lane as it uses the Rockwell flyover with minimal traffic in the morning and merges straight back onto the EDSA southbound lane.
- That counterflow also eliminates the cars that are cutting across EDSA to get to the Buendia U-turn so they can go northbound and turn to the Fort; when they come down the flyover counterflow, they're already one the leftmost lane and are lined up properly to the U-turn slot or can go straight towards Makati/Pasay with ease. What really causes traffic in that area? The Buendia bus stop... duh.

FYI, MMDA should also notice that both lanes of EDSA can already get bad during rush hours whether it be at the morning or evening. I know because my daily route makes me use both northbound and southbound lanes during morning and evening rush hours.

[Monseratto]

Isn't there more people heading southward (Makait) in the morning from the north ( CAMANAVA) than the other way? Pero at night, parang both ways.

[IMm29]

To my mind,- dapat hindi zipper lane ang tawag diyan,- dapat "Carpool Lane" para sa ibang bansa...

Para implied na kailangan ay 3 or more passengers ang laman ng sasakyan.....

O parang thread dito na,- "makikisabay lang ako sa kanto, ha?"... :hysterical:

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Hard to tell the number of occupants with tinted windows, Bro.

[stickers]

Antaba talaga ng utak ni chairman, wala ako masabi..

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[IMm29]

This is still the bottomline. Not another "stop gap" measure such as the "zipper lane".

I agree with vinj and prez111. This is just another stop gap measure because they cannot discipline erring PUV drivers. That, indeed, is another issue altogether, but it is the underlying issue of traffic in the metropolis, other than the volume of vehicles on the road. (Much like the flooding issue is mainly because of the garbage in the metro's waterways, and the informal settlers who remain to be there and the flow of water that they hinder by being there.)

What I like about the solution, despite it being a stop gap, is that if implemented properly, it could work -- albeit for a while. I certainly hope, however, if they realize it fails or it isn't working anymore, they be man enough to stop it.

[jut703]

A bit OT, but while we're on the topic of disciplining PUV drivers, I think those in charge of enforcing discipline should be more qualified as well.

Heard it first hand from one of the bus drivers talking to his conductor: "Petiks lang yang blue boy na yan, eh sa hapon naglalako yan ng tubig eh. Ngayon dito siya sa Boni. Tingnan mo mamaya pagtapos ng shift niya, nasa Crossing yan nagbebenta ng Cobra."

Seriously, yung TE, vendor din. I'm not being a bigot or anything, but a traffic enforcer should have reached a certain level of education in order to at least understand the rules, and have the mindset that implementing them will be for the greater good.

[A121]

pointless. there are too many vehicles in EDSA. cancel all bus franchises and implement a new BRT system. yan ang solusyon.

OT: nagbu-bus ako dati papasok ng office. nung naimplement nila yung A-B-C bus scheme nila, mas tumagal travel time ko ng 30~45 minutes.

[a9828]

What about fix the bus lanes first.

If they wanna serve the majority, then those are the commuters. Try niyo sumakay ng bus sa ortigas ilalim ng umaga or ng gabi.

+1 on this. our bus lanes don't make any sense using any sane traffic logic. ayusin muna yung mga `to para mawala rin `yung bottlenecks caused by the stops.

[HondaWay]

Agree ako na ang root cause ng traffic sa EDSA, at kahit sa ibang kalsada, ay mga PUV na numero unong traffic violators.

Ang dahilan kung bakit di sila madesiplina ng mga traffic enforcers ay hindi rin sa katigasan ng ulo ng mba driver, ang totoong dahilan (ayon sa mga nakakausap nating PUV driver) ay may weekly suhol sila sa mga iyan. Kaya wala silang huli sa mga violations nila.

Pero alam rin naman natin na ang mga suhol na iyan ang umaabot hanggang sa itaas, so in the end palabas lang ng gobyerno yung kunwari inaayos nila. Para lang masabi na may ginagawa sila, kapag lumamig na sa media, tuloy ang ligaya (luluwag ulit mga implementation at tuloy ang suhol).

[c_cube]

tingin ko pandalian solusyon lang ito pero pag tumagal bali wala din.

ang kelangan sa tingin ko kasi palakihin ang kalsada. hirap lang sa EDSA sa itaas nalang pwedeng magdagdag ng kalsada.

tas ilagay ang PUV sa ilalim lang, sa taas private lang pwede dumaan

o kaya maglagay na ng toll sa EDSA