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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    dati nung vios club gen 2 batman, naka pasok kame sa toyota sta rosa kung saan pinakita sa amin mag assemble ng vios at innova, pagkatapos may Q&A sa mga engineers nila

    gusto ko ulet maka balik sa loob ng toyota sta rosa kase mga bago labas ngayon innova at vios ay wala sa wheel alignment, di naman ikaw (o ako) papansinin kahit ano complain sa customer service nila, puro ipapasa ka lang sa casa na parang wala nang yari...
    Open ba sila for plant tours to the public? Or need talaga ng vios/innova club gatherings (or kailangan may kakilala/kaibigan sa TMP) para lamang makapasok sa TMP sta rosa assembly plant

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Open ba sila for plant tours to the public? Or need talaga ng vios/innova club gatherings (or kailangan may kakilala/kaibigan sa TMP) para lamang makapasok sa TMP sta rosa assembly plant

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    dati nung wala pa covid ay open talaga ang toyota via public relation officer nila mag schedule ng plant tour sa mga interesado. pero ngayon may covid kahit pa level 1 lang eh ewan ko lang kung paano

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    #43
    Toyota to jack up prices of the Vios, Innova in June; Fortuner, Hilux in July | TopGear PH

    According to a trusted source, TMP will be bumping the prices of the Vios, Innova, Camry, Alphard, FJ Cruiser, Prius, and Coaster for June. Following that, the carmaker will then jack up the prices of the Hilux, Fortuner, and Hiace come July.

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    #44
    kung sakali plus excise tax pa sa mga pick up. 😒

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    #46
    Ewan ko sa inyo, pero cash ang binayad ko sa Toyota nung 2002 (QAve), 2012 (Balintawak), at 2017 (Commonwealth). Kasama ang LTO, Comprehensive insurance, tint, at iba pang freebies. Never nila pinilit na financing.

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by makinao View Post
    Ewan ko sa inyo, pero cash ang binayad ko sa Toyota nung 2002 (QAve), 2012 (Balintawak), at 2017 (Commonwealth). Kasama ang LTO, Comprehensive insurance, tint, at iba pang freebies. Never nila pinilit na financing.
    Lucky you. Usually yung hot sellers nila pinipilit nila ang in house financing.

    I remember my brother, nagpunta siya sa 4 dealerships bringing with him a bag full of cash to buy a fortuner. Ayaw siya bentahan unless in house financing. The one dealership na willing to accept cash wants him to buy the sound setup for an additional 300k.

    Nung 2019 bumili din ako car ng cash. If in-house financing may available at pwede agad i-uwi. Kung cash, wait for 1-2 months. Luckily i had an officemate before who knew someone high in toyota. As soon as the car left from sta.rosa nakareseve na agad sakin kahit cash payment.

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    #48
    kasi from the point of view of finance a car isn't only a means of transporation

    it's something the finance industry uses for loan origination

    tandaan for a financing company a loan is an asset

    it generates income

    if you buy a car in cash you deprive them of an opportunity to create a new loan

    anything... condos, cars, appliances, smartphones...

    lahat yan the finance industry uses to create loans
    Last edited by uls; August 31st, 2022 at 12:51 PM.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    Lucky you. Usually yung hot sellers nila pinipilit nila ang in house financing.

    I remember my brother, nagpunta siya sa 4 dealerships bringing with him a bag full of cash to buy a fortuner. Ayaw siya bentahan unless in house financing. The one dealership na willing to accept cash wants him to buy the sound setup for an additional 300k.

    Nung 2019 bumili din ako car ng cash. If in-house financing may available at pwede agad i-uwi. Kung cash, wait for 1-2 months. Luckily i had an officemate before who knew someone high in toyota. As soon as the car left from sta.rosa nakareseve na agad sakin kahit cash payment.

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    agree. normally, yung mga Vios & Innova, madali sila kausap kahit cash

    pero yung hybrids nila and FJ... halos in-house lang nila binebenta (balita ko pari Raize na white pahirapan ngayon)

    kaya kailangan talaga may kilala ka sa loob, otherwise ang hirap bimili ng cash.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kasi from the point of view of finance a car isn't only a means of transporation

    it's something the finance industry uses for loan origination

    tandaan for a financing company a loan is an asset

    it generates income

    if you buy a car in cash you deprive them of an opportunity to create a new loan

    anything... condos, cars, appliances, smartphones...

    lahat yan the finance industry uses to create loans
    a friend from Toyota and Honda once told me...

    kung lahat ng tao bibili ng car using cash. kulang pa kikitahin nila to pay for rent (di pa kasama utilities and sweldo nila)

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    a friend from Toyota and Honda once told me...

    kung lahat ng tao bibili ng car using cash. kulang pa kikitahin nila to pay for rent (di pa kasama utilities and sweldo nila)
    an industry source once said,
    casas do not generate the majority of their income from unit car sales.
    they generate their lion's share of income from costumer services, aka, PMS and repairs.

    you sell one car, ilang libo lang kita diyan.
    you pms it multiple times during its useful life... !
    Last edited by dr. d; August 31st, 2022 at 03:13 PM.

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    #52
    But Toyota is highly vertically integrated! Pati financing meron sila sarili (TFS), for a car that's worth a million or two being amortized for several years that's a couple of hundred thousand din. And the agents will insist you use their internal financing.

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    #53
    Doc I have heard this too, but if its true then they should sell as many units as possible to produce more income from the PMS schedules.
    But their sales practice is turning off a lot of potential sales simply because it wont give an initial profit to the Sales Agent.
    For almost 2 decades a lot of my friends, family and me included would have bought 1-2 more Toyota's if it was not for their sales practice. A benefit for their competitors.
    The DTI i think already has a memorandum against their practice but they still do it and no one is complaining to DTI. They still find ways to skirt the order plus complaining to DTI might be long and painstaking process.

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Doc I have heard this too, but if its true then they should sell as many units as possible to produce more income from the PMS schedules.
    But their sales practice is turning off a lot of potential sales simply because it wont give an initial profit to the Sales Agent.
    For almost 2 decades a lot of my friends, family and me included would have bought 1-2 more Toyota's if it was not for their sales practice. A benefit for their competitors.
    The DTI i think already has a memorandum against their practice but they still do it and no one is complaining to DTI. They still find ways to skirt the order plus complaining to DTI might be long and painstaking process.
    yes. kaso not all buyers naman will have their PMS done sa casa.

    and some car owners will also go to a more convenient casa. e.g. if you buy a Nissan from Manila Bay, ibang company na pala sa Q. Ave -> so ibang company na makikinabang syo if you send your car sa Q. Ave for PMS.

    in my case, I bought a car from Honda Manila Bay and PMS ko is sa Makati. although its under the same group, nararamdaman ko na magka-iba pa din sila everytime I renew my insurance (Manila Bay is still messaging me yearly)

    as for DTI... may colleagueakong taga DTI and madali lang mag-complain.

    problem is kung 1-2 cars lang dumadating sa model na pinilahan mo... dealer can always say na may nauna syo.

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    #55
    True, i bought a unit outside metro manila and i am having it serviced at a casa a few blocks away from my house. two different parent companies.

    But isn't sales supposed to be a numbers games.
    My guess is the parent company wants to sell more cars, but the SA would rather have more profit for him/her rather than sell more cars but for less profit due to the payment methods.

    No transparency. you really wouldn't know kung ano exact number mo sa wait list nila until the vehicle unit is in your hands.

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    True, i bought a unit outside metro manila and i am having it serviced at a casa a few blocks away from my house. two different parent companies.

    But isn't sales supposed to be a numbers games.
    My guess is the parent company wants to sell more cars, but the SA would rather have more profit for him/her rather than sell more cars but for less profit due to the payment methods.

    No transparency. you really wouldn't know kung ano exact number mo sa wait list nila until the vehicle unit is in your hands.
    yes... sales agents also receive extra $$$ for in-house (and partner banks) financing.

    as for it being a numbers game... we do our homework before buying a car. If Toyota and Honda asks you to wait. will you go to Geely?
    If wala si Geely, bibili ka ba ng MG?

    In the end, pipila ka din.

    Tapos (other than the Vios and Innova), limited din stocks nila. di naman palaging may Grandia na available for release.

    So if you only have 1 car available na dumating... e.g. Corolla Cross GR (iisa daw dumating last month as per our source). kanino mo bebenta? Cash, In-house, Bank or Toyota Lease Program?

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    #57
    pag ako bumili sa toyota quezon avenue hindi ako dadaan sa mga dinadaanan nyo.

    Pero as much as possible ayaw ko na ng toyota.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    pag ako bumili sa toyota quezon avenue hindi ako dadaan sa mga dinadaanan nyo.

    Pero as much as possible ayaw ko na ng toyota.
    kasi di ka sa main entrance papasok?

    hehehe

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    #59
    ^
    tatawag lang sa telepono. They live here in trueQC.

    pero sabi ko nga kung pwede iwasan toyota eh iwasan. Parang sm supermarket matagal na ako hindi bumibili.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ^
    tatawag lang sa telepono. They live here in trueQC.

    pero sabi ko nga kung pwede iwasan toyota eh iwasan. Parang sm supermarket matagal na ako hindi bumibili.
    Sino kakilala mo sa kanila?


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