Toyota Hilux Owners & Discussions [continued]

[beetlebmble]

i have 2kdftv na hilux, in one full tank of 65 liters, i run an average of 900kms city driving,

QC-Marikina-Ortigas-Makati. yung sa kapatid ko 1kdftv sa hilux niya in 65 liters of full tank it can run an ave of 700kms

sir.

thanks for the info.. sharply on the bell curve 12-14-16.5km/ ltr for many 2kd-ftv's. Yung weight factor pala ay kaya na ng 260Nm of torque to manage with different gearing to carry it but with less acceleration.

If I may asked if how many na sa odo
tinakbo ng 1kd-ftv nang brother mo?

yung owner that has the 1kd-ftv averages about 9-10km combined pero he is not satisfied sa highway F/C (15-17km/ltr kasi sa mga LN166 mabilis na yun.. I said to him flat torque yan upto 3200rpm just drive below that ).

Medyo related sa copper mining here in Mindanao yung route niya. Cruising at 130kph and taking off to 170 knots.. 170kph lng .. pag sa mga 4 lane highway dito. Nakikipaghabulan siya sa mga navara na ang tutulin hehehe na kaya lang tapatan to 200kph ng mga LC100 with 1HD-FTE (204hp). Yung mga fortuner medyo takot dahil known to roll over pag emergency maneuver at that speed.

Iba talaga performance ng common rail. Lots of power with decent fuel economy. Kung 1KZ-TE sa mabilisan , 1KD-FTV wins with power and good fuel economy. Just watch out for the water pump me minor leaking minsan if high on the odo.

[paul4u2c]

thanks for the info.. sharply on the bell curve 12-14-16.5km/ ltr for many 2kd-ftv's. Yung weight factor pala ay kaya na ng 260Nm of torque to manage with different gearing to carry it but with less acceleration.

If I may asked if how many na sa odo
tinakbo ng 1kd-ftv nang brother mo?

yung owner that has the 1kd-ftv averages about 9-10km combined pero he is not satisfied sa highway F/C (15-17km/ltr kasi sa mga LN166 mabilis na yun.. I said to him flat torque yan upto 3200rpm just drive below that ).

Medyo related sa copper mining here in Mindanao yung route niya. Cruising at 130kph and taking off to 170 knots.. 170kph lng .. pag sa mga 4 lane highway dito. Nakikipaghabulan siya sa mga navara na ang tutulin hehehe na kaya lang tapatan to 200kph ng mga LC100 with 1HD-FTE (204hp). Yung mga fortuner medyo takot dahil known to roll over pag emergency maneuver at that speed.

Iba talaga performance ng common rail. Lots of power with decent fuel economy. Kung 1KZ-TE sa mabilisan , 1KD-FTV wins with power and good fuel economy. Just watch out for the water pump me minor leaking minsan if high on the odo.

thanks for the info mukhang masaya dyan sa inyo ah yep 1kdftv nakakatungtong ng 200kph we tested it before na. even our 2kdftv reached 200kph sa test runs namin sa expressway on the way to subic at pabalik ng manila maganda kasi din kalsada sa sctex. both can hit 200kph medyo mas mabilis lang makukuha ng 1kdftv ang speed na yun as to 2kdftv na bubwelo pa ng onti hanggang magspool ang turbo.

what's very nice and surprising about toyota d4d, hindi mausok. *200kph walang itim na usok ang hilux. every 5k kms at regular mineral oil lang gamit namin. actually mas magastos pa kami kapag sa hiways kakaupak kasi he he. mas matipid dito sa city driving kasi di makahataw.

[beetlebmble]

thanks for the info mukhang masaya dyan sa inyo ah yep 1kdftv nakakatungtong ng 200kph we tested it before na. even our 2kdftv reached 200kph sa test runs namin sa expressway on the way to subic at pabalik ng manila maganda kasi din kalsada sa sctex. both can hit 200kph medyo mas mabilis lang makukuha ng 1kdftv ang speed na yun as to 2kdftv na bubwelo pa ng onti hanggang magspool ang turbo.

what's very nice and surprising about toyota d4d, hindi mausok. *200kph walang itim na usok ang hilux. every 5k kms at regular mineral oil lang gamit namin. actually mas magastos pa kami kapag sa hiways kakaupak kasi he he. mas matipid dito sa city driving kasi di makahataw.

There is an Australian 4x4 Magazine comparing toe to toe Navara/Hilux.. The review was 2006 or 2007 , naremember ko Navara YD25DDTi (174/403 version 6M/T) pagcruising ng 3000rpm mas me galit ng konti yung engine when revving to above 160kph vs the Hilux. Detuned ata ng Nissan yung torque to taper off hence parang narrow yung hila na matatawag pero hp is still coming.. alalay lang sa gearbox nila na 6-speed .. tall gearing// .827 (6th gear) X 4.27 (final drive) hindi ko lang maalala at what exact speed yung 3000 rpm pero you can compute the speed at 3500-4000rpm from the figures (torque would be 350Nm-265Nm at that range) so me hila pa ng konti. At the end HILUX is still the winner. The 3.0 is still the winner in terms of overall performance. Also it managed about 10,5 l/100km for its FC combined.

medyo OT..

sabisabi lang dito, prone daw sa mechanical glitch yung tranny lalo na yung 6th gear ng navara pero they designed naman siguro to carry it to that speed. Pero its seems parang medyo totoo depende siguro sa paggamit. related eto konti sa Navara see this link about the ZD30's of the Patrols pero minor design issue pag high mileage malamang.

[paul4u2c]

Yep totoo and ausies know that very well kaya landslide ang sales ng hilux sa australia comparing to ANY available truck of the similar benchmarked units.

Yung 02 patrol (presidentail ed) ni utol ganyan din, wala pa 5yrs wayback 06. Sliding na ang clutch so pinalitan namin ng clutch kit (disk, release bearing at press plate). Ilan beses na ako may nakakalaro sa nlex going sa farm namin sa san rafael na strada at navarra, mausok na sila kapag tungtong na namin ng 160kph and up. Ang masarap sa hilux yung final drive 5th gear, at 180kph kapag inapakan mo ramdam mo parin humahatak andun pa rin yung toque. at walang usok, kaya kahit maunahan ng navarra (na matulin tlaga), hapi pa rin ako at walang usok itong alaga natin.

[beetlebmble]

Proven na ang 1KD. Isolated lang talaga yung fuel pump seizures DENSO side. Mga iilan sa unang batch lang ata. should be subject to a recall. And matagal na sa Japan na engineered to the rough and heavy duty usage the engine block evolved from the 1990's 3L na square configuration bore = stroke.. then the 5L overbored.. 1KZ stroked version .. D4d --> KD/2KD.

final gear (diff) ratio for 1KD is 4,3.. Sa 2KD na hilux is it the same? At what rpm is 140kph sir?

OT: sa LC100 we managed about >180kph level gradient pero malakas talaga parang accelerating lng from 140 -170 if you want to hit 200kph. mas me turbo lag pa yung spot na 80-100.

[beetlebmble]

My mistake

final gear (diff) ratio for 1KD is 3,538.. 5th gear 0,838 vs navara YD25DDti Hi 3,692 6th gear is 0,827.( yung 4,3 pala sa LC90 and yung 4,26 reverse gear pala ng navara)

[chem_89]

hi mga sir..i'm chem of toyota manila bay..if you have any inquiry regarding our "New Hilux and Fortuner" just send me a message or text me..09194915609..we are accepting now for reservation...thanks..

[paul4u2c]

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[beetlebmble]

My hilux LN166, nakahighway
mode kaya maliit gulong

View image: DSC 0187

[paul4u2c]

My hilux LN166, nakahighway
mode kaya maliit gulong

View image: DSC 0187

ganda sir. nice lc too!

[beetlebmble]

ganda sir. nice lc too!

Pina-retouch na yung damage topcoat sa hood and roof.

original paint pa rin except yung mga naretouched dami lang nga gasgas lalo na pag ginamit sa kargahan but for city use ok lang marami gasgas para sabihin tunay na pickup hehehe.

These are images last year

[beetlebmble]

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Latest info.. me kapitbahay dito buy and sell. He said kaya daw talunin ng Ranger na XLT 4x4 M/T yung NAVARA 4x4 M/T. For his experience, he had driven two NAVARA's before. For me, I get a Hilux again one 4x4. Toyota should also design a kind of leaf sprung rear suspension na adjustable yung load capacity via spring loaded massive shocks (yung me parang coil spring) and match ang spring rate sa leaf spring na 600 ton lang parang sa strada.

[paul4u2c]

di pala tunay na pick up yung akin hahaha. jk lang paps.

tibay ng mg hilux mop sir 250k kms, nabuksan na engine nya? tibay!
yung sakin tinanggalan ko ng 1 pc na leaf spring. 5pcs ang orig setting nya, ngayon 4pcs nalang. laki ng difference ng bounce ng likod.

[beetlebmble]

engine not yet opened, nakatali pa rin injection pump. di naman mausok, ok pa rin throttle response pero before switching too vpower diesel mga 9 km/tr na lang .. but ngayon 10.5-12.5 km/ltr city driving using vpower diesel. takot lang ako magsteady sa vpower baka gasgasin yung nozzles sa abrasion ng mga additive kaya sea oil na gamit ko ngayn. still checking FC as kakafill up pa lang.

original clutch assembly still in good condition pero me konting grabbing pag malamig pa makina needs adjustment or baka me tama na yung release bearing. me mga sample ore na mabibigat ihaul ewan lang kung bumigay na.

truck na truck talaga halos walang masira. if na yung engine by about second change of timing belt sa 300k-450k (assume life span would be 450k for 3L ,overhaul with turbo swap from 1KZ-T or swap na ng 1KZ-T kaso malakas sa krudo , ok rin yung 2KD series na intercooled para matipid kaya lang medyo madugo ang conversion. transfer case/differential ratio ng LN hindi magmatch kahit masalpak ang engine/tranny sa drivetrain.

[beetlebmble]

yung sakin tinanggalan ko ng 1 pc na leaf spring. 5pcs ang orig setting nya, ngayon 4pcs nalang. laki ng difference ng bounce ng likod.

yung helper spring ata yun 2nd from the bottom. Mag weak other leafs pag kargahan mo ng load na match sa dating load capacity. kaya hanggang mga 6-8 bags of cement basta less than 250-350 kg lang dapat. Here in Mindanao hindi ubra yung strada (cool lang mitsu guys peace po)sa loading kahit water refilling business or cement hauling. mga 15 bags medyo heavy loading na para sa kanya which is wala lang sa hilux.

yung concept bale is that engineered yung suspension na overburden load yung leaf spring, coil spring yung suspension if below the overload.. pero sa linkage medyo engineered dapat to counter act the swaying if not overburden; taking into consideration the movement of the unsprung weight as well as the sprung weight.

[agentrambo007]

Hi Guys! Just refilled full tank again and I am getting 11.5 to 12.3 km/L of mileage (the average on the front panel says 11.5 km/L which is kind of accurate din pala). Ok na ba to or may pwede pa iimprove? My fuel is shell fuel save hehe. By the way, got a 2.5G last month. So far satisfied!

[kortopi]

guys can i use a p255/70R15 tires instead of p265/70r15 on stock rims.

[beetlebmble]

*kortopi
no experience for the current hilux.. seems ok naman ata tingnan (Try mo muna pa mount ng 1 tire) . See the manual if it has specs like LN series has the option of 255/70..

Also it is important to match the load rating nung original lalo na pag kargahan..

[ARB]

new hilux with OME, Cooper ST Maxx, full exhaust, racechip....




with OME suspension

[paul4u2c]

Hi Guys! Just refilled full tank again and I am getting 11.5 to 12.3 km/L of mileage (the average on the front panel says 11.5 km/L which is kind of accurate din pala). Ok na ba to or may pwede pa iimprove? My fuel is shell fuel save hehe. By the way, got a 2.5G last month. So far satisfied!

yes sir normal lang yan ganyang figures sa fuel consumption ng hilux mo.