Electric Vios

**anonemus** · February 14th, 2011 11:03 PM

FAW Toyota may introduce new self-branded electric car

By Carmen Lee From Gasgoo.comFebruary 14, 2011

Gasgoo.com (Shanghai February 14) - Tianjin FAW Toyota is in the process of setting up its own brand, bjnews.com.cn reported. Sources within the joint venture said that the brand was already within the negotiating stage, and that research and development work on a brand new model would begin in the future. It is expected to be released within the year.
Information was leaked earlier on the vehicle, revealing that it would be based on the Toyota Vios subcompact (pictured) platform and would contain entirely self-made pure electric technology. Tianjin FAW Toyota General Manager Chen Dapeng stating that this would be the first step the company takes towards producing a self-branded vehicle.
Sources also confirmed that FAW Tianjin Toyota had already formally established its R&D facility to better suit the tastes of the Chinese market, which was reported to be completed last year. However, they refused to offer any clear information regarding the new vehicle.

Hope they sell this in Pinas :D

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china-new...c-110214.shtml

**istan** · February 14th, 2011 11:17 PM

With our super expensive electricity? Tapus, problem pa nyan...di ka makakalayo. Pag natrapik ka, tapus ubos na battery mo...tulak na yan. :D

Can anybody compute cost saving for electric vs gasoline 1.3L car?

**ghosthunter** · February 14th, 2011 11:19 PM

Chinese brand clone cars (electric or otherwise) will not sell in the Philippines.

Filipino buying market generally too conservative for such a radical move.

**tidus1203** · February 14th, 2011 11:38 PM

Electricity costs a lot here, this ain't the US or Canada...

**Altis6453** · February 14th, 2011 11:47 PM

Who are they kidding? THey can't even sell the Prius here. It's a whopping Php2+Million. Wonder how much this'll cost if Toyota makes it?

**ghosthunter** · February 15th, 2011 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Altis6453

Who are they kidding? THey can't even sell the Prius here. It's a whopping Php2+Million. Wonder how much this'll cost if Toyota makes it?

I doubt if they have plans of exporting it beyond China with the first generation of electric Vios.

**anonemus** · February 15th, 2011 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by istan

Can anybody compute cost saving for electric vs gasoline 1.3L car?

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Electricity costs a lot here, this ain't the US or Canada...

I'm no engineer nor am I good in math, pero subukan natin.

For a Chevy Volt (heavier than the Vios) to travel 160kms, it needs 39 kwh.
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/11/11...ore-than-the-g

Magkano kwh sa Meralco ngayon?

Distribution Charge (per kwh) 0-200 kwh 0.8547 201-300 kwh 1.2298 301-400 kwh 1.5836 401 kwh and up 2.1998
Supply Charge Energy (per kwh) 0.5832 Fixed Amount (per customer) 19.40
Metering Charges Energy (per kwh) 0.4176 Fixed Amount (per customer) 6.55
http://www.meralco.com.ph/meralco/Co...esidential.htm

So, let's see:

Distribution 2.198
Supply 0.582
Metering 0.417

Total 3.197 x 39 = Php 124.68 to travel 160 kms.

For a regular Vios to travel 160 kms, it will need 16 liters (10km/l).

So 16 liters x P49/liter = Php 784.00

Tama ba computation ko?

**tidus1203** · February 15th, 2011 12:11 AM

A Chevy Volt is NOT A PURE ELECTRIC VEHICLE. Its a so-called PLUG IN HYBRID. It still has an internal combustion engine that recharges the electric motor as well... Pag pure electric yan with no internal combustion engine I doubt it would be cheaper than a pure petrol...

**anonemus** · February 15th, 2011 12:13 AM

^ read the article I linked to, tidus. The Volt was run on pure EV and pure gas for comparison purposes.

The Volt can run on pure EV power alone up to 40 miles, I think. The engine kicks in when you go more than 60mph.

So tama ba computation ko?

**ghosthunter** · February 15th, 2011 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Electricity costs a lot here, this ain't the US or Canada...

That fact alone is the reason why I am for nuclear power in the Philippines. It is the only possible way to generate "clean" & cheap electric power.

All others have issues.

coal - cheap / dirty emissions
oil - expensive fuel
hydro - seasonal / potential eco damage / expensive
wind - output small / potential eco issues / expensive / limited output
solar - expensive / limited generation time / limited output
biogas - labor intensive / limited output