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    #21
    With the current direction of TMPC, I expect na itong bagong Vios will carry the same features ng Thai market Vios, while retaining both the 1.3L and 1.5L engines na gamit ng Vios dito. Kung may maiiba man sa features, very minimal na lang considering all of TMPC's releases starting with the Corolla Cross did not scrimp on all of the features found in other markets where Toyota vehicles are sold.

    Matagal nang 1.2L ang Vios sa Thailand. Since 3rd or 4th gen Vios pa so that the Vios will be included in the eco car program of Thailand.

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    #22
    ^hanggang kelan ba yung CARS Program?

    current gen Vios is enrolled kasi. if Toyota PH cannot meet the required 200K units, they might extend the shelf life of the XP150

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    #23
    Toyota Shows Off Left-Hand Drive 2023 Vios, Features Carryover Powertrains | CarGuide

    For the Laos market, it gets a 1.3-liter 1NR-VE engine making the same 98 horsepower and 122 Nm of torque. It also gets a carryover 5-speed manual or CVT (not Super CVT-i) gearbox. While Laos doesn’t get the 1.5-liter 2NR-VE, this lends credence to the possibility that the 2023 Vios will also carryover this engine for markets that need the extra 200-ccs of displacement such as the Philippines.

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    #24
    Sana yung PHDM vios will use the raize 1.0L turbo to compete with Almera.


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    Will the PH-spec Toyota Vios still have a 1.3-liter option? | TopGear PH

    While we don’t know when the Vios will debut here, news from Saudi Arabia confirms that Toyota still has a 1.3-liter for the popular sedan. While it still uses the same block as the previous version, there are some technical improvements to enhance fuel efficiency.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Sana yung PHDM vios will use the raize 1.0L turbo to compete with Almera.


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    Why would anyone want a weaker and more strained engine when we already have the 1.5L vios?

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Why would anyone want a weaker and more strained engine when we already have the 1.5L vios?
    if it will translate to better km/li figures, i'm for it.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if it will translate to better km/li figures, i'm for it.
    Uhh weren't you all about simplicity and less complex technology before??

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Uhh weren't you all about simplicity and less complex technology before??
    errr,
    we're speaking toyota vios and not bmw...
    but i'm comfortable with 60s VW air-cooled, as well.

    ... is the vios engine that complicated, as to warrant second thoughts?
    Last edited by dr. d; October 8th, 2022 at 01:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    errr,
    we're speaking toyota vios and not bmw...
    but i'm comfortable with 60s VW air-cooled, as well.

    ... is the vios engine that complicated, as to warrant second thoughts?
    I meant the proposed 3 cylinder 1.0L turbo with the additional turbocharger, intercooler and hoses. Its contrary to the prinicples you established before, the simpler the better... Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    I meant the proposed 3 cylinder 1.0L turbo with the additional turbocharger, intercooler and hoses. Its contrary to the prinicples you established before, the simpler the better... Or something like that.
    i did announce my preferences, on the assumption that the more complications, the more destinations to failure.

    so,
    how is the longevity performance of this 1.0 liter turbo'd engine?
    has it shown toyota's folly, one way or another, yet?

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i did announce my preferences, on the assumption that the more complications, the more destinations to failure.

    so,
    how is the longevity performance of this 1.0 liter turbo'd engine?
    has it shown toyota's folly, one way or another, yet?
    I dunno. Its been like less than a year here.

    But its a tiny 1.0L turbo engine. Just because its a Toyota doesn't mean its immune to increased wear and tear especially vs the 1.5L engine. As I remember you push cars past the 15 year mark. So its like a tiny bit of fuel savings vs possibility of more repairs in the future.

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    #33
    2023 Toyota Vios shown with Avanza 1.5L engine | Autoindustriya

    the Indonesian-spec Vios has been revealed with a bigger 1.5-liter inline-four.

    While it may have the same displacement as the PH-spec 1.5-liter 2NR-FE, it’s important to note that the new 1.5-liter Dual VVT-i engine in the 2023 Vios for Indonesia is actually called the 2NR-VE. If the name sounds familiar, that’s because it’s also the engine that’s driving the Avanza and Veloz.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Despite having factories in Indonesia, Toyota said that the 2023 Vios will be a completely-built unit (CBU) imported from Thailand. The reason behind this is that Toyota’s Indonesia plants are busy making the Avanza and Veloz which are taking up the majority of the production capacity.
    Possible that the PHDM Vios will be source back in Thailand as well like the gen 1 Vios. While the Santa Rosa assembly plant being retooled for the local production.

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    #35
    so this would be the new yaris sedan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozcity View Post
    so this would be the new yaris sedan?

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    yes. because vios in other markets was called yaris sedan.

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    #37
    No more manual handbrakes?





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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    No more manual handbrakes?




    explain, pls. or include the videos' time stamps.
    haba kasi nang videos.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 25th, 2022 at 07:14 PM.

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    #39
    Handbrake lever usually found in the middle console in older cars has now been replaced by button switch found in higher end cars like Altis and Camry.

    Photo is a Toyota Cross for sample.






    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    explain, pls. or include the videos' time stamps.
    haba kasi nang videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Handbrake lever usually found in the middle console in older cars has now been replaced by button switch found in higher end cars like Altis and Camry.

    Photo is a Toyota Cross for sample.


    ah, ok.
    selamat.

    i'll probably miss having to pull on something...
    but ladies will probably love it.

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