2019 Toyota Vios 1.3 XE

[kitoymonster]

Hi, I’m also getting mine on friday. Didn’t bother to test drive baka mabanga ko ang test car. Noob question, is it fine to manually downshift on this cvt when going down a steep and long downhill? Do I need to continually downshift by shifting to -M if it goes outside the engine braking speed or does it remain there? My only experience in driving is with my honda jazz gd cvt. Engine braking only happens when speed is around 30kph but it will continue to speed up to 60 or more if I leave it alone even if I set it to L.

[pythoglyphs]

Hi, I’m also getting mine on friday. Didn’t bother to test drive baka mabanga ko ang test car. Noob question, is it fine to manually downshift on this cvt when going down a steep and long downhill? Do I need to continually downshift by shifting to -M if it goes outside the engine braking speed or does it remain there? My only experience in driving is with my honda jazz gd cvt. Engine braking only happens when speed is around 30kph but it will continue to speed up to 60 or more if I leave it alone even if I set it to L.

Basically, here's what the owner's manual says (paraphrased):

When in low gears using shiftmatic mode (M), it stays there as long as you don't rev too high (red line) where the ECU will automatically shift up to protect the engine.

When in high gears using shiftmatic mode, it automatically downshifts when speed is slow, or to M1 if vehicle stops.

You can choose gears from M1 to M7.

[sirkosero]

Actually, The UP Diliman Academic Oval is 2.2km. So 6km is just under three rounds.

Thanks for the correction. But u all understand the point

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[sirkosero]

Hi, I’m also getting mine on friday. Didn’t bother to test drive baka mabanga ko ang test car. Noob question, is it fine to manually downshift on this cvt when going down a steep and long downhill? Do I need to continually downshift by shifting to -M if it goes outside the engine braking speed or does it remain there? My only experience in driving is with my honda jazz gd cvt. Engine braking only happens when speed is around 30kph but it will continue to speed up to 60 or more if I leave it alone even if I set it to L.

Wrong mistake not doing test drive. Paano pag nakuha mo na, di mo pala gusto ang ride?

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[StockEngine]

Hi, I’m also getting mine on friday. Didn’t bother to test drive baka mabanga ko ang test car. Noob question, is it fine to manually downshift on this cvt when going down a steep and long downhill? Do I need to continually downshift by shifting to -M if it goes outside the engine braking speed or does it remain there? My only experience in driving is with my honda jazz gd cvt. Engine braking only happens when speed is around 30kph but it will continue to speed up to 60 or more if I leave it alone even if I set it to L.

use the brakes. mas mura brake pads kesa sa cvt transmission

[kitoymonster]

Wrong mistake not doing test drive. Paano pag nakuha mo na, di mo pala gusto ang ride?

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Wala pa naman akong expectation since first brand new car ko pa to. Compared to my beater car, anything new will do.

Comfortable naman xa as a passenger sa taxi. Gusto ni wife ng sedan na more than 1.0 ang engine tapos AT/CVT tranny.


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[dr. d]

Wala pa naman akong expectation since first brand new car ko pa to. Compared to my beater car, anything new will do.

Comfortable naman xa as a passenger sa taxi. Gusto ni wife ng sedan na more than 1.0 ang engine tapos AT/CVT tranny.


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errr..
what is your beater car, po?

so wifey will drive?

[kitoymonster]

honda fit gd surplus po. Me and wifey will drive.


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[pythoglyphs]

use the brakes. mas mura brake pads kesa sa cvt transmission

Partly true. If hindi naman continuous at hindi naman high RPM/redlining, use engine brakes with the right gear WITH brakes. Pag nag overheat ang brake pads, baka madisgrasya ka pa due to brake fading and loss of control.

Key here is to watch your RPM when engine braking, use breaks as necessary and watch your speed (when driving on steep downhill inclines). Safety first

[ray_noel]

Partly true. If hindi naman continuous at hindi naman high RPM/redlining, use engine brakes with the right gear WITH brakes. Pag nag overheat ang brake pads, baka madisgrasya ka pa due to brake fading and loss of control.

Key here is to watch your RPM when engine braking, use breaks as necessary and watch your speed (when driving on steep downhill inclines). Safety first

What will be the rpm bruh to start stepping on the break? I does this but in my m/t... pag 3k rpm dun ako nag brebreak...


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[StockEngine]

Partly true. If hindi naman continuous at hindi naman high RPM/redlining, use engine brakes with the right gear WITH brakes. Pag nag overheat ang brake pads, baka madisgrasya ka pa due to brake fading and loss of control.

Key here is to watch your RPM when engine braking, use breaks as necessary and watch your speed (when driving on steep downhill inclines). Safety first

safety first? eh di brakes.. nilagyan na ng brake booster at brake assist. eh di gamitin. hindi naman yan manual

[pythoglyphs]

safety first? eh di brakes.. nilagyan na ng brake booster at brake assist. eh di gamitin. hindi naman yan manual

I'm saying depende yan, bro. First, know the capabilities of your car. If in doubt, check natin ang owner's manual:

* Downshifting - On a steep downgrade, downshifting helps maintain safe speed and prolongs brake life.

* Do not use engine braking on slippery road surfaces or at high speeds.

* Descending steep grades - When descending a steep grade, shift to lower gears, depending on load weight and grade steepness. Descend slowly, using the brakes only occasionally to prevent them from overheating.

All the above points are in the Manual Shift Mode (Shiftmatic) section.


Yung sinasabing brake assist, pang emergency situation lang yan.

"During emergency braking situations when it is necessary to depress the brake pedal with greater force, the break assist system provides braking assistance, thus enhancing breaking performance.

When the brake pedal is depressed hard or depressed more quickly, the brakes apply more firmly."

[kitoymonster]

Maraming salamat at may mga iba ibang braking techniques akong nalaman. Nung first time kong umakyat ng mountain road kasi ng brake lang ako either fully or slightly but never ko tinanggal paa ko pag downhill. Pagdating sa baba, amoy sunog yung driver side wheel area. So yun brake nalang for 3-5 seconds, release for a few seconds then brake ulit. So set kung tama yung pgka intindi ko, brake hanggang bumaba ang rpm, set gear to M1, then brake? Mg auto gear ba ang car to M2, M3 kung hahayaan mo lang?


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[pythoglyphs]

Maraming salamat at may mga iba ibang braking techniques akong nalaman. Nung first time kong umakyat ng mountain road kasi ng brake lang ako either fully or slightly but never ko tinanggal paa ko pag downhill. Pagdating sa baba, amoy sunog yung driver side wheel area. So yun brake nalang for 3-5 seconds, release for a few seconds then brake ulit. So set kung tama yung pgka intindi ko, brake hanggang bumaba ang rpm, set gear to M1, then brake? Mg auto gear ba ang car to M2, M3 kung hahayaan mo lang?


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Bro di ko kasi masabi yung exact gear, depende yan. Ginagamit ang engine break para kontrolado mo bilis (speed kills daw), so M1 or M3 depende sa pakiramdam mo sa makina. Basta wag siguro aabot nang 3000-ish rpm (maingay ang CVT). Mag auto upshift lang sya kapag nag red line (o may preset settings ang ECU) para maprotektahan yung makina. Again, "steep downgrade" pinag-uusapan dito ha, lalo na yung maraming curves.

Pwede naman talaga D lang gamitin mo, tapos brake lang, pero kung may skills ka na para mag engine brake why not. Mahirap mawalan ng preno. Mas mahal ang transmission kesa brake pads, pero mas mahal ang buhay kesa transmission

As for me, for regular stop and go traffic: brakes lang. For very steep downgrades: downshift with intermittent braking. Again, ang objective dito: safe speed and control. Be extra wary din sa engine braking when slowing down tapos may kasunod ka sa likod, hindi kasi umiilaw ang brake/tail lights mo. That's why use brakes as necessary.

Iba ibang opinion/diskarte naman yan, and I respect that. Pero yun nga, check lagi owner's manual

[sirkosero]

Wala pa naman akong expectation since first brand new car ko pa to. Compared to my beater car, anything new will do.

Comfortable naman xa as a passenger sa taxi. Gusto ni wife ng sedan na more than 1.0 ang engine tapos AT/CVT tranny.


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All the more reason to test drive.

With zero expectation, you will be at the mercy of agents trying to make money from you. Test drive a the vios, compare this with other cars within the price range, then decide which is best for you.... Unless you feel like blindly throwing 700k pesos for a car.

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[kagalingan]

magdagdag na lang kayo konti para honda city na. Eh hulugan nyo din naman babayaran.

Its time to move on from mamon to cheescake, from pandesal to croissant.

[chronicle]

magdagdag na lang kayo konti para honda city na. Eh hulugan nyo din naman babayaran.

Its time to move on from mamon to cheescake, from pandesal to croissant.

Haha. That is additional 2k din sa monthly bayarin ng mga nag loloan.

Honda city cvt is 868k
Toyota xe is 750k.
Not counting discounts though.



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[pythoglyphs]

Haha. That is additional 2k din sa monthly bayarin ng mga nag loloan.

Honda city cvt is 868k
Toyota xe is 750k.
Not counting discounts though.



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Toyota Vios XE is 735K to be exact. Aim for at least 2.5-3% discount from the sticker price of new variants, any car (Bank PO or maybe more if cash). Just don't expect you'll take home all the freebies e.g. keychain, umbrella etc.

[kitoymonster]

Haha. That is additional 2k din sa monthly bayarin ng mga nag loloan.

Honda city cvt is 868k
Toyota xe is 750k.
Not counting discounts though.



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Hahaha ouch, ito nga dahilan bat napunta ako sa XE. First choice ko City. 1k lang sana if 2015 City E kaso naunahan ako ng reserve.


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[StockEngine]

magdagdag na lang kayo konti para honda city na. Eh hulugan nyo din naman babayaran.

Its time to move on from mamon to cheescake, from pandesal to croissant.

same vehicle class naman. why pay a difference of over 100,000pesos for a slightly bigger engine?