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March 18th, 2014 11:27 AM #361
Looking at the fuel economy figures posted here, seems like the Wigo isn't any better than our 2006 1.3E Vios which we're thinking of replacing already.
Would be nice to see more computed fuel economy figures, not guesstimates like "one-fourth tank from here to there".
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March 18th, 2014 11:51 AM #362
13 km/l in light traffic is just about what I'd expect from my time with the car.
Sucks that the manual has such short gears. That's what holds the AT back on the highway, too. Both cars should do 20 km/l with a little work, but in my experience, the AT is nowhere near the Mirage's level on the highway.
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March 18th, 2014 12:06 PM #363No VVT versus VVT(Mivec) and with better power to weight ratio for the Mirage so it's no surprise that the mirage is thriftier on fuel despite the 200cc displacement difference.
Still, the price tag and the holy T badge will make this one a seller especially for automobile newbies which is precisely its target market.
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March 18th, 2014 01:33 PM #364
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March 18th, 2014 02:03 PM #366Gas mileage should be your basis, list your expectations: from important to least important
1. safety
2. comfort
3. space
4. FC
5. parts
OT, sometimes it is also how you feel when you see the car, are you excited to drive it?
My ride is 10yrs old, but I love every minute of driving.
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March 18th, 2014 04:23 PM #367
Mileage is based on several factors:
1. Tires - Wigo has skinny tires, this isn't the issue.
2. Weight - Negligible. They weigh the same.
3. Engine design - the Mirage 1.2 actually isn't as powerful as other modern 1.2s. Instead, they concentrated on making it ultra-efficient. This means that they optimized it for cruising rpm under the MIVEC activation (4k rpm) and the intake is absolutely tiny, even compared to some 1.0s. The Mirage exhaust is basically a straight pipe with NOTHING but a catalytic converter and a resonator. All the better for quicker exhaust scavenging and better efficiency.
4. Gearing - Wigo has pretty short gears. Mirage has longer gearing in both MT and CVT form.
5. Aerodynamics - It's pretty obvious when you look at them side-by-side, the Wigo's body is very squarish compared to the ultra-aerodynamic Mirage. Also, pay attention to the big grille. More gaping space there and less closed off area than the Mirage. The Wigo suffers a lot from aero-drag. Let off the gas to coast in neutral on the highway and it slows down more quickly and more dramatically than the MIrage.
The Mirage and Wigo are built to different targets. The Wigo is built to be as cheap as humanly possible. For that, they had to sacrifice some sophistication.
The Mirage is built to be as efficient as possible. This means more money spent on aerodynamics and engine engineering. Which is reflected in the price premium you pay versus the Wigo.
Consider, however, that even the base Mirage has a 1.2 liter motor, at just 500k. Everyone else is charging 600k for a 1.2.Last edited by niky; March 18th, 2014 at 04:28 PM.
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March 18th, 2014 05:27 PM #370Well I think sa heavy traffic yung halos nakastop lng mga sasakyan na parang parking lot (EDSA? :D), I think mas matipid ang Wigo sa Mirage. Just like other cars with smaller engine eon, alto, celerio, 1.0 spark, 1.0 picanto. Because I think yung idling sa traffic mas matipid maliit na makina.
Pero yun nga lang lahat nman tayong driver ayaw mastock sa traffic. Gusto natin moving. Now once gumalaw na ang sasakyan mas matipid ang Mirage because...
1.Better power to weight makes it easier to move from standing still meaning less revs needed less gas needed
2.Better aerodynamics makes it easier to break through air meaning wlang gaanong resistance sa hampas ng hangin. so less energy required less gas required.
3.Better AT tranny (for CVT) smooth/seemless ang shifting ng gears plus programmed on lower revs. Lagi nasa optimum level ang revs when increasing on infinite gear. Meaning walang excess revs walang excess gas. Sa MT as mentioned above has longer gearing
pero syempre! depende parin yan kung gaano kabigat ang paa mo sa gas pedal and techniques sa road para ma-achieve mo ang full FC potential ng car :D
But it appears the issue is only in those units coming from the Alabama, USA plant. Nevertheless,...
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