Usapang Boxing Thread

[Chadmack]

i would not call it a robbery simply because of the two KDs hopkins suffered. (think of pacman vs JMM I)

but hopkins did very good in the fight. controlled the fight after the he was knocked down. pascal landing some hard counters in the latter rounds might have given him the draw.

i had close. either draw or hopkins by narrow decision. those 2 KDs really helped pascal in the score cards.

how'dyou score the bout, bro?

i got the first 3to pascal, 10-8,10-9,10-8, then all the rest to Bhop. round 5 was close so it could have went the otherway. so i got a 115 - 111.

there are whiteout controversy and the fight is still being investigatd, more on the scorecards by the judges. some of the fight fans from Quebec also know Pascal should have lost the bout. particularly the 114-114 card. only way you could come up with that is give 6 to hopkins 4 to pascal and 2 even rounds, kinda odd. 113-113 i can see why it is so as there are close rounds. the 2 KD did save Pascal from the fight though. even Jean knows he got lucky to get the draw....

too bad for the old guy, that one would have been the last of his great performance.

ang nde ko talaga maisip kung pano natalo ni pascal si dawson nde ata focused nun si dawson pero sila ata yung next na maglaban.

[Chadmack]

Mayweather jailed in Las Vegas
By AP (The Philippine Star) Updated December 19, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (2)

LAS VEGAS – Floyd Mayweather Jr. spent a night in a Las Vegas jail before his release Friday on a misdemeanor battery warrant stemming from an allegation that the boxer poked a security guard in the face last month outside his home.
The second arrest in three months for the undefeated prizefighter drew allegations from his lawyer that police and prosecutors overreacted to a minor criminal accusation and that the 33-year-old Mayweather was getting “unequal punitive exaggerated treatment.”
“This is a misdemeanor,” attorney Richard Wright told The Associated Press. He noted that police usually write a ticket for a misdemeanor, or issue a court summons at the jail.
Wright accused District Attorney David Roger of “going out of his way to treat (Mayweather) differently than anyone else.”
Roger didn’t immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

sa takot ke Pacman, baka magpakulong na lang itong si Floydie....

hahahaha hinuhunting din daw sya ni Brock Lesnar para paglabanin na sila ni Pacquiao

[Chadmack]

not boxing but man! watch the flying kick! like out of the movies

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdqTwKBOB_4"]YouTube - WEC 53 Finale Anthony Pettis Vs Ben Henderson Flying Head Kick[/ame]

[Chadmack]

Donaire vs Montiel on Feb 19 :D its a good thing Nonito is fighting live opponent this time hehe. sayang kasi skills nya kung pangit lang kakalabanin, he could be great also....

[_Qwerty_]

hmmm Thrilla in Manila Part 2...

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx...bCategoryId=69

Legendary Don King mulls Thrilla Part II

MANILA, Philippines - Don King, who promotes boxers, makes fights and sells them like no other, is thinking of Thrilla in Manila Part II.

Manny Pacquiao vs Devon Alexander.

The flamboyant heavyweight figure said granting that Alexander gets past Timothy Bradley in their WBC light-welterweight clash on Jan. 29, he will work it out with Bob Arum, and make the fight happen.

King and Arum, who conspired in bringing the Ali vs Frazier trilogy to Manila on Oct. 1, 1975, were recently pictured together, smiling, back in each others arms following a feud that lasted for decades.

It seems that all’s well between them, and now they’re back doing business, starting off with the Miguel Cotto-Ricardo Mayorda promotion on March 12.

King, who wears his hair like it defies gravity, said Pacquiao vs Alexander (young, strong and undefeated) could happen.

“Well, we’re going to be working on it. I understand exactly where we are and I will make lonesome Bob happy and he won’t be lonesome any more,” the 79-year-old King told Fanhouse.com boxing editor Lem Satterfield.

“When we get past Tim Bradley, there won’t be anywhere else to go because we’ve talked about Manny Pacquiao for Ricardo Mayorga. But Devon Alexander is a Jewel of The Nile and he will be there shining brilliantly. When he wins this fight on Jan. 29, then he will be able to stand tall and to say, ‘Let’s do it.’

“So, categorically, we will jump through a hoop to get to Manny Pacquiao. That would be another Thrilla in Manila,” King told Satterfield.

Pacquiao, the greatest boxer of his era, is scheduled to fight Shane Mosley on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and experts insist that it’s going to be another victory for the fighting congressman from the Philippines.

Then, as King sees it, it could be a fight against Alexander next.

Maybe they can do it in Manila, in October, on the first, right on the 36th anniversary of that heavyweight thrilla.

[chua_riwap]

^ On what venue? The Dome?

Blockbuster yan. Sana nga matuloy.

[desert fox]

Donaire vs Montiel on Feb 19 :D its a good thing Nonito is fighting live opponent this time hehe. sayang kasi skills nya kung pangit lang kakalabanin, he could be great also....

nagiging bum ang opponent ni Nonito at Pacman or Excellent boxers as a whole dahil sa skills nilang taglay.......

its feb20 in the philippines...

Nonito the Filipino Flash vs. Montiel.

magandang laban ito........

dont miss it Filipino boxing fans!!!

[vito corleone]

nagiging bum ang opponent ni Nonito at Pacman or Excellent boxers as a whole dahil sa skills nilang taglay.......

its feb20 in the philippines...

Nonito the Filipino Flash vs. Montiel.

magandang laban ito........

dont miss it Filipino boxing fans!!!

why would i? hehhe. . .it has the potential to be fight of the year or makapaglabas man lang ng round of the year. . .montiel's wbo and wbc bantamweight crowns are on the line, right?

dame! namiss ko na naman ang tcash. . .calling master jedi!

[Zeus]

Boom Boom Bautista vs Alejandro Barrera rematch mamya sa Cebu

[desert fox]

why would i? hehhe. . .it has the potential to be fight of the year or makapaglabas man lang ng round of the year. . .montiel's wbo and wbc bantamweight crowns are on the line, right?

dame! namiss ko na naman ang tcash. . .calling master jedi!

yes...a big potential....

[desert fox]

Boom Boom Bautista vs Alejandro Barrera rematch mamya sa Cebu

goodluck boomboom...redeem your name..

[john5]

boom boom must improve his side to side movents and solidify his defense....good luck pinoy!

[desert fox]

boom boom must improve his side to side movents and solidify his defense....good luck pinoy!

malaman natin kung me improvement na nga sa movement nya si Boomboom....which is very doubtful....

[Zeus]

goodluck boomboom...redeem your name..

Panalo uli si Boom Boom bro

‘Boom Boom’ stops Barrera

abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 01/29/2011 11:42 PM | Updated as of 01/29/2011 11:42 PM


MANILA, Philippines – Filipino featherweight Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista knocked out his Mexican nemesis Alejandro Barrera in their Pinoy Pride 3: The Rematch fight in Cebu on Saturday.
The 24-year old Boholano proved that his earlier victory over Barrera was no fluke by halting the Mexican at the Waterfront Hotel in Cebu.
This was the second time Bautista defeated the Mexican.
The two first fought in a controversial encounter in the “Philippines vs the World” event last August 2010. The Filipino won by technical knockout after officials stopped the match due to a cut suffered by Barrera in the 4th round.
With the Jan. 29 win, Bautista improved his record to 30-2 (with 23 knockouts). Barrera on the other hand, fell to his 5th loss against 21 wins.
Pinoy Pride 3 was jointly presented by Antonio L. Aldeguer (ALA) Promotions and ABS-CBN Sports.
ABS-CBN Channel 2 will air the fight on Sunday at 10:30 a.m. There will also be a replay on Studio 23 at 9:30 p.m.

[desert fox]

Panalo uli si Boom Boom bro

oo nga broZeus...congrats Boomboom....

kung matindi lang yung nakalaban nya, bagsak na naman sana si boomboom...same old habit....gusto lagi makipagsabayan...

anyhow, he won in good fashion...a TKO...

[vito corleone]

mosley talks about his coming fight with pacman. . .scripted by bob arum?


http://ph.news.yahoo.com/mb/20110128...d-bf91d28.html

[SIZE=2]Pacquiao's fight style will be his downfall - Mosley[/SIZE]


Manila Bulletin - Friday, January 28


MANILA, Philippines - What makes Manny Pacquiao tick will make Pacquiao sink. This was the bold prediction of Shane Mosley, the US puncher who faces the Filipino star on May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. ''Being that Manny is a top, tough fighter. He's very fast and moves very well, punches very well, and he's very explosive, that will probably be his downfall,'' Mosley told Fanhouse. ''Being so explosive and so willing to be in a fight. That will be his downfall in the fight,'' stressed Mosley, adding that his ''speed and my hitting power and my physical strength are going to be a factor in the fight.'' Mosley is even taking a cue from his and Pacquiao's fight with Mexican mauler Antonio Margarito. ''Watching the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Antonio Margarito, I was kind of surprised at how many times Margarito was able to hit Manny Pacquiao, being that when me and Margarito fought, he didn't land that many shots on me,'' said Mosley. Mosley stopped Margarito in nine rounds in January 2009 when everyone thought Margarito was invincible, while Pacquiao took all of 12 rounds to beat him just late last year. ''I didn't get that many bruises or lumps or anything. That was just very surprising. And I know that Margarito, being able to land those types of shots, I should be able to land some good shots as well, being that I'm a lot faster.'' Not only that the 39-year-old Mosley stressed. ''I hit extremely hard. Even some cruiserweights that I've sparred with They will tell me how heavy and how hard my shots are.'' Pacquiao has opted to keep his mouth shut but will be compelled to deliver some peppery quotes when he and Mosley come face-to-face in a five-city press tour Top Rank chief Bob Arum is staging beginning February 10 in Beverly Hills. From Los Angeles, the traveling circus will go to Las Vegas, New York, Washington and possibly San Francisco. After the tour, both fighters will begin to prepare for training camp with Pacquiao holding the first half of his eight-week buildup in Baguio City and Mosley retreating to Big Bear, California.

[Cult Zero]

why would i? hehhe. . .it has the potential to be fight of the year or makapaglabas man lang ng round of the year. . .montiel's wbo and wbc bantamweight crowns are on the line, right?

dame! namiss ko na naman ang tcash. . .calling master jedi!

I can't wait for this fight.

masaya nung tcash

[vito corleone]

I can't wait for this fight.

masaya nung tcash

each of the fighters has the capacity to knockout the other. . .di aabot ng 12th round ang laban na yan

[tsupermario]

Donaire prepares for Montiel with family rift hovering over him
by Michael Rosenthal
Feb 16th, 2011

Nonito Donaire is preparing for the biggest fight of his life, against Fernando Montiel on Saturday in Las Vegas, with a family rift hanging over him. The reason for the rift? Money. Surprise!

Nonito Donaire isn’t the first fighter to experience the damaging effect money can have on relationships, even with those supposedly closest to you. Successful people in general often discover friends and family members they never knew they had.

The impact of the almighty dollar on Donaire’s relationship with his parents and brother has played out publicly in the Filipino media, though. Things have gotten so bad that Donaire’s mother actually told a reporter that she doesn’t care whether her son beats Fernando Montiel on Saturday in Las Vegas.

Cameron Dunkin, Donaire’s longtime manager, is concerned that the acrimony among those involved will affect his performance against Montiel.

Rachel Donaire, the fighter’s wife, isn’t as concerned because – as sad as it sounds – he is used to it. Besides, she is doing everything in her power to shield her husband from any non-boxing-related news as he prepares for the biggest fight of his life.

The only certain thing is that the situation has evolved into an enormous mess, one that will be very difficult to resolve.

“Money is the root of all evil,” Rachel Donaire said when asked to summarize the drama that has engulfed the Donaire family.

The facts surrounding the situation are convoluted but the following should give you an idea.

The trouble started in earnest when Donaire's father, Nonito Sr., ceased to be his trainer after a victory over Moruti Mthalane in 2008. The presumption has always been that son fired father but that wasn't the case, according to Rachel, who said the elder Donaire simply walked away when he was accused of pocketing camp money.

The fighter has been criticized by some in the Philippines ever since for what they perceive as disloyalty to his father, a former soldier.

Nonito Sr. told a reporter that he took only $240 of camp money, which he said he used to feed his staff.

Rachel called that a “half truth,” saying that in fact the amount was $1,240. And clearly that issue was only the last straw in a deteriorating professional relationship, as the fighter couldn’t find peace under a strong-willed father who he says treated him like a child.

Complicating the situation was the arrival of Rachel, who, as the fighter’s wife, suddenly had more influence over him than his family.

“I finally became my own man,” Donaire said in a story on Boxingnews’ Web site. “They were not ready to accept that. When I chose my wife, they were not ready to accept that. They did not want me to get married, they just wanted me to keep doing things that I’ve done for them and they wouldn’t accept my wife. … I love my wife. She’s done so much for me and when my dad … you see, the thing is, he was an old-school kind of guy, you know. So we got into it because he just commands and commands and commands. That’s the type of military mentality he has. You are always going to be wrong. There’s nothing you can say. Regardless if the whole world thinks you’re right, in my dad’s eyes I know it’s going to be wrong.

“And I’ve always been wrong in his eyes. That’s why I stuck to boxing, because I didn’t want to disappoint my dad. And it’s fine because I got to where I’m at now.”

That article exacerbated the situation.

Donaire’s mother, Imelda, responded in a subsequent interview with Filipino writer Anthony Andales, dimissing as “lies” her son’s comments about his father, the fact he said he was raised in poverty in the Philippines before the family moved to the U.S. and his contention that his siblings were favored over him .

“Enough is enough,” she was quoted as saying. “I have to air our side now, and wants (sic) to make my world champion son be aware that, we his family are listening to all lies, he thrown (sic) to us. He will certainly get a spanking from me if he won’t stop."

Donaire said his father was overbearing. His father said he was strict because he wanted his sons, Nonito and Glenn, to find success in the ring.

Donaire said his family was so poor that food had to be rationed. His mother said there was always enough for the family.

Donaire said his relatives saw the older Glenn as the one who would succeed and treated him better than Nonito. Nonsense, says his parents.

Yes, the gulf between them is wide on many issues.

However, money seems to be the overriding wedge between the family members. Nonito Donaire Sr., his ex-wife and Glenn, who say their sacrifices helped the younger Nonito find success, believe he owes them. And the fighter has obliged, although apparently not to their satisfaction

Rachel said she recently was approached by someone outside the family who said, “Your husband makes millions of dollars and you can’t give your family money?” Her response: “Who told you we have millions of dollars?”

The fact is Donaire is far from a millionaire. The most he has ever made in one fight is $250,000 and he probably hasn’t earned $500,000 total, of which he has kept a fraction after paying his handlers and taxes. Still, Rachel estimated that she and her husband have given the family around $200,000 over the past few years.

“Nonito can’t support his brother, his (brother’s) wife and kids, and his mother and father,” said Dunkin, who insists that Donaire and his wife live modestly. “I said to him, ‘Nonito, you don’t make that kind of money. You’ll be broke.’ I said, ‘What’s gonna happen when your career is over?’ I told him to bust his ass and make as much as he can, don’t spend any money, be smart, and when this is all over, you’ll have something.

“His family doesn’t see it that way.”

Donaire hasn’t said much publicly about the family rift, other than the aforementioned story.

That apparently will change, though. After the Montiel fight, he and Rachel plan to make a public statement, which will include cashed checks – endorsed by family members – that quantify the amount of money they received from Donaire.

That would set the record straight, which Donaire obviously feels is necessary because of the damage done to his reputation, but it might also exacerbate the situation further. And no one wants that.

“There’s a letter Nonito wrote to his mom about a year ago,” Rachel said. “He said he wished he never became a world champion because then no one would be fighting. He said, ‘If I didn’t have money, what would there be to fight about?’”

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...ering-over-him

nothing like a family drama before a big fight

[fourtheboys96]

I hope nonito wins his fight against montiel.

On a different light, based on what I've been reading in some boxing forums (read: gossip, opinions etc) , Nonito is not that admired by Filipinos in the US. And this is even before the his mother came out to talk about the family issues. He wants to be pacquiao but is not even close.

Parang yumabang ata nung naging champion.