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    Cognitive impairment for those who were infected by the veerus...



    An assessment of Covid's impact on cognitive function in 740 individuals finds "a relatively high frequency of cognitive impairment several months after patients

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    Wuhan was built by French, maintained by CCP. Research were internationally funded and shared with scientific community. Lab leak was clearly a negligence from CCP and not to be blamed to somebody else but China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Diba sa food market nag-umpisa yang wuhan virus, pati ba naman dito may revisionism. hahaha
    that's china's official explanation

    pero dahil may virology lab sa wuhan doing research on bat viruses, hindi madismiss ang possibility na galing sa lab ung virus

    last year pa naman ung lab leak theory

    pinag usapan lang uli ngayon dahil sa post ni kagalingan kagabi

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    did they explain what, exactly, they were attempting to accomplish, with that virus research?

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    12vdc,

    kung laboratory leak bakit kailangan magsinungaling ni paochi???? Ano tinatago ng amerkano demokrasya???? hmmmm

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    there's intentional "sinungaling",
    and there's "honest mistake".
    Last edited by dr. d; October 23rd, 2021 at 12:48 PM.

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    https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/23/...s-arrive-in-ph

    The Philippines received over 1 million more Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines on Friday.

    About 813,150 doses of the US-made jabs arrived at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Pasay City at 10 p.m., while 101,790 vials were delivered to the Cebu airport.

    Another shipment of 101,790 Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine doses will be sent to Davao on Saturday.

    Earlier Friday, 698,600 doses of AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine arrived for the private sector.
    Pfizer for children, AZN for the private sector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    did they explain what, exactly, they were attempting to accomplish, with that virus research?
    since viruses can jump from animals to humans, the goal of research is to identify viruses that can cause future pandemics -- to inform governments

    so the ultimate goal is for governments to prepare and develop countermeasures

    kinda like searching space for planet-killing asteroids that can crash into earth, launch nuclear missiles to destroy the asteroid ala Armageddon

    scientists experiment on viruses -- increase their transmissibility and/or virulence (speeding up their evolution) -- called gain of function

    that's obviously very risky coz if those viruses escape...
    Last edited by uls; October 23rd, 2021 at 01:06 PM.

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    kung ang follow question -- bakit sa china?

    kasi diyan galing ang SARS1

    tsaka na-ban kasi ang ganyan research sa US so they moved it to china

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    12vdc,

    kung laboratory leak bakit kailangan magsinungaling ni paochi???? Ano tinatago ng amerkano demokrasya???? hmmmm
    Sensitive info not meant tobe told to stupid sensitive Americans, tulad narin ng stupid pinoys madali mapaniwala ng misinformation.

    There were lapses in CCP for not maintaining the lab, nagpaka cheap kaya ayon tumagas. Kung sa for Detrick nangyari yan i guess it could have been contained and hindi umiiwas sa accountability mga kano like those nuclear test sites sa Pacific islands.

    Mali ang theory mo, pede na kita masoplak
    Last edited by 12vdc; October 23rd, 2021 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Over 1 million more Pfizer-BioNTech jabs arrive in PH | ABS-CBN News



    Pfizer for children, AZN for the private sector.


    yesterday late afternoon ito sa fe del mundo hospital sa banawe



    dami daw nag show up ubos agad

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Sensitive info not meant tobe told to stupid sensitive Americans, tulad narin ng stupid pinoys madali mapaniwala ng misinformation.

    There were lapses in CCP for not maintaining the lab, nagpaka cheap kaya ayon tumagas. Kung sa for Detrick nangyari yan i guess it could have been contained and hindi umiiwas sa accountability mga kano like those nuclear test sites sa Pacific islands.

    Mali ang theory mo, pede na kita masoplak
    eh bakit may biglang pumiyok siniwalat pagsisinungaling ni paochi???

    Ano gusto iLantad? Bakit may nagLadLad? hmmmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in the olden days, many doctors would willingly cross specialties and treat their patients for illness outside their diploma's realm of expertise.
    but times have changed:
    1. medical information is so plentiful and complicated nowadays, it is impossible to keep up with all specialties; and
    2. the threat of malpractice suits.

    the iggy issue is not as what it may appear to be, po. from what i understand, which is decidedly incomplete, medyo complicated yung kaso.
    From what my dr friend related (same specialty as Iggy), the case could have been defended & maybe settled out of court. The problem is, he wasn’t attending the hearings all the way to the Appelate court. The complainant btw is a lawyer & the complication is an infection at the suture site. I think it was a knee procedure but not sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    a little background lang

    when the world was blaming china for the virus china tried to shift the blame to the US

    calls for china to allow access to virology lab in wuhan, china called for investigation into US fort detrick

    china also said the virus was brought to wuhan by US soldiers (in 2019, military games were held in wuhan)



    --

    i wouldn't go as far as saying US soldiers brought the virus to wuhan

    i believe the virus originated in wuhan

    there was research being done on bat viruses in wuhan

    a US NGO called EcoHealth Alliance was funding research (using grants* from the US government)

    here's a 2018 article

    https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/20...eople-in-china




    it's probably an accidental lab leak

    for me the blame shouldn't be entirely on china

    the US should partly be blamed coz they were funding it


    *for those who don't believe the US government gave money to ecohealth alliance here's a US government website detailing how much money it gave to ecohealth alliance

    USAspending.gov
    But I heard the Chinese revealed only 98% of the genomic sequence which is suspicious & for some, validates the theory that it’s lab grown. China was also able to quickly manufacture vax for Covid, hundreds of millions of doses in a few months which makes it also suspicious considering those are not easy to make.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yesterday late afternoon ito sa fe del mundo hospital sa banawe



    dami daw nag show up ubos agad
    Has the gov't allowed the general public to get vaccinated or still only A1 to A5 categories pa rin?

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    Thailand and now Taiwan are mixing AZN then Pfizer vaccine....

    Taiwan residents who took AZ can take BNT for 2nd dose in November | Taiwan News | 221-1-22 18:46:



    An in-depth assessment of AZ then Pfizer vaccine immune response compared with 2 Pfizer doses, with better neutralizing antibody response by mix, across all major variants
    Immunogenicity and efficacy of heterologous ChadOx1/BNT162b2 vaccination | Nature

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    If you have recieved 2 doses of SINOVAC, a full regime of 3 doses of mRNA is recommended... in Singapore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    If you have recieved 2 doses of SINOVAC, a full regime of 3 doses of mRNA is recommended... in Singapore.

    3 doses means kasama booster or 3 doses regimen talaga?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    3 doses means kasama booster or 3 doses regimen talaga?


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    Kasama booster.

    You are only considered fully vaccinated for 4 months if 2 dose vaxxed with SINOVAC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    If you have recieved 2 doses of SINOVAC, a full regime of 3 doses of mRNA is recommended... in Singapore.

    Does this mean 4 months lang effectivity ng sinovac? I was so close to having no protection when I had covid! My second dose was May 15 and I caught it August 22

    I prefer a 3rd dose of sinovac sana over mRNA

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