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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Pag nasa 80s 90s ka na at nakakapag comfort room ka on your own eh maganda pa health nyan,.

    Ang hirap yun alagain na meron caregiver tapos iinom gamot lagpas 15 tablet prescription medicine tapos kailangan pa S2 prescription para makatulog. Hindi na productive life.
    are you suggesting....
    carousel! (logan's run).
    Heaven forbid!!

    but what do you know about taking care of others...
    from what you've been pouring here,
    you can't seem to take proper care of yourself.

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 14th, 2021 at 03:56 AM.

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    Adenovirus din sputnik diba?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Adenovirus din sputnik diba?


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    yes Sir


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yes Sir


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    So safeest bet as of now is newest tech and oldest tech muna.

    Pfizer/Moderna, sinovac.


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    #24565
    ^^^

    yes it's looking like that... wala clotting issues ang mRNA vaccines

    and so far wala rin ganyan issue ang sinovac

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    theory ko ung clotting may kinalaman sa immune reaction to the adenovirus

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    yes it's looking like that... wala clotting issues ang mRNA vaccines

    and so far wala rin ganyan issue ang sinovac

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    theory ko ung clotting may kinalaman sa immune reaction to the adenovirus
    Baka depende sa ginamit na virus


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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    The Johnson and Johnson vaccine was basically made for the 3rd world since its a single dose with lesser refrigeration requirements

    Sana pamigay na lang nila sa allies nila
    Hindi papayad si duque na bigay. Dapat bilhin natin.

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    #24568
    Whatever the vaccine, it's really time to get jabbed....unless you're fine w/ anal swabbing.[emoji849]

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    Disastrous for J&J Stock value ... Bagsak!

    The US, South Africa and European Union will temporarily stop the rollout of the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) Covid jab, after reports of rare blood clotting
    Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused over rare blood clots - BBC News

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    Might be useful for employers.

    Return-to-Work Criteria for Healthcare Workers | CDC

    Symptom-based strategy for return to work.
    HCP with mild to moderate illness who are not severely immunocompromised:

    At least 10 days have passed since symptoms first appeared and
    At least 24 hours have passed since last fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
    Symptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved
    HCP who were asymptomatic throughout their infection and are not severely immunocompromised:

    At least 10 days have passed since the date of their first positive viral diagnostic test.
    HCP with severe to critical illness or who are severely immunocompromised:

    At least 10 days and up to 20 days have passed since symptoms first appeared and
    At least 24 hours have passed since last fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
    Symptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved
    Consider consultation with infection control experts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Disastrous for J&J Stock value ... Bagsak!



    Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused over rare blood clots - BBC News

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    six clots out of over six million vaccinateds. that's 0.0001 percent.
    history will probably judge the vaccine in a positive way.
    but at this point, the manufacturers have to investigate it, lest they get sued for negligence or something similar.

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    Vaccine 101fb_img_1618368487064.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    six clots out of over six million vaccinateds. that's 0.0001 percent.
    history will probably judge the vaccine in a positive way.
    but at this point, the manufacturers have to investigate it, lest they get sued for negligence or something similar.
    How about here who were injected with Astra so far no blood clot issue with 1st dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    How about here who were injected with Astra so far no blood clot issue with 1st dose.

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    i vaguely remember,
    astra's figures (across europe?) were 37 reported blood clot cases out of over 30 million doses administered...
    that about approximates J&J's six out of six million.

    these figures might seem alarming today.
    but we must remember that the vaccine is being administered worldwide in very large numbers, over a very short period of time.

    if the vaccine were administered in the usual way in the past,
    the blood clot issue might not be noticed until after several many years have passed, if at all.
    i suspect, some of today's currently used vaccines (for other diseases) probably have more issues per million, but are not being noticed, because their usage history is stretched out over several years.

    the covid virus is making humanity do in a couple of years, what normally takes decades of years.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 14th, 2021 at 12:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    How about here who were injected with Astra so far no blood clot issue with 1st dose.

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    Wala. Maybe the White’s are more prone? Or proportionately more vaccines given to them?


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    #24576
    What are the symptoms, or how does one feel when he develops a blood clot? Baka mas hindi lang mareklamo ang mga pinoy and possible ba na these blood clots were unreported?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    What are the symptoms, or how does one feel when he develops a blood clot? Baka mas hindi lang mareklamo ang mga pinoy and possible ba na these blood clots were unreported?
    it depends on the location and on the size.
    for example, if it occurs in the brain, the person may show symptoms of the usual brain attack or "stroke".

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    What are the symptoms, or how does one feel when he develops a blood clot? Baka mas hindi lang mareklamo ang mga pinoy and possible ba na these blood clots were unreported?
    sa brain... stroke

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    #24580
    Maybe they should prescribe blood thinners sa viral vector vaccine recipients as a precaution.

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