Mazda CX-5

**RandMcnally** · September 17th, 2015 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by travajante

Please share your findings for archiving. Thanks.

The service folks saw an error while scanning. They did reset something and the errors were gone. I think it's similar to bmw/benz when replacing battery. Did not see any issues so far. It makes you think about the delicate and complex electronics that CX-5 has. My father is a staunch opponent of push start. There are more possible issues than benefits. I think I am already an anti push start convert.

Issue resolution and debugging though has gone high tech. No more guessing game. They can see almost everything in scans

**travajante** · September 17th, 2015 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by RandMcnally

The service folks saw an error while scanning. They did reset something and the errors were gone. I think it's similar to bmw/benz when replacing battery. Did not see any issues so far. It makes you think about the delicate and complex electronics that CX-5 has. My father is a staunch opponent of push start. There are more possible issues than benefits. I think I am already an anti push start convert.

Issue resolution and debugging though has gone high tech. No more guessing game. They can see almost everything in scans

Start a KEY-Back movement or revolution, sir.

..I'll be the 1st to sign up, even if it'll be an exercise in futility.

**Walter** · September 17th, 2015 11:26 AM

You still need an experienced technician to decipher error codes properly. There were instances before of BMWs and high end luxury cars having error codes in the fuel system and the culprit was just a loose fuel cap. Apparently, the pressure sensor in the gas tank lit up several error codes.

**RandMcnally** · September 17th, 2015 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

Start a KEY-Back movement or revolution, sir.

..I'll be the 1st to sign up, even if it'll be an exercise in futility.

Though, while I hate issues happening to me, I still think the technology has to move forward. If moving forward means going into the direction of push start and smart key fobs, then they have to continously improve it. Right now though, I hate push starts but we have to move forward

**RandMcnally** · September 17th, 2015 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

You still need an experienced technician to decipher error codes properly. There were instances before of BMWs and high end luxury cars having error codes in the fuel system and the culprit was just a loose fuel cap. Apparently, the pressure sensor in the gas tank lit up several error codes.

We will slowly have the right knowledge and expertise in the near future. Soon, everyone will have scanners in their casa just to keep up with the technology. I am guessing we are right at the start of a new technological change that was once only available in luxury cars

I am hoping for a future where all cars have direct link to car computers in the glove compartment or error monitoring in the car AV system making diagnostic owner friendly.

**kisshmet** · September 17th, 2015 05:27 PM

^that will go against the current business model of bringing the patient to the doctor

Making a doctor in most owners is a business proposition that will bring them out of business. they (manufacturers & dealers) wont do it that way. These error codes are closely guarded trade secrets

Your only hope to make this happen is a third party who possess the golden heart to emancipate consumers from the shackles of the main players of the car industry

**keithchan** · September 17th, 2015 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by speed_kills

For CX-5 2.5L AWD owners, how do you find its gas consumption?

Because if I base only at the trip computer, it seems I'm only doing about 4 km per liter in pure city driving.

Mine just reached its 1st 1000km, and the computer did tell me I average 14.9l/100km, or about 6.7km/L. Purely city driving and I use i-stop whenever i know its gonna be a long wait. Just wondering how much psi do you guys put on your 19"s?

**RandMcnally** · September 18th, 2015 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by kisshmet

^that will go against the current business model of bringing the patient to the doctor

Making a doctor in most owners is a business proposition that will bring them out of business. they (manufacturers & dealers) wont do it that way. These error codes are closely guarded trade secrets

Your only hope to make this happen is a third party who possess the golden heart to emancipate consumers from the shackles of the main players of the car industry

Yeah, it is completely different in the IT business wherein the direction is to push tools and dashboards to reduce the need of support for simple things. Something like self service support. Though in the bigger picture, the earnings of the dealers does not really affect the OEMs a lot. The dealer can earn money in service that does not really translate to income for OEM.

If the OEM can create value added features that may incentivize people to buy, then more income for the OEM. If they can create self service diagnostic that will make maintenance easier for the end user, more people would eventually buy or at least push more demand without sacrificing a lot of revenue for the dealers. If more people buy, more margins for dealers albeit lesser income on service. Yojin is free service for three years anyway so no real loss for the dealer

the old style business model of over reliance does not have a place in today's technology age.

**drvictorvondoom** · September 21st, 2015 02:08 PM

Hi! Planning on getting a CX-5 Pro. Any recommended dealers? Or any particular dealers to avoid?

How are your maintenance costs, outside of the Yojin warranty?

Thank you in advance for your inputs and advise.

**jisan948** · October 4th, 2015 03:24 PM

Hi folks, I'm getting the CX-5 Maxx via Bank PO. So far they offered me a 50k discount from the SRP of 1.344 M. I plan to put them on the spot after test drive to give me a 60k discount. Is a 60k discount a good deal? Or some other casa can offer 70 or even 80k as discount. By the way, the offeror was Mazda Sta. Rosa.