What brand of watch do you wear? [Merged]

[tsupermario]

Because it doesn't make sense if one can afford to buy original.

If for beater purposes why not just buy low to mid range price branded original.
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this hits the nail right in the head.

cheap and disposable does not always mean fake but are they as cheap as the fake ones? if they are then those buying fakes most likely arent aware that those products exist.

[Ry_Tower]

i don't buy a very expensive watch to tell the time with.
a timex can do that, and more accurately too, at a hundredth of the cost.
i buy a very expensive watch, so's i can flaunt it.

some of europe's royalty wear fakes, when appearing in public.
security issues and all that...

i wouldn't oris to divisoria.
and i don't ferragamo when crawling under the car.

I remember back in college when my GF and her BFF and I are going to PICC for bike riding and watch a concert. We pikced her BFF at Espana, Manila and she was wearing a Rado gold watch (her father is an officer seaman). I was aghast and immediately told her to use her beater casio instead.

Sabi ko kay GF baka ma-holdap kami eh.

[dr. d]

Because it doesn't make sense if one can afford to buy original.

If for beater purposes why not just buy low to mid range price branded original.


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we all have our personal quirks.
what might be illogical decision-making to one, might be a perfectly solid exercise in logical thinking, to another.

[shadow]

we all have our personal quirks.
what might be illogical decision-making to one, might be a perfectly solid exercise in logical thinking, to another.

Walang ibang dahilan but to show and pass it off as authentic tapos para 'bigtime' dahil pang laspag lang yun rollexx. [emoji23]


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[chronicle]

Sorry but I don’t get it why bought a knockoff and you’re gonna use it as a beater?

Diba kung pangharabas dapat reliable, dependable. There are lot more less expensive watches that are for sure more reliable than those fakes.

Some knockoffs are durable. Definition of beater for me is kahit maiwan or magasgas ok lang as long as it tells time which is the only reliable criteria for me tbh.

And this applies not only on watches.
Shoes for example. Heck, even "replacement" parts on cars. Pretty sure, majority of the people here have bought replacement parts and no one is batting an eye over it. Analogy lang yung cars btw to make a point.

kapag bata ang nagsuot ng relo at after a few weeks pa lang ay puro gasgas na, parang sayang nga kung orig ang ibibigay. better if cheap at disposable. yung orig siguro ay for special occassions.

Exactly. I've seen parents scolding their child on bakit di nila iningatan yung gamit, di mo ba alam na mahal yan. Sa loob loob ko, what are you expecting sa bata? Maging bato at wag gumalaw para mapreserve ang gamit?

Thats still considered as flaunting.


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For me flaunting is saying to everyone, yes they are the real thing and not acknowledging it is not. Mayabang ang definition ko.




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[dr. d]

Walang ibang dahilan but to show and pass it off as authentic tapos para 'bigtime' dahil pang laspag lang yun rollexx. [emoji23]


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well, that's your quirk, sir.
i am confident, the others have something else in mind.

when i wear my rolecks, i introduce it as a genuine fake, to whoever cares to listen.

[shadow]

well, that's your quirk, sir.
i am confident, the others have something else in mind.

when i wear my rolecks, i introduce it as a genuine fake, to whoever cares to listen.

don't think so. Only one reason Buying and wearing counterfeits, can't afford authentic and trying hard to belong.


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[Egan101]

A watch, specifically an automatic one with some complication of sorts, is a piece of jewellery. It has no other purpose than telling time in a complicated and mechanical way. For men, it's their only other piece of jewellery that they wear aside from their wedding ring (if married).

If you want to just have a simple way of telling you time, a reliable quartz watch can do it for you. It's a hell of a lot better than wearing a fake luxury watch and showing it off.

[shadow]

A watch, specifically an automatic one with some complication of sorts, is a piece of jewellery. It has no other purpose than telling time in a complicated and mechanical way. For men, it's their only other piece of jewellery that they wear aside from their wedding ring (if married).

If you want to just have a simple way of telling you time, a reliable quartz watch can do it for you. It's a hell of a lot better than wearing a fake luxury watch and showing it off.

Agree, wearing counterfeit is just to show off. Kahit convince mo pa sarili mo na Hinde yun ang intention mo but unconsciously yun want to project na original suot mo.

Kahit automatic meron din mga na mura lang.


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[jut703]

And this applies not only on watches.
Shoes for example. Heck, even "replacement" parts on cars. Pretty sure, majority of the people here have bought replacement parts and no one is batting an eye over it. Analogy lang yung cars btw to make a point.
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Bro I don't agree with the analogy. If you buy cheaper parts (i.e. Depo headlights vs orig), it's usually because you want to get the same acceptable function without the higher cost.

I'd say this is more analogous to getting a Seiko Sea Urchin (7k) vs a Submariner (450k). The Sea Urchin is not finished as opulently as a Sub but it tells time, has a robust automatic movement, and is rated for several hundred meters underwater.



Getting a fake watch is just like getting fake Brembo calipers.



Kunyari naka-Brembo, hindi naman pala. Mas okay pang nag-Project Mu pads kaysa pinatungan ng Brembo calipers yung stock brakes mo.

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[yubby24]

Agree, wearing counterfeit is just to show off. Kahit convince mo pa sarili mo na Hinde yun ang intention mo but unconsciously yun want to project na original suot mo.

Kahit automatic meron din mga na mura lang.


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Speaking of murang automatic, nakita ko itong automatic watch ng xiaomi. Ciga ang name. May nakakita na ba nito personally?

[Egan101]

Speaking of murang automatic, nakita ko itong automatic watch ng xiaomi. Ciga ang name. May nakakita na ba nito personally?

If you want an affordable and reliable automatic, you can't go wrong with Seiko or Orient or Citizen.

[Wh1stl3r]

A brand is a promise. Of a certain level of quality and for luxury items, prestige. Patronizing a company that profits from the pursuit of giving the impression of that other company's promise is an injustice imho.

If they are good enough to make passable copies of the original, they should be good enough to make something they can really call their own.

[chronicle]

Bro I don't agree with the analogy. If you buy cheaper parts (i.e. Depo headlights vs orig), it's usually because you want to get the same acceptable function without the higher cost.

I'd say this is more analogous to getting a Seiko Sea Urchin (7k) vs a Submariner (450k). The Sea Urchin is not finished as opulently as a Sub but it tells time, has a robust automatic movement, and is rated for several hundred meters underwater.



Getting a fake watch is just like getting fake Brembo calipers.



Kunyari naka-Brembo, hindi naman pala. Mas okay pang nag-Project Mu pads kaysa pinatungan ng Brembo calipers yung stock brakes mo.

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Your depo light vs orig is what im thinking about.
Same functionality differebt price. Another is air filters. Yes, they are not the same quality but it can do its job provided you know when to replace them,which is sooner than normal.

Im just speaking through experience here tbh.
I always wanted a gshock (elem days when gshock was the thing) but price was not acceptable since it will be just damaged by carelessness back in the day plus it is considered unnecessary. But as kids, we always had that one thing that we like and wont get over with no matter what. Parents bought over a somewhat respectable copy and it cured my itch back. But never did i "pinagyabang" na orig sya and im always telling everyone who asked that they are just copies.
Did i get the full experience, no, will i remember the experience when i was a child if they bought the real ones, no as well. But it did cure my itch.
Until i bought a real one on my own money.

Did my parents do the wrong thing by buying a copy one back in the day? No, but i see their logic behind it and it makes sense that's why i said that it is alright buying a copy one as long as you are aware of it and not to pass it as the genuwayn one. [emoji3]

I guess im a minority here as most here are watch connoisseur and feel strongly about the topic which i really get din naman.

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[c_cube]

Kung hindi kaya original, huwag na bumili ng fake. Bili nalang nun pasok sa budget basta original

Kung gusto pang araw araw, maraming brands na hindi fake na matibay at maganda. Na kahit magasgas hindi panghihinayangan.

Like g-shock 3k to 5k makakabili ka na. Tells time, day, date, with WT, SW, etc



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[n_spinner06]

Your depo light vs orig is what im thinking about.
Same functionality differebt price. Another is air filters. Yes, they are not the same quality but it can do its job provided you know when to replace them,which is sooner than normal.

Im just speaking through experience here tbh.
I always wanted a gshock (elem days when gshock was the thing) but price was not acceptable since it will be just damaged by carelessness back in the day plus it is considered unnecessary. But as kids, we always had that one thing that we like and wont get over with no matter what. Parents bought over a somewhat respectable copy and it cured my itch back. But never did i "pinagyabang" na orig sya and im always telling everyone who asked that they are just copies.
Did i get the full experience, no, will i remember the experience when i was a child if they bought the real ones, no as well. But it did cure my itch.
Until i bought a real one on my own money.

Did my parents do the wrong thing by buying a copy one back in the day? No, but i see their logic behind it and it makes sense that's why i said that it is alright buying a copy one as long as you are aware of it and not to pass it as the genuwayn one. [emoji3]

I guess im a minority here as most here are watch connoisseur and feel strongly about the topic which i really get din naman.

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Status symbol kasi yan. Nawawalan ng prestige pag madami na meron.

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[tsupermario]

I guess im a minority here as most here are watch connoisseur and feel strongly about the topic which i really get din naman.

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me thinks as the value of the watch goes up so does the level of disgust/aversion to its fake variety.

3k for a gshock is a lot of money for some folks and just to give the watch to their kid? they’d find something cheaper. unfortunately not all of them know how to look. basta mukhang orig at matibay pwede na [emoji51]

[chronicle]

me thinks as the value of the watch goes up so does the level of disgust/aversion to its fake variety.

3k for a gshock is a lot of money for some folks and just to give the watch to their kid? they’d find something cheaper. unfortunately not all of them know how to look. basta mukhang orig at matibay pwede na [emoji51]

No one can blame them. You spent years trying to acquire the costly watch that you've been dreaming only to see it on the banketa and it is near perfect copy. Iinit talaga ulo mo.

Sa kiddos talaga, details are not that important.

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Back to my car analogy. Rota comes to mind as well. Afaik they built their company by copying designs and being an oem at some point. (Correct me if im wrong). Copy yes. But at least may quality.

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[remzam]

No one can blame them. You spent years trying to acquire the costly watch that you've been dreaming only to see it on the banketa and it is near perfect copy. Iinit talaga ulo mo.

Sa kiddos talaga, details are not that important.

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Back to my car analogy. Rota comes to mind as well. Afaik they built their company by copying designs and being an oem at some point. (Correct me if im wrong). Copy yes. But at least may quality.

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But copying design is technically different from copying the exact model and presenting it as original sir chronicle.

Halimbawa, sa fashion industry, walang IPR dyan. Pwede mo gayahin yung usong style, but present it as your own brand.

Nung elementary/HS days ko, nauso yung "topsider" shoes. Syempre ang pinakasikat at branded nun ay yung Sperry. Boat shoes pala tawag dun. Dahil di kaya ng budget namin nun, sa Swatch shoes bagsak ko. Ganun ang style pero di pekeng Sperry.

Parang sa Raon, dati bibili ka ng "component". Mura lahat. Ang huli tatanungin sayo ng tindero/technician, "Sir ano gusto nyong brand? Sony? Sharp? Aiwa? JVC? Toshiba?" Tapos bubuksan drawer iba-ibang emblem ng brands na ididikit sa "component" mo.

(BTW let me just commend all the ladies and gentlemen here. Wala napipikon. Many are passionate about watches. Meron, sabi nga ni Chronicle, minority. Pero healthy and mature discussion lang . Which is what this should be...)

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[jut703]

No one can blame them. You spent years trying to acquire the costly watch that you've been dreaming only to see it on the banketa and it is near perfect copy. Iinit talaga ulo mo.

I personally don't think that's nakakainit ng ulo. You know within yourself that you have a legit luxury watch and it's never gonna be the same as a cheap counterfeit (no matter how accurate the copy is).

Part of the allure of a luxury watch is that you have on your wrist a watch with horological and financial significance - both of which are lacking from a knockoff.

Back to my car analogy. Rota comes to mind as well. Afaik they built their company by copying designs and being an oem at some point. (Correct me if im wrong). Copy yes. But at least may quality.

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Again, the Rota Grid vs Volk TE37 is like the Seiko 5 vs Submariner. While the Grid pays homage to the Sub and its design is heavily inspired by the Rolex, it's a totally separate product in itself.

Magkaiba ang Rota Grid sa TE37 copy. The TE37 copy is an outright fake/replica.

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