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We have cable broadband at home. It took 30 minutes to download a Linux dvd iso and around 10 minutes to download the Ubuntu cd iso. That's fast. Yet, once Ubuntu is installed and auto-updates kick in, it's glacially slow:


Sorry to rain on people's parades. But, Microsoft's and Apple's servers are nowhere this slow. This simply sucks.

Servers shmervers.

Maybe you can further substantiate this with a similar screenshot where XP SP3 is being downloaded? The installed XP should be a freshly-installed SP2 version.

Or maybe stock Vista, then download SP1.

Then time this: Start from the time you update synaptic until all the updates are installed.

With Vista: Start the timer when you start updating until SP1 has been installed.

With XP: Start the timer when you start updating until SP3 has been installed.

This should even up the playing field.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Servers shmervers.

Maybe you can further substantiate this with a similar screenshot where XP SP3 is being downloaded? The installed XP should be a freshly-installed SP2 version.

Or maybe stock Vista, then download SP1.

Then time this: Start from the time you update synaptic until all the updates are installed.

With Vista: Start the timer when you start updating until SP1 has been installed.

With XP: Start the timer when you start updating until SP3 has been installed.

This should even up the playing field.

I'd say Vista SP1 took the longest to install and that's already having the file downloaded earlier. I recall XP SP3 didn't take that long. With Ubuntu, the download from the server was the limiting factor. Otherwise, the updates themselves were pretty speedy. I downloaded again later and I got a steady 800kb/sec. So, yup. I take back that remark I made earlier.

But, hey. I grumble all the time when things don't seem right. But once things settle down, it's "Ooops. I guess I was wrong". Happens all the time.

Of course, Vista SP1 was on a laptop with a 4200rpm SATA hard drive. XP Home SP3 was on my main desktop pc with fast 7200rpm hard drives. The Ubuntu updates were from within VMWare Server of that same laptop.

[woohoo]

I'd say Vista SP1 took the longest to install and that's already having the file downloaded earlier. I recall XP SP3 didn't take that long. With Ubuntu, the download from the server was the limiting factor. Otherwise, the updates themselves were pretty speedy. I downloaded again later and I got a steady 800kb/sec. So, yup. I take back that remark I made earlier.

But, hey. I grumble all the time when things don't seem right. But once things settle down, it's "Ooops. I guess I was wrong". Happens all the time.

Of course, Vista SP1 was on a laptop with a 4200rpm SATA hard drive. XP Home SP3 was on my main desktop pc with fast 7200rpm hard drives. The Ubuntu updates were from within VMWare Server of that same laptop.

That's more like it... A good discussion of more factors that contribute to the subject task (updating new installations of common OS'es)...

:clap:

[Jun aka Pekto]

That's more like it... A good discussion of more factors that contribute to the subject task (updating new installations of common OS'es)...

:clap:

Oh, that just me when I gripe. I may gripe about Linux. But, that's only because it has so much potential. It's just the little things which keep it from greatness.

I've used up many dvdr/cdr blanks discs in the past testing out various Linux distros. I decided to switch to virtualization software so I can use the iso images themselves and save on discs.

It's a good thing VMWare Server is free. For me, it seems to be the best of the freebies.

[overdrayv]

Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope' officially released

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

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Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope' officially released

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

Woohoo!!!! :D

Time to update.

[CtrlAltDel]

That's one thing I like about Linux- out of the myriad distros out there, you'll likely find one that you're comfortable with. In my case, that would be Linux Mint. I've already installed and removed from my computer Ubuntu 9.04, Mandriva 2009.1, PCLinux OS 2009, Fedora 10, Sabayon 4.1 and OpenSuse 11.1. In each case, I always find something wrong. Ubuntu and Mandriva did not respond as smoothly as I expect. PCLinux lacked the necessary package to utilize sub-pixel smoothing for fonts. Fedora had this puzzling behavior of trying to update but not getting anything. OpenSuse did not correctly detect the correct aspect ratio and size of my LCD... So on and so forth...

Figure 1: Here's a screenshot of my laptop's desktop. Linux Mint 6 installed with VMWare Server 2 running XP as as guest OS.


Figure : So long as I'm not multi-tasking on the host OS, my laptop's system resources (Aspire 4736z) are barely breaking a sweat. Plenty of muscle and speed to spare.



Not Mint. It's a quite performer, solid as a rock and plays well with software not readily available in its repos (like VMWare Server 2). Easy to maintain and quick on its feet. So it is the distro not only on my desktop but also on my laptop

By the way that VMWare Server updates the guest OS right down to the last WinXP hotfix as of 2 days ago, USB-2 enabled with sound and video all working. Guest's Internet works through the host OS's wifi connection to a router which is in turn connected to smartbro.