Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[Ry_Tower]

Is anyone here using Samsung Windfree airconditioner? ... How is it? ...

Seems okay. Got it for a good deal at just P20K eh for the 1hp one. Effective yung windfree system lalo na if malapit ka sa AC. Kapag malamig na room, we activate it. Seems mas matipid nga kung ganun.

[Walter]

TCL ... Daikin ... split type inverter aircons ... can those who are using these brands give feedback ... Is the Daikin worth the price premium over TCL? ... Will the savings in electricity offset the price premium of Daikin over TCL? ...

Open to suggestions from other brands ... 2.0 HP ... 24-25 square meter room ...

[carxynogen]

TCL ... Daikin ... split type inverter aircons ... can those who are using these brands give feedback ... Is the Daikin worth the price premium over TCL? ... Will the savings in electricity offset the price premium of Daikin over TCL? ...

Open to suggestions from other brands ... 2.0 HP ... 24-25 square meter room ...

Daikin user here since 2022, satisfied naman ever since.
Advantage ng Daikin na nagpadagdag ng saving is the human sensor.
May auto detection siya na if walang tao sa loob ng room, mag fallback yung ambient temp setting niya by +2 deg.
Tinanggal na ata to sa latest model nila due to cost cutting measure.

For that sq.m room, I suggest to go for 2.5HP which is ideal for 20-35 sq.m.
Mas mamaximize niya yung pagka inverter niya if ioversize mo yung unit over the area.
That 2HP is for 15-25 sqm only if real world use ang usapan.

As for savings, I have 2 Inverter ACs sa bahay, 1 is Windows Type and the other is 1.5HP Daikin Split.
May Inverter Ref din ako.
Monthly rate ko sa kurente is naglalaro sa 3k-3.5k ave, mahal electricity rate sa place ko compare sa Luzon area.
Heavy ang usage nyan sa Daikin AC ko, parang 18-20 hrs ata ave usage namin sa Daikin AC.

Also if malapit kayo sa ilog/putrid water, I suggest na pinturahan mo yung evaporator ng Anti-Rust.
Yung sa left side, kakalawangin yang part na yan if malapit kayo sa area na yan.

[Walter]

3T bill for 18 hours use is crazy cheap ... Daikin King series still has that sensor ...

[LOLZ]

For that sq.m room, I suggest to go for 2.5HP which is ideal for 20-35 sq.m.
Mas mamaximize niya yung pagka inverter niya if ioversize mo yung unit over the area.
That 2HP is for 15-25 sqm only if real world use ang usapan.

Makikisabay lang ng tanong, okay ba ung Carrier Aura na 2.5HP and Carrier/Midea-based Split types in general?

On paper it looks like a derated 3.0 HP unit (25,500 kJ/h rated; 33K Max which seems to be close enough to what Midea(MSCE-25CRNF8 -25,320 Kj/H rated; 26,900 kJ/h(25,500 BTU/h) max) and Daikin (D-Smart Queen FTKC71AVA- 24K BTU/h(25,320kJ/h) rated; 24.5K BTU/h(25,850 kJ/h) max) rates their 3 HP units at.

[carxynogen]

Wierd yung forum reply ngayon. One liner lang yung input response editbox. Ayaw pa mag proceed dahil response is too short daw.

[carxynogen]

Makikisabay lang ng tanong, okay ba ung Carrier Aura na 2.5HP and Carrier/Midea-based Split types in general?

On paper it looks like a derated 3.0 HP unit (25,500 kJ/h rated; 33K Max which seems to be close enough to what Midea(MSCE-25CRNF8 -25,320 Kj/H rated; 26,900 kJ/h(25,500 BTU/h) max) and Daikin (D-Smart Queen FTKC71AVA- 24K BTU/h(25,320kJ/h) rated; 24.5K BTU/h(25,850 kJ/h) max) rates their 3 HP units at.

I am not a fan of Carrier brand actually, but my bad experience was from their window type.
Sa circuit nila, may device dun na mag titrip on a certain ocassion ng overload use.
Sa time na yun, palaging may low voltage sa area namin which in turn will switch our electricity on/off for 3 times.
Hindi naman siya nagloko earlier sa instance na yun.
It was during summer ata na medyo na overuse namin yung AC at nagloko na naman electricity supply namin (low voltage).
After nun, hindi na mag ON ang AC kaya tumawag kami sa technician ng Carrier.

Dun namin nalaman na may i switch lang sa loob ng circuit, tinanong namin yung technician paano yun galawin.
Hindi i reveal, certified technician lang daw dapat gumagawa nun.
Don't tell me everytime mangyari yun, tatawag tayo sa technician nila para lang i reset yung part na yun.

[dr. d]

I am not a fan of Carrier brand actually, but my bad experience was from their window type.
Sa circuit nila, may device dun na mag titrip on a certain ocassion ng overload use.
Sa time na yun, palaging may low voltage sa area namin which in turn will switch our electricity on/off for 3 times.
Hindi naman siya nagloko earlier sa instance na yun.
It was during summer ata na medyo na overuse namin yung AC at nagloko na naman electricity supply namin (low voltage).
After nun, hindi na mag ON ang AC kaya tumawag kami sa technician ng Carrier.

Dun namin nalaman na may i switch lang sa loob ng circuit, tinanong namin yung technician paano yun galawin.
Hindi i reveal, certified technician lang daw dapat gumagawa nun.
Don't tell me everytime mangyari yun, tatawag tayo sa technician nila para lang i reset yung part na yun.

i think it's in youtube now.
heh heh.

[LOLZ]

I am not a fan of Carrier brand actually, but my bad experience was from their window type.
Sa circuit nila, may device dun na mag titrip on a certain ocassion ng overload use.
Sa time na yun, palaging may low voltage sa area namin which in turn will switch our electricity on/off for 3 times.
Hindi naman siya nagloko earlier sa instance na yun.
It was during summer ata na medyo na overuse namin yung AC at nagloko na naman electricity supply namin (low voltage).
After nun, hindi na mag ON ang AC kaya tumawag kami sa technician ng Carrier.

Dun namin nalaman na may i switch lang sa loob ng circuit, tinanong namin yung technician paano yun galawin.
Hindi i reveal, certified technician lang daw dapat gumagawa nun.
Don't tell me everytime mangyari yun, tatawag tayo sa technician nila para lang i reset yung part na yun.

I think may nabasa rin ako parang ganyan ang experience with their Inverter WT pero before pandemic pa kaya nagbabakasakali baka naayos na nila ung issue medyo nakakadismaya if until now ganyan parin lalo na if kelangan pa ng technician na baklasin un unit para mareset. medyo OT pero did you end up keeping ung carrier na WT ?

[dr. d]

two of our carrier window types sprung leaks. prematurely, i opine.
sabi ng third-party repairman, "kung ganyan ang kalidad ng carrier, kuha na lang kayo nang china brand. siguro naman ay kasing tagal ang buhay niya, nguni at mas mura naman".
hmmm...

[oj88]

Back in the 70's and 80's, the main failure points of window A/Cs were the metal base. They rusted through in a matter of a few years. The sweet spot was when they started transitioning to a plastic base. But eventually, in the name of efficiency and manufacturing cost-savings, they also started using materials that were relatively lighter and thinner (ie. coils, compressor), and then the trouble shifted to those parts.

[carxynogen]

I think may nabasa rin ako parang ganyan ang experience with their Inverter WT pero before pandemic pa kaya nagbabakasakali baka naayos na nila ung issue medyo nakakadismaya if until now ganyan parin lalo na if kelangan pa ng technician na baklasin un unit para mareset. medyo OT pero did you end up keeping ung carrier na WT ?

Ilang ulit lumabas yung issue, binenta ko na sa willing mag ayos.
Not worth yung effort na baklasin para ma reset.
Ang mahal pa naman ng unit na yun.

[LOLZ]

two of our carrier window types sprung leaks. prematurely, i opine.
sabi ng third-party repairman, "kung ganyan ang kalidad ng carrier, kuha na lang kayo nang china brand. siguro naman ay kasing tagal ang buhay niya, nguni at mas mura naman".
hmmm...

Strike 2 for carrier i guess.

Ilang ulit lumabas yung issue, binenta ko na sa willing mag ayos.
Not worth yung effort na baklasin para ma reset.
Ang mahal pa naman ng unit na yun.

Ah i see, what model did you replaced it with ? Had good luck with the Hitachis(even though they have a reputation for moisture ingress issues) but it seems they made it worse lately atleast the specs on the nameplate suggests to be so.

[carxynogen]

Ah i see, what model did you replaced it with ? Had good luck with the Hitachis(even though they have a reputation for moisture ingress issues) but it seems they made it worse lately atleast the specs on the nameplate suggests to be so.

Hitachi Inverter but na undersize ko (0.8HP), may issue lumabas na mag ice yung evaporator.
Need ko pa patuyuin/melt yung ice para bumalik sa dating lamig buga niya.
Yung ambient sensor kasi nasa malapit sa evaporator kaya akala niya malamig na room when this issue happen kaya pahinain/off niya compressor prematurely.
Hindi ko napaayos since sobra din kasi gumagamit chikiting ko ng AC kaya siguro ganyan behavior niya.

Lately, nag Panasonic Inverter WT na ako, no issue so far for 3 yrs ownership.
My Carrier before, less than 1 yr lumabas nung issue niya, kaya mas happy ako sa Panasonic Inverter ko ngayon.
Mas tahimik pa at closely similar yung noise level sa Split Type.

[Mask Rider Blac]

Ung sa amin, nalalaman ko na nagyeyelo kapag humihina ang lamig. Naba block na kasi ang airflow. Kahit 3-4 times a month naglilinis ng filter, may alikabok pa rin na nakakalusot at kapag naipon doon na nagsisimula magyelo..usually 4-6mos.

[LOLZ]

Un pala ung purpose ng isa pang sensor na nakabit deretso sa copper tube ng evaporator ng non-inverter panasonic namin - pang monitor ng frost buildup.

[travajante]

Ung sa amin, nalalaman ko na nagyeyelo kapag humihina ang lamig. Naba block na kasi ang airflow. Kahit 3-4 times a month naglilinis ng filter, may alikabok pa rin na nakakalusot at kapag naipon doon na nagsisimula magyelo..usually 4-6mos.

Want longer cleaning interval? To prevent all the dirt & moisture gelling up, run the AC on fan for a while before turning off. My practice is around 30mins to dry everything.

[Walter]

two of our carrier window types sprung leaks. prematurely, i opine.
sabi ng third-party repairman, "kung ganyan ang kalidad ng carrier, kuha na lang kayo nang china brand. siguro naman ay kasing tagal ang buhay niya, nguni at mas mura naman".
hmmm...

Carrier is rebadged Midea ...

[oj88]

Want longer cleaning interval? To prevent all the dirt & moisture gelling up, run the AC on fan for a while before turning off. My practice is around 30mins to dry everything.

That's right. I run an automated routine to do this when we turn off each A/C.

Drying up the evaporator coils after use impedes the growth of mildew, algae and other bio mass that takes the form of a slimy gel-like substance.

[oj88]

Carrier is rebadged Midea ...

AFAIK, Toshiba invented the inverter tech for HVACs in the 80s.

There was the Carrier-Toshiba partnership back in the late 90's to use some of those tech, but when Midea acquired some 80% stake of Toshiba in 2016, Carrier is now dealing with Midea. So if it gives anyone some comfort, both Carrier and Midea (including a smattering of other brands) utilizes some, if not most of Toshiba's inverter tech.