Smartphone and Cellphone Wars

[uls]

using Samsung as an example...

a person decides to get a Galaxy A instead of a J... so status symbol dapat yung A?

Higher end A series phone will get longer Android updates which means a longer use for the phone. di pa ba sulit yun?

sa iPhone naman, you get 5 years iOS support. then knowing App developers will support upto 3 years ng old OS, that's a good 8 years magagamit mo yung phone.

may kilala ka bang tumagal ang Galaxy A ng more than 5 years?

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(my personal opinion)

Phone is a tool... its something we can't live with.

some people don't cook at home, yung iba walang TV, yung iba di na nagbubuklat ng newspaper...

no hindi status symbol ang android kahit anong android

di rin status symbol ang iphone SE

[ice15]

no hindi status symbol ang android kahit anong android

di rin status symbol ang iphone SE

Vertu runs Android.

wala naman kalaban iPhone... wala naman ibang phone na iOS

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Ako last iPhone na daily used was the iPhone 4, after nun either Galaxy Note, S or Pixel ako (2 year cycle)

Yung iPhone ko pang travel ko lang kasi mas aayos sya paired sa GoPro and Drone (+ other gadgets) ko

pero mukhang balik iOS na ako this year... napuputol kasi wireless Android Auto ko, unlike sa iOS na stable.

[uls]

Vertu runs Android.

wala naman kalaban iPhone... wala naman ibang phone na iOS

di ko sinabi hindi status symbol ang iphone

sabi ko po hindi status symbol ang iphone SE

[ice15]

^oo nga. para sa akin, hindi "status symbol" ang iPhone 13 Pro

kasi in reality... walang cheaper alternative ang iOS

kahit magkano pa bili mo sa Android phone mo, di nya kaya magsend ng iMessage at maki Facetime... di ka din pwede padalhan ng photos using Airdrop. di ka din pwedeng gumamit ng Apple Watch.

kaya hindi status symbol ang iPhone... may mga tao lang talaga na prefer sya gamitin kasi mas madali buhay nila sa iPhone.

[Ry_Tower]

no hindi status symbol ang android kahit anong android

di rin status symbol ang iphone SE

Are you sure? hehe

With some android phones' prcie tag, halos pareho na sa iPhone eh. Lalo na Samsung.

Kahit pa sabihing Rolex and iPhone at Omega ang Samsung TOTL, they're both status symbol nowadays.

Kaya nga madami ka pa din maririnig na nagtatanong kung anong model yung Samsung na hawak eh. Siyempre confirmation ng price. Ganun naman mga pasosy.

[dr. d]

a status symbol... depends on one's status...

a vios can be a status symbol in the slum areas,
but it will hardly be considered such,
in dasma makati.

same with 'most anthing.

personally,
i won't flaunt it because it's a status symbol.
i'll flaunt it (to the right neighborhood, of course), because i like it.

[uls]

Are you sure? hehe

With some android phones' prcie tag, halos pareho na sa iPhone eh. Lalo na Samsung.

Kahit pa sabihing Rolex and iPhone at Omega ang Samsung TOTL, they're both status symbol nowadays.

Kaya nga madami ka pa din maririnig na nagtatanong kung anong model yung Samsung na hawak eh. Siyempre confirmation ng price. Ganun naman mga pasosy.

pinasok ng samsung ang luxury space with their s22 ultra, z flip, z fold

kahit kasing mahal o mas mahal ang mga latest flagships ng samsung iba parin ang dating ng iphone

iphone still dominates the luxury space in my view

(photo from twitter)


pwede rin sa watch thread ung photo hehe

[Ry_Tower]

pinasok ng samsung ang luxury space with their s22 ultra, z flip, z fold

kahit kasing mahal o mas mahal ang mga latest flagships ng samsung iba parin ang dating ng iphone

iphone still dominates the luxury space in my view

(photo from twitter)


pwede rin sa watch thread ung photo hehe

Like I said, Rolex - Omega sila. But Samsung's TOTL somehow commands "status" symbol unlike other android brands.

No dispute whose #1.

[ice15]

[marky2115]

Samsung foldable devices, nagmumukhang status symbol dahil mahal due to new tech. Like all new techs, mahal sa simula. Bababa din ang cost eventually unless hindi maging successful.

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[dr. d]

Samsung foldable devices, nagmumukhang status symbol dahil mahal due to new tech. Like all new techs, mahal sa simula. Bababa din ang cost eventually unless hindi maging successful.

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i remember the automatic transmissions and the power steerings, when they first appeared in the local scene...
even left and right side mirrors!
have you tried backing out of a long driveway, at night, in a car with out back-up lights?

yes, i am that old.

[ice15]

^di na ako makikipag talo sa "definition ng status symbol"

when my daughter turned 10, ibinili ko sya ng brand new iPhone and naka-iPhone sya ever since (I maintain a 2 year cycle for all phones).
iPhone din company issue sa amin... bumili ako ng Note 20 Ultra ko with my own $$$ kasi I prefer Android (balik iPhone ako once the 14 Pro gets released bec of CarPlay)

so other than my mom na call & text lang ginagawa nya sa Galaxy A nya... lahat ng kilala ko naka "status symbol iPhone"

lastly... kung naka-iPhone ka pero naka Tag ka lang, mas angat ka pa din sa naka Samsung na naka-Rolex?

[Deestone]

^di na ako makikipag talo sa "definition ng status symbol"

when my daughter turned 10, ibinili ko sya ng brand new iPhone and naka-iPhone sya ever since (I maintain a 2 year cycle for all phones).
iPhone din company issue sa amin... bumili ako ng Note 20 Ultra ko with my own $$$ kasi I prefer Android (balik iPhone ako once the 14 Pro gets released bec of CarPlay)

so other than my mom na call & text lang ginagawa nya sa Galaxy A nya... lahat ng kilala ko naka "status symbol iPhone"

lastly... kung naka-iPhone ka pero naka Tag ka lang, mas angat ka pa din sa naka Samsung na naka-Rolex?

I'm using xiaomi and wearing a panerai how do you define me?

[dr. d]

I'm using xiaomi and wearing a panerai how do you define me?

,,, panerai..,
oh! that watch for folks with poor vision!
heh heh heh.
jok po.

[ice15]

I'm using xiaomi and wearing a panerai how do you define me?

I was the one saying na hindi status symbol ang kahit anong phone (except the Vertu)

walang phone ang status symbol because its a tool

may mga kilala akong walang ref, stove at TV sa house... pero may phone kasi its a necessity

[uls]

"why do you need a hundred thousand peso phone?"

"coz that's the only phone suitable for my work... i need it for my productivity"

"you can't be as productive with a fifty thousand peso phone?"

"ah...nope"

ookaayy

[Deestone]

,,, panerai..,
oh! that watch for folks with poor vision!
heh heh heh.
jok po.

you will get bullied if you post that in the panerai page hehe

[ice15]

"why do you need a hundred thousand peso phone?"

"coz that's the only phone suitable for my work... i need it for my productivity"

"you can't be as productive with a fifty thousand peso phone?"

"ah...nope"

ookaayy

using my wife as a sample... she needs to sync 6 calendars on her device...

I once asked her to use the S10 (the only non-iPhone device she used) and no calendar app can handle her requirement... we even left the device sa Samsung para sila umayos sa settings... wala pa din. a month later, balik iPhone sya.

Sa office naman namin... we don't have an internal IT. external lang, and the contract states na "mobile device support for iOS only" - kaya tuwing my prob yung Note ko... I'm on my own.

as for my daughter naman... it started with "parental settings" na di ko magawa sa Android noon.

then there's the small things iPhone can do na di kaya ng Android.

[dr. d]

you will get bullied if you post that in the panerai page hehe

'kaw, ha!
magtatago ako sa likuran nang sea urchin ko...

[uls]

what a coincidence... i was reading this...

FOSS Patents: European and German patent stats confirm China has taken lead over U.S. in digital communications patent filings: Huawei, Ericsson lead the pack; OPPO ahead of Nokia; Apple is nowhere

European and German patent stats confirm China has taken lead over U.S. in digital communications patent filings: Huawei, Ericsson lead the pack; OPPO ahead of Nokia; Apple is nowhere

Key takeaways and observations

Despite Trump's trade war that the Biden Administration continues, Huawei is unstoppable--and the undisputed number one in the world. They have a corporate presentation coming up next week, and I plan to follow it over the livestream--it's a must-attend given that company's strength in wireless patents.

The other Chinese companies among the top 10 filers in the field are OPPO (#5), which is in the top 5 and has surpassed Nokia (688 v. 658), with which it is embroiled in two-way litigation; ZTE (#7), which is increasingly interested in outbound licensing and has recently started enforcement actions and Vivo (#10), which is being sued by Nokia but also countersuing in Dusseldorf.

Ericsson is #2, clearly ahead of Qualcomm in the third place and more than twice as strong as Nokia (#6). Sweden's strength in digital innovation is almost entirely attributable to Ericsson alone. One cannot respect innovation without applauding Ericsson's engineers.

But what about Apple, against which Ericsson is enforcing SEPs? Nowhere on the list. Over the years they've acquired SEPs (such as from Nortel and Intel), but that's about it. It's been a few years since they acquired Intel's mobile chipset business, so I'd have expected them to play a more significant role already. But... they are nowhere to be seen.

Apple is a luxury goods company making the closest thing you can find in the digital economy to a Veblen good. More than anything else, Apple brutally exploits its market power over everyone, with my primary concern being how it treats app developers. It squeezes suppliers and seeks to deprive employees of their rights to form unions (just yesterday, Microsoft announced a far more cooperative stance on unions).

Policy makers in the U.S. and elsewhere must understand where Apple is coming from when it takes positions on patent policy and on mobile app stores. It seeks to substitute market power for foundational research. That formula, however, doesn't yield a consumer surplus. Nor are deceptive lobbying practices by Apple-funded organizations the answer.

Apple won't change unless it has to. It's up to policy makers, competition regulators, and the courts of law to require Apple to compete on the merits, to fairly reward innovators, to open up iOS app distribution, and to invest not only in its expansion into ever more markets (it's like an insatiable octopus in that regard) but also in the digital communications technologies without which its gadgets wouldn't work in the first place.

The United States has no one but itself--and above all, Apple's ability to perpetuate its market power and spawn monopoly after monopoly--to blame for having lost the lead in this field to China, and for trailing (relative to population size) a country like Sweden by a huge factor.

if you don't know what a veblen good is google it

para di na kayo mahirapan: Veblen Good Definition

What Is a Veblen Good?

A Veblen good is a good for which demand increases as the price increases, because of its exclusive nature and appeal as a status symbol. A Veblen good has an upward-sloping demand curve, which runs counter to the typical downward-sloping curve. However, a Veblen good is generally a high-quality, coveted product, in contrast to a Giffen good, which is an inferior product that does not have easily available substitutes.