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    Been watching this for a couple of months now..
    http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/

    May latest pa for Vista, very funny ads.

    And came.. Novell - for Linux ads..
    http://www.novell.com/linux/meetlinux/

    HAHA

    Louie
    Debian admin and user

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    ako i prefer mac good in graphics...

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    depende depende yan sa purpose eh. each operating system has each pros and cons.

    imho....

    Microsoft
    Pros
    - very popular because of its EOU.
    - supports old, existing and new devices.

    Cons
    - security
    - buggy
    - high resource requirement

    Linux
    Pros
    - free
    - strength is its security


    Cons
    - EOU
    - support for new devices lagging compared to MS

    MacOS
    Pros
    - nothing can beat this OS in terms of graphics

    Cons
    - support for devices, mostly for Apple products
    - support for new applications/limited apps available


    imho lang ulit ha? wala akong gustong sagasaan. based on my personal experiences only.

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    Mac and Linux equal sa top position for me.
    Gamit ko sila now: Ubuntu for my desktop, and Mac sa laptop.

    Windows is a very far 2nd. Got tired of it.
    Will only go back if my job requires windows development.

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    imho, MS manages to sell millions of copies of windows because of its user interface; say what you want about windows randomly crashing, the crappy security, etc. -- but it's UI is the one most people are most comfortable and familiar with.

    the X/windows UI on most linux distros, while vastly improved from the dark, early ages of linux, still doesn't quite match windows'.


    what's more, a lot of people got hooked on MS office early on. 1-2 combo ng MS yan

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    Macs
    Pros:
    - tops in hardware build quality
    - very polished and well-integrated apps
    - Sweet P n P
    - low profile means less malware
    Cons:
    - they can get pricey although they're much more competitive now
    - bunch of snotty-nosed zealots often turned me off to Macs
    - software/hardware very Apple-bound, gives the feeling Apple's got me by the balls

    Windows
    Pros:
    - ubiquitious, the standard....nuff said
    - most of my pc gaming fix is on Windows
    - adequate but sometimes not the most well-thought out OS
    Cons:
    - earlier versions buggy
    - sometimes gives me the feeling MS has me by the balls
    - P n P ok with occasional hit n miss
    - a hacker and virus writer's paradise

    Linux
    Pros:
    - free and that's about it
    - Live CD's nice
    - free server capability
    - low profile means less malware
    Cons
    - ready for the desktop, my butt.
    - lack of quality commercial apps, lack of quality apps period. What's considered polished to Linux users is a far cry from commercial Windows software and even farther from Mac apps
    - Linux zealots almost as snotty as Mac zealots.
    - drivers and updates problematic compared to Windows and Mac; dependency BS a big turnoff
    - P n P hit n miss even more than Windows.....grrrr!
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 4th, 2007 at 01:47 PM.

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    imho, MS manages to sell millions of copies of windows because of its user interface; say what you want about windows randomly crashing, the crappy security, etc. -- but it's UI is the one most people are most comfortable and familiar with.
    malaki din factor ng marketing strategy ng microsoft kung bakit number 1 sila. most people are only comfortable with windows because most desktops/notebooks comes with windows by default. dun na sila nasanay agad and ayaw na mag-try ng iba - ganun naman nature ng tao eh.

    sabi nga ni Dilbert, "change is good, you go first."

    - most of my pc gaming fix is on Windows
    thats also one of the reasons why they're still number 1.

    - bunch of snotty-nosed zealots often turned me off to Macs
    - Linux zealots almost as snotty as Mac zealots.
    madami din snotty zealots and microsoft, mas vocal nga lang ang mac and *nix people. besides, if you're using the OS, they won't be too snotty to you. i dont get it why zealots turn you off from using a product. there will always be zealots in the IT industry anyway.

    --
    i admit, though, that most linux distros still have shortcomings to be a decent desktop solution for the regular user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    malaki din factor ng marketing strategy ng microsoft kung bakit number 1 sila. most people are only comfortable with windows because most desktops/notebooks comes with windows by default. dun na sila nasanay agad and ayaw na mag-try ng iba - ganun naman nature ng tao eh.

    sabi nga ni Dilbert, "change is good, you go first."
    MS has been doing that even when pc's have only MS-DOS while Macs and Amigas already have windowing enviroments. The benefits of a windowing enviroment over a command prompt-based one was already clear even then. Yet, these pc's with a "cumbersome" interface outsold Macs and Amigas combined. There had to be something else besides MS' tactics that made pc's sell well.

    madami din snotty zealots and microsoft, mas vocal nga lang ang mac and *nix people. besides, if you're using the OS, they won't be too snotty to you. i dont get it why zealots turn you off from using a product. there will always be zealots in the IT industry anyway.
    That may be the case in forums and BBSes back then. But out in the real world, I've never seen Windows users evangelize their platform to non-pc users. Mac zealots on the other hand almost always try to get a word in ad nauseum. Amiga zealots were far more obnoxious than Mac zealots. Unfortunately, the Amiga was my platform of choice back then. It pained me to have to share my platform with those clowns. I tried to stick to my principle of not letting zealots get in the way of my platform preference. But, those Amiga zealots were something else. They really drove me to almost abandon the platform.

    i admit, though, that most linux distros still have shortcomings to be a decent desktop solution for the regular user.
    I found Mandriva and Ubuntu usable enough. I've been a regular Linux user since Mandrake 6.0 and Suse 7.1. But, I doubt casual users will have as smooth a time as I did. What really pains me above all else about Linux is the lack of good commercial apps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    Macs
    Cons:
    - bunch of snotty-nosed zealots often turned me off to Macs
    LOL!
    Same here.

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    as far as im concerned, whichever has the most support for new and old games is the winner...PC all the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by ess View Post
    LOL!
    Same here.
    Once I stayed away from Mac forums, buying a Mac got easier. I got sick of zealots in those forums worshiping in the Altar Of Mac. Don't get me wrong, I like Macs. But, I often ended up saying, "Get a life. It's just a computer" to those people.

    Add: I obviously let loose a lot of pent-up rage against these zealots. Ahhh. I feel much better now .
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 4th, 2007 at 02:28 PM.

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    i-license lang ng Apple ang Mac OS sa ibang vendors, sigurado yang ang magiging number 1 over time... PERO It's the brand exclusivity and value Apple is focusing on and not on the mass market...

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    mac

    tripple boot ftw!

    runs windows
    runs mac os
    runs linux

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    Also, make sure it's Mac vs PC vs Linux on the thread title. Even the mere spelling of Mac pisses off the zealots....sheeesh. *me shakes head (at them)*

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    di ba dapat Mac vs Windows vs Linux because *NIXs also runs on PCs.
    yan isa sa hindi ko gusto sa Mac users always generalizing PCs as a Windows machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    di ba dapat Mac vs Windows vs Linux because *NIXs also runs on PCs.
    yan isa sa hindi ko gusto sa Mac users always generalizing PCs as a Windows machine.
    Yup. I thought about mentioning that too. But, meh. Too trivial. Even that last post of mine was pushing it....waste of keystrokes.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 5th, 2007 at 03:47 PM.

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    im a mac user, appreciate it very much=)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutedoc View Post
    im a mac user, appreciate it very much=)
    Please don't turn into a zealot, it would really hurt me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    Yup. I thought about mentioning that too. But, meh. Too trivial. Even that last post of mine was pushing it....waste of keystrokes.
    i dont think its too trivial, PC is hardware and we're talking about operating systems. maybe im just being too anal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roninblade View Post
    i dont think its too trivial, PC is hardware and we're talking about operating systems. maybe im just being too anal.
    Oh no. You're fine. It's just that having Mac, pc, and Linux in the same sentence have a tendency to degenerate into mud-slinging. Thank goodness it hasn't happened here. You can say I'm more than a little weary of it.

    Add: I probably knocked Linux a bit harder because I am somewhat frustrated at the very tiny numbers of decent commercial software. Of course, the very nature of Linux (free) makes the likelihood of more commercial apps very unlikely. Open Office is one of the exceptions. I like it enough that I can give up MS Office for home use. But, I want to see equivalents in: video-editing, cd/dvd burning as full-featured as those from Roxio and Ahead, and maybe a couple more software categories. If I can get those for Linux, I'd be using Linux a lot, lot more. That's not to say I don't get excited about Linux. Beryl's got me giddy with anticipation.

    Mac.... Not really much to knock except the zealots and maybe high prices for the top of the line models. Great hardware, great software, great integration. We'll be replacing our daughter's iBook and G4 Mini soon. It's just a matter of which one. It's down to the Core 2 Duo MacBook or 17" iMac.

    Windows.... it's both great and bad. I game on the pc. That makes Windows necessary. I do more (home) video-editing on the pc than the Mac, plus I find survivability in Windows is easier than what non-Windows zealots would lead me to believe.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 5th, 2007 at 06:00 PM.

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