Home Data Cabling

[swordsman]

I'm planning to have Data Cabling in our house. I don't know how this is implemented, but i guess each room should have an outlet/provision for data cable connection, so i can just plug in my data cable and surf the internet(thru my DSL connection) anywhere in the house. The data cabling will run thru the house along with the telephone and cable tv, in a common piping, i suppose.

So how is this implemented? Is there a switch somewhere that that will receive the single signal from the telephone, cable, and data(dsl signal) and distribute it thoughout the house? Is the switch just a splitter of signal or something more sophisticated?

Any tips or best practice for making this work with minimal problems? What type of cable/jack to use, to make it future proof a bit.

[badkuk]

hmmm..as far as data cabling goes, yes, you will need a switch. for phone line, that depends on whether you just want to provide an extension from a single line, or have some sort of intercom/PBX setup. For tv/video a simple splitter should do.

data cabling -- RJ 45 jacks, CAT5/5e cabling, crimping tool(available at any pc shop)
phone caling -- RJ11 jacks, couplers, telephone wire, any hardware store

video cabling -- RG57(or was it 58?) coax cabling, jacks, splitters, crimping
tool, optional booster; any hardware store


imho, do look into wifi; even if you do provide an RJ45 outlet for each room, chances are you'll still need some patch cords to reach the table/bed/bathroom.

[1D4LV]

i also would recommend you to explore wifi which is cheaper to implement and maintain.

kasi pag cabled network ka, sooner or later, you will replace the UTP5 wires dahil minsan nadedegrade yan ng moisture. not to mention, minsan, nginangatngat pa yan ng daga.

sa voice, what i did sa house namin is i've installed intercom phones connected wirelessly. got the units sa japan (panasonic yung brand). pwede kang mag transfer ng calls from the base station to any wireless units/receivers around the house.

[boybi]

i also would recommend you to explore wifi which is cheaper to implement and maintain.

kasi pag cabled network ka, sooner or later, you will replace the UTP5 wires dahil minsan nadedegrade yan ng moisture. not to mention, minsan, nginangatngat pa yan ng daga.

sa voice, what i did sa house namin is i've installed intercom phones connected wirelessly. got the units sa japan (panasonic yung brand). pwede kang mag transfer ng calls from the base station to any wireless units/receivers around the house.

Anong model yan? Ilan units ang kasama? Pwede pang magdagdag ng units/handsets?

[swordsman]

actually, since may renovation sa house, i'll have the contractor implement this. i just don't know how good he is at implementing something like this, or if he knows how at all.

wi-fi is also nice, and most likely will use it soon, in conjunction with the wired connection. i just want to have the data cabling implemented properly, since mag-re-renovate naman.

are there individual contractors specializing in implementing structured wiring? kung hindi man kayanin ng contractor ko?

[Syuryuken]

mag wireless lan ka na lang kesa cable.

[Jun aka Pekto]

If you value security, stick with RJ-45 and RJ-11 cabling for network connectivity. You can always add WiFi later.

[1D4LV]

Anong model yan? Ilan units ang kasama? Pwede pang magdagdag ng units/handsets?

i really don't know the model, but when i got it, it includes the base model and one roving handset. tapos bumili pa ako ng two additional roving handsets.

yes, pwedeng magdagdag ng units hanggang 6 ata.

[boybi]

i really don't know the model, but when i got it, it includes the base model and one roving handset. tapos bumili pa ako ng two additional roving handsets.

yes, pwedeng magdagdag ng units hanggang 6 ata.

A so cordless phone talaga sya. Parang yung mga nasa newspaper ads ng Panasonic.

[swordsman]

mag wireless lan ka na lang kesa cable.

i will soon. gusto ko sana conbination. sayang yong opportunity to install the cabling habang bubutasin yong walls ko e. hehe



here's an interesting link i found on the internet. problem lang is finding someone who can implement it properly(kung hindi familiar ang contractor ko) and where to buy the control box. i guess the upscale hotels have similar thing installed..

http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library...ata-A1698.html

[ghosthunter]

actually, since may renovation sa house, i'll have the contractor implement this. i just don't know how good he is at implementing something like this, or if he knows how at all.

wi-fi is also nice, and most likely will use it soon, in conjunction with the wired connection. i just want to have the data cabling implemented properly, since mag-re-renovate naman.

are there individual contractors specializing in implementing structured wiring? kung hindi man kayanin ng contractor ko?

A typical home electrician should be able to install the CAT5 cabling in your home. That's what we had done at our office and my home some years ago. You can buy the RJ45 wall sockets at any hardware store these days.

Any modern day electricial worth his salt should be able to properly terminate the CAT5 cables at each of the RJ45 sockets. If not, ask a computer technician to do the actual cable terminations for you.

The advantage of a wired connection is the speed and security. A WiFi setup is inherenty insecure because it is still possible for people to peek into the data streaming in and out of your wireless link, even if you have implemented some wifi security protocols.

[simplicity]

currently i have a wireless router installed sa house. no cables pare. mas madali pa
mag install. mas matrabaho kapag "wired" ang gagawin mong setup. dami pang
nakalatag na cables niyan. madami na naman murang wireless routers ngayon eh.

[badkuk]

hindi naman sa nilalahat, pero most contractors don't know how to handle data cables properly. dapat kasi hindi yan pinapabend/twist ng sobra para walang signal degradation

[mr_incredible]

An alternative, if you don't want wifi, is to use the power lines in your house for your network using power line ethernet adapters.

[ghosthunter]

An alternative, if you don't want wifi, is to use the power lines in your house for your network using power line ethernet adapters.

True but it can get expensive. So far I only have seen one place selling powerline LAN "terminals" (basically LAN to powerline adapters). Price was around P2400 per terminal. Speed goes down from 100mbps to about 80Mbps too.

It actually might be cheaper to purchase the powerline LAN "terminals" from abroad.

[swordsman]

haven't had a chance to talk to my contractor yet, but one guy in MC Home Depot, where i'm window shopping, mentioned for the data/internet cabling, the control box usually used is just a hub. for the cable tv, it's usually just an ordinatry cable tv signal splitter. same with the telephone. he mentioned that the important thing is the cable used, and suggested to only use Belden brand.

oh well, i thought it was like an ibm home director network control center..

[ghosthunter]

haven't had a chance to talk to my contractor yet, but one guy in MC Home Depot, where i'm window shopping, mentioned for the data/internet cabling, the control box usually used is just a hub. for the cable tv, it's usually just an ordinatry cable tv signal splitter. same with the telephone. he mentioned that the important thing is the cable used, and suggested to only use Belden brand.

oh well, i thought it was like an ibm home director network control center..

Well, for the actual splitting of LAN cables to the rooms, you will just need a network hub or switch (switch is better). But you will still need a location for all those cables, network switch, router, etc to be installed and maybe hidden from view (but with proper ventilation).

[mr_incredible]

True but it can get expensive. So far I only have seen one place selling powerline LAN "terminals" (basically LAN to powerline adapters). Price was around P2400 per terminal. Speed goes down from 100mbps to about 80Mbps too.

It actually might be cheaper to purchase the powerline LAN "terminals" from abroad.

Yes it is indeed an expensive alternative pero a viable one if you do not like to worry about how to do data cabling. 80mbps from 100mbps is not too bad especially since you may not even reach a 10th of that data transfer speed from existing Philippine internet providers.

However, I'd still recommend wifi over this. Cheaper hardware, less mess with the wires, respectable data transfer speeds.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Like the OP says he will be using wired in conjuction with wireless. I tend to agree with that, there are applications na hindi kaya ng wireless.

One of the best uses for a data network is to have pictures, movies and video on your computer, and UPnP players at your living room, TV room and even bedrooms to play back the media on your stereo or big-screen TV. Para wala nang disc-juggling, saka lahat ng media available sa lahat ng kwarto mo.

If you have a computer with windows Vista, for instance you can play back movies and pictures stored from there on your Xbox360, (or similarly, iTunes to Apple Video) but if you have more than one room with a 360, or medyo malayo yung 360 sa computer mo video will get choppy over WiFi, lalo na kung high resolution yung video.

I tried the same thing using a modified 1st gen Xbox with XBMC, to stream video to a TV. Over a wireless adapter hindi na kaya direct DVD images (DVD video needs about 10.55Mb/sec, typical wireless-G data rate over 30 feet is just 2.5Mb/sec). HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movies can have bandwidth rates up to 25Mb/sec.

[swordsman]

Found this link, might be useful to some... http://www.swhowto.com/Structured.htm