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    #301
    ^^ yup that is a solution. I just remembered the hostage crisis in russia by the chechens.... lahat ng tama ng terorista sa ulo.

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    #302
    Lesson learned from our Govt wala ng negosasyon, yung mga commanders ng mga terrorist, shoot to kill na wag na ikulong para hindi na mkapagrecruit.

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    #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    The same way that the US does not negotiate with terrorists, as long as the gov't is always held back by doing this human shield hostage gimmick, they will always have the guts to repeat doing this things. I know it sound bad coming from someone not affected directly, but in order for this vicious cycle to end, a hard line must be drawn.

    Yung tipo na may special force tayo na sasalakay and may acceptable losses sa civilians nga but at least uubusin din mga hostage takers na yan.
    Yes sir,we must bite the bullet,there will always be a collateral damage when dealing with this terrorist,just make sure the govn't forces finished them off pati na kanilang anino

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    #304
    Ang problema kasi yung human rights blah blah sh*t. Wag patagalin ang hostage, 48hours kung hindi sumuko... Kill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Ang problema kasi yung human rights blah blah sh*t. Wag patagalin ang hostage, 48hours kung hindi sumuko... Kill!
    Ganun nga, 48-72 hours lang dapat sumuko of face total annihilation or capture. Wala nang negotiations after the deadline. Within the timeframe lang puwede maki-usap sa mga hostage takers, kapag hindi nila nakumbinsi, sorry na lang imho.

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    #306
    Tapos kung nagpapaputok during the first 48 hours, patayin na din. Don't risk the life of soldiers and policemen for the sake of human rights. Paano naman kung matamaan sila. So stupid to negotiate with these terrorists.

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    #307
    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Tapos kung nagpapaputok during the first 48 hours, patayin na din. Don't risk the life of soldiers and policemen for the sake of human rights. Paano naman kung matamaan sila. So stupid to negotiate with these terrorists.
    Let eta Rosales go in between those warring groups and observe human rights violators,let her see for herself if those MNLF bullets respect human right

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    #308
    Quote Originally Posted by rac98 View Post
    Is the bangsamoro islamic freedom fighters connected or the same as the mnlf? Apparently it is the former that used civilians as human shield in n.cotabato.
    BIFF is an offshoot from MILF while MILF is an offshoot from MNLF

    MNLF is the patriarch, MILF is the progeny of MNLF, BIFF is the progeny of MILF; this is the sequence by which these secessionist groups have cropped up

    as it stand there is a game of one-upmanship between these groups when it comes to coming to terms with the phil govt. MNLF the father made its peace with the ramos govt resulted in dissatisfaction from some members which resulted in the birth of MILF. recently with MILF coming to terms with aquino govt the disgruntled members bolted MILF & created BIFF.

    the situation now is more complicated with 3 groups vying for the complete attention of the govt. missuari despite having signed a deal with the govt still has the clout to sow trouble for the govt as we can see with whats happening now in zamboanga

    the current admin has its work cut out in attaining PEACE in mindanao with 3 secessionists groups to deal with
    Last edited by kisshmet; September 23rd, 2013 at 10:57 PM.

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    #309
    mga rebeldeng di nauubusan ng bala at pagkain, nangangamoy pdaf

    P40M used to finance Zambo siege?

    MANILA - Military putschists turned party-list lawmakers in the Magdalo group today claimed that some P40 million was supposedly spent to finance the armed conflict launched by some Moro National Liberation Front fighters in Zamboanga.

    Pressed for more details and names, Magdalo representatives Gary Alejano and Francisco Acedillo turned tight-lipped and said they are asking the authorities to look into the matter.

    "(This is raw information given to me by some MNLF not involved in Zamboanga. Sabi nila they don't know issue sa Zamboanga. May tao nagbigay ng P40 million to some commanders in Zamboanga para gawin itong kaguluhan na ito," Alejano said.

    He said the allegations are a challenge to the present administration to investigate the issue.

    He also said that during the previous administration, some "diversions" were created to shift the focus away from issues of corruption.

    "Sa dating admin, pag may malaking issues may diversion. Pwede nating sabihin na financier might come from people involved in the [Priority Development Assistance Fund] scam. Di malayo this is a destabilization move against the government," he said.
    P40M used to finance Zambo siege? | ABS-CBN News

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    #310
    Magdalo nakikisakay na lang mga iyan. Binaon na sa limot ang mga batibot na yan. Puputak pa sila, nakuha na nila gusto nila, meron na sa senatong nadagdagan pa ng tongressman. Dapat palitan na nila kakupalan nila to MAGBATE.

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    #311
    sino kaya nag susuply ng M-16's sa mga milf/mnlf

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    ^ afp

    xxxx

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    #313
    Wait a minute: nag press release sila, pero hindi nila sigurado kaya pinapaimbestiga yung destabilization plot? Maybe they know something, or they don't, so they didn't release details...so either way wouldn't be best to just keep this under wraps and investigate further?

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    OT:

    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Ang problema kasi yung human rights blah blah sh*t. Wag patagalin ang hostage, 48hours kung hindi sumuko... Kill!
    Human rights ba sir Archie, calling the attenion of Eta-t Rosales!

    "Dinukot at pinugutan ng Bangsamoro Islamic FReedom Fighters (BIFF) ang isang magsasaka sa Midsayap, North Cotabato habang isa pang magsasaka ang namatay matapos mabaril."

    Dinukot at pinugutan ng Bangsamoro Islamic FReedom Fighters (BIFF) ang isang magsasaka sa Midsayap, North Cotabato habang isa pang magsasaka ang namatay matapos mabaril.

    Madaling-araw ngayong Martes, Setyembre 24, nang matagpuan ang bangkay ni Ricarte Dionio na ginamit pang human shield ng mga dumukot na miyembro ng BIFF habang nakikipagbakbakan sa militar.

    Nanawagan ngayon ng hustisya ang ina ni Dionio.

    "Hustisya ang hinihingi ko. Wala naman kasalanan ang anak ko. Sana pinakawalan na lang nila ang anak ko. Wala silang awa," sabi ni Virginia Donio.

    Isa pang bihag ang napatay matapos tamaan ng bala sa kasagsagan ng bakbakan.

    Pinalaya naman ng BIFF ang siyam na guro ng Malingao Elementary School na agad dinala sa Department of Education office sa Coatabato para sa debriefing.

    Pero ayon sa grupo, hindi sila dinukot ay inilayo lang sila sa bakbakan.

    Sa tala ng militar, tatlong sundalo ang patay at dalawa ang sugatan habang apat na rebeldeng BIFF din ang nasawi sa bakbakan. Report from Jasper Acosta, ABS-CBN News Central Mindanao
    DZMM Radyo Patrol 630 - Silveradyo

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    #315
    Quote Originally Posted by chrismarte View Post
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    Human rights ba sir Archie, calling the attenion of Eta-t Rosales!



    DZMM Radyo Patrol 630 - Silveradyo
    Yan ang problema eh. Peace peace pang nalalaman, puro walang pakialam naman sa buhay ng tao yung mga involved. Human shield, hostage, peace talks... All BS!

    The rebels don't respect people, why the hell should we respect their rights. Peace talks of mnlf MILF bilf, para saan pa? Kill all of them to make a statement. May contact si binay, triangulate the position and bomb those terrorist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    BIFF is an offshoot from MILF while MILF is an offshoot from MNLF

    MNLF is the patriarch, MILF is the progeny of MNLF, BIFF is the progeny of MILF; this is the sequence by which these secessionist groups have cropped up

    as it stand there is a game of one-upmanship between these groups when it comes to coming to terms with the phil govt. MNLF the father made its peace with the ramos govt resulted in dissatisfaction from some members which resulted in the birth of MILF. recently with MILF coming to terms with aquino govt the disgruntled members bolted MILF & created BIFF.

    the situation now is more complicated with 3 groups vying for the complete attention of the govt. missuari despite having signed a deal with the govt still has the clout to sow trouble for the govt as we can see with whats happening now in zamboanga

    the current admin has its work cut out in attaining PEACE in mindanao with 3 secessionists groups to deal with
    Yan ang dahilan kaya lumalaki mga ulo ng mga rebelde na yan. Untouchable sila, kahit anong gawin kidnap, hostage, human shield... Kailangan peace talks pa rin. Paano kung kamaganak mo yung na hostage at human shield at napatay, ganyan pa rin kaya pananaw mo?

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    #317
    nahuli na si commander alya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoom View Post
    What's with the smiley? Ano kaya Kung nanay or kapatid mo yung dalawang magandang bihag na sinasabi mo? Please don't find humor in the tragedy of other people.
    ano ngayon kung mag smile ako..
    napaka negatibo mo naman..
    para kang MNLF konting jok lang sineryoso agad
    damay agad nanay at kapatid.. tsk

    negative thinkerrrrrrr.... yckkkkk!!!

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    #320
    sa susunod na election iboto si archie!!!

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