Is WWIII inevitable?

[shadow]

Bakit hinde the war will end when Putin stop the invasion all together?

Again kung sabihin ni Putin ok na tapos na and mag retreat na sila. So ang gagawin ng America is Hinde tuloy mo lang para mas malaki kita namin.


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[shadow]

It's like blaming a rape victim. Sabihan siya na gawin mo na lang BF yun rapist niya para wala ng gulo. Huwag makinig sa mga tutulong na mag Demanda, hahaba lang ang laban. Gusto lang ng mga yan humaba para kumita sila.


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[uls]

So ganun na lang nga dapat any country na meron mag invade eh mag lay down and die na lang just to keep the peace?

Kunin na lang nila kung ano gusto at anong gusto nila gawin. Ok lang.

Again why at we blaming the victim of the invasion instead na condeming the invader?


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hindi naman mag su-surrender ang Ukraine diba?

ayaw nga ng mga amo ni zelensky

[uls]

Bakit hinde the war will end when Putin stop the invasion all together?

Again kung sabihin ni Putin ok na tapos na and mag retreat na sila. So ang gagawin ng America is Hinde tuloy mo lang para mas malaki kita namin.


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yes hindi titigilan ng US ang Russia

the US wants everyone to bow to them

[tsupermario]

yes that's why i said Ukraine doesn't make the decision kahit hirap na sila at gusto na nila mag surrender

kasi bad signal yan

it sends a signal to china that if they invade taiwan and manage to beat taiwan's defenses + western assistance, they can keep taiwan

so hindi pwede mag surrender ang ukraine

the implication is bigger than ukraine so it's not up to ukraine to decide

the war will end when the Empire managers in the West decide it ends

what it should be is that russia should respect the territorial integrity of ukraine, much like china should respect the territories of the philippines

russia is doing a land grab, no different from what china is actually doing

[shadow]

hindi naman mag su-surrender ang Ukraine diba?

ayaw nga ng mga amo ni zelensky

Bakit nga siya mag susurender sa invasion ng Russia?

Bakit lagi ang blame mo sa Ukraine ang hinde kay Putin or Russia? Sino ba ang pumasok sa Ukraine ang nag Start nitong war?


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[shadow]

yes hindi titigilan ng US ang Russia

the US wants everyone to bow to them

So pag umatras na ang Russia ang sabihin ni Putin ayaw na nila, sasabihin ng US sa buong mundo na itutuloy nila ang giyera sa Russia, Uutusan ulit nila ang tuta nila si zelengsky na sumugod at mag attack sa Russia.


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[dr. d]

russia is doing a land grab

i agree.
russia is just a land-grabber,
albeit a very powerful land-grabber.

when hitler did that, the others didn't do anything, for reasons only they know about.
and look where that led...

so what are the united nations doing about it?

[uls]

Bakit nga siya mag susurender sa invasion ng Russia?

Bakit lagi ang blame mo sa Ukraine ang hinde kay Putin or Russia? Sino ba ang pumasok sa Ukraine ang nag Start nitong war?


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because my view is the US provoked russia to attack ukraine

[boybi]

IMO, Ukraine and NATO, especially the US, could have handled this better.

Sa magkakaibigan ba, if may 2 na nagkakainitan na and gusto na magsuntukan, lalo nyo ba sila bubuyuin para matuloy ang suntukan? O ipaghihiwalay sila and kausapin para huminahon?

[kisshmet]

if you believe Zelensky is only a puppet (which i do) then it is not up to Zelensky to decide (ceasefire)

kahit gusto ni Zelensky kung ayaw ng mga boss niya wala siya magagawa

binigyan na siya ng script -- keep asking for weapons, surrender no territory (coz if he surrenders territory it sends a bad signal)

he's an actor playing president of Ukraine

the real decisionmakers are in DC, London, Brussels

zelensky cant defy his masters in CIA..if he attempt to do so..he will end up like those dead ukrainian soldiers in an open battle field in eastern ukraine

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[kisshmet]

yes hindi titigilan ng US ang Russia

the US wants everyone to bow to them

US wants to get cheap russian oil

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[boybi]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

[kisshmet]

^zelensky is a comedian before elected as president

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[uls]

zelensky cant defy his masters in CIA..if he attempt to do so..he will end up like those dead ukrainian soldiers in an open battle field in eastern ukraine

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we agree on something

[uls]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

yep kaya sabi ni Macron don't humiliate Putin

pero para sa US they not only want to humiliate putin, they want to remove putin

within the West meron magkaiba ang pananaw

[kisshmet]

^putin has the power to destroy europe

even if putin is removed, medvedev could be worse than putin coz russian jingoist know that america lust for their wealth (vast oil and gas reserves)

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[tsupermario]

i agree.
russia is just a land-grabber,
albeit a very powerful land-grabber.

when hitler did that, the others didn't do anything, for reasons only they know about.
and look where that led...

so what are the united nations doing about it?

there’s the suggestion of ceding territories to placate the land graber and buy peace. will it be enough to truly attain peace?

who will answer for the loss of civilian lives, the cost and ruin to civilian infrastructure?

by ceding land, will it not set a precedent and embolden similarly powerful and nuclear armed countries with autocratic leaders to act the same way?

[uls]

the West already made it clear that letting Russia have Ukrainian land sets a bad precedent

that's why they want zelensky to continue fighting

the goal is to drive russia out of all ukrainian territory including crimea

which means it will be a long, costly war

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so what are the united nations doing about it?

nothing

pansin mo there's nothing from the UN

absolutely nothing

parang the UN doesn't exist

[tsupermario]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

US officials had from late last year repeatedly warned, despite Russia's denials, that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine as it massed troops near the two countries' border.

The New York Times noted in late January that the US was more vocal than many European countries in its warning of an invasion. Around that time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also told Biden to tone down his warnings of an invasion because it was creating unwanted panic, CNN reported at the time.

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