Is WWIII inevitable?

[Egan101]

Ireland does not seem to share the same sentiments as other European countries.

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[kisshmet]

statement of the pentagon re NO FLY ZONE requested by the ukrainians

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[Athrunzala]

Ayan na!

On March 25th, 2022: "Arise Holy Russia"

[TopEngine]

statement of the pentagon re NO FLY ZONE requested by the ukrainians

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So West does not want to have a direct conflict with Russia.

May the Philippines' next leaders would learn geopolitics from this event.

[Egan101]

statement of the pentagon re NO FLY ZONE requested by the ukrainians

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NATO has to hit SAM sites within Russia and Belarus to be able to operate in Ukrainian airspace. This means they will be literally bombing Russia and expanding further the conflict.


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[kisshmet]

So West does not want to have a direct conflict with Russia.

May the Philippines' next leaders would learn geopolitics from this event.

the difference between the philippines and ukaraine is that philippines is a treaty ally since the 50s..MDT (mutual defense treaty) entered into by the philippines with the US serves as a DETERENCE against aggression or protection against the first shot. with MDT china will think twice before shooting at our boats in the WPS

zelensky made a big mistake to antagonize its powerful neighbor with nuclear weapons he doesnt possess and NO TREATY to obligate NATO to defend them militarily

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[kisshmet]

NATO has to hit SAM sites within Russia and Belarus to be able to operate in Ukrainian airspace. This means they will be literally bombing Russia and expanding further the conflict.


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S400 and S500 air defence systems are powerful enough to DETER US and NATO to save ukraine

F22 and F35 stealth jet fighters are not good enough to challenge the russian air defence systems



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[Egan101]

NATO is equally complicit of what is happening in Ukraine.

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[Flipo]

Lies and disinformation about Ukraine | Inquirer Opinion

Lies and disinformation about Ukraine
By: Luc Véron - *inquirerdotnet
Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:06 AM March 18, 2022

In reference to the commentary “A quest for peace in Europe” written by Bobby M. Tuazon and published on March 16, 2022, the Delegation of the European Union to the Philippines would like to clarify on the following points:

On Feb. 24, Russia launched an unprovoked and unjustified full-scale military attack against Ukraine, involving indiscriminate attacks on Ukrainian civilians and against civilian infrastructure (including residential buildings and hospitals), the bombing of humanitarian corridors, and besieging civilians in the cities, and the death, as of March 14, of at least 1,761 civilians (including 46 children) across Ukraine, according to the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights. The Russian invasion of Ukraine constitutes a gross violation of international law and the UN Charter, which guarantee the sovereign equality and territorial integrity of states, the inviolability of frontiers, refraining from the threat or use of force, and the freedom of states to choose or change their own security arrangements. Ukraine (not a Nato member) has not threatened or attacked Russia.

No country or alliance is plotting to invade or attack Russia. Nato is a defensive alliance, the purpose of which is to protect its member states. Nato exercises and military deployments are not directed against Russia—or any other country. Russia is the world’s largest country by geography with a population of more than 140 million and has one of the largest armed forces in the world with the highest number of nuclear weapons. It is absurd to portray Russia as a country under acute threat. In terms of geography, less than one-sixteenth of Russia’s land border is with Nato members. The narrative of Nato threatening Russia is not substantiated by facts.

The claim that Russia was promised “verbally” that Nato would not expand beyond the reunified Germany was denied by Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in a 2014 interview. Decisions regarding Nato membership are up to each individual applicant and the current 30 Nato allies. As a sovereign country, Ukraine has every right to choose its policies and alliances. The notion that Russia should have a veto power over Ukraine’s sovereign decisions has no basis in international law.

The demonstrations, which began on Maidan square in Kyiv in November 2013, were not provoked from outside but were a result of the Ukrainian people’s frustration with former president Viktor Yanukovych’s last-minute refusal to sign the EU-Ukraine association agreement because of Russian pressure. Disinformation narratives that try to blame anyone but the Yanukovych government for the killing of unarmed protesters in February 2014 have not been substantiated by any evidence.

Since the 2013-2014 Maidan protests, pro-Kremlin disinformation outlets have falsely claimed that Ukraine was controlled from the outside and by Nazis. There are over 100 examples of similar disinformation claims in the EUvsDisinfo database (Attention Required! | Cloudflare). Such claims have no factual basis. In fact, “liberation from neo-Nazism” is the Russian false excuse for this horrific attack on Ukraine’s people. Since Russia’s aggression against Ukraine in 2014, more than 14,000 Ukrainians have been killed, wounded, internally displaced, or driven into refuge due to shelling, sniping, attacks of all kinds launched by the Russia-backed armed formations in breach of ceasefires and Minsk agreements. The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission has been documenting this on a daily basis.

Ukraine has implemented as much of the Minsk agreements as can reasonably be done while not having control over the territory and addressed every point. It has passed—and extended with renewals— legislation on special status and amnesty (2014), and prepared draft legislation on local elections (2014). Ukraine passed constitutional amendments to provide more autonomy to the territories currently outside its control (2015). It is Russia that has blatantly violated the Minsk agreements.

Russia’s ruthless invasion of Ukraine continues. Civilians are relentlessly attacked, including in schools, apartment buildings, and hospitals. Despite repeated offers by the Ukrainian side, Russia has not shown any willingness to engage seriously in a diplomatic solution. Instead, all we hear are new lies and false accusations. Humanitarian corridors are either still not opened or being bombed by Russian forces shortly after they are announced.

The European Union has adopted restrictive measures against Russia in response to its brutal aggression against Ukraine and its people. EU restrictive measures are not punitive. They are intended to bring about a change in policy or activity by targeting entities and individuals in non-EU countries, responsible for such malignant behavior. EU sanctions are carefully targeted, and designed to be proportionate to the objectives they seek to achieve. These sanctions will further contribute to ramping up economic pressure on the Kremlin and cripple its ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine. The aim of the sanctions is that President Putin stops this inhuman and senseless war.
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Luc Véron is the European Union ambassador to the Philippines.

[uls]

^^^

western propaganda

[Flipo]

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Decoupled | Philstar.com

Decoupled
FIRST PERSON - Alex Magno - The Philippine Star
March 17, 2022 | 12:00am

Putin stares defeat in the face.

His blitzkrieg fizzled. His troops are demoralized. The awesome armored columns he deployed are mired in Ukrainian country roads, incessantly attacked by courageous fighters defending their homeland.

The cracks are showing. In the most watched news program on state-controlled Russian television, an editor appeared with a placard denouncing the lies Putin peddles. In a news conference, captured Russian military officers were cognizant they were used to wage an unholy war. Soon, when they become fully aware of Putin’s crime, the Russian people will reject his leadership.

This is now clear: the Russian invasion of Ukraine has no endgame. And Putin has no exit except one that totally humiliates him before his own people. He cannot politically survive that.

Putin sent in thousands of tanks against a peaceful neighbor. Tanks, invented during the age of trench warfare, are formidable weapons only when they are in motion. When they are stationary, these lumbering machines are sitting ducks for modern defensive weapons.

Putin went for a quick and decisive military victory. This is the reason his tanks came in with scarce fuel and very little food for his troops. Three weeks after the invasion begun, those tanks are immobilized. The troops are demoralized.

Putin thought an overpowering military operation would divide the Ukrainians, a third of whom are native Russian speakers. The invasion fired up Ukrainian patriotism.

Putin thought NATO would waffle in the face of decisive Russian action like the alliance did when he annexed Crimea in 2014. Instead, he solidified the western alliance. Earlier this week, three prime ministers from NATO member-countries traveled to Kyiv to meet with the embattled Ukrainian leader in a city under bombardment. It is as if they had presented themselves to be human shields in a city under brutal Russian bombardment.

Putin thought he could break the Ukrainian people’s will by ruthlessly bombing schools, hospitals and residential buildings. The past few days, it seems the invading army’s fallback strategy was to inflict on Ukraine’s cities the cruel destruction Russian missiles inflicted on Aleppo in Syria a few years ago. Russian artillery reduced the historic city into unrecognizable rubble to defeat anti-Assad resistance.

Although forced to live in basements without electricity, water and heating, the populations of the besieged Ukrainian cities continued resisting. The brutal bombing produced casualties, no doubt. But it also produced heroes out of ordinary citizens.

China, Putin’s most reliable ally, continues to waffle. But the great majority of the world has arrived at an unshakable consensus. At the UN General Assembly, 141 nations endorsed a resolution condemning Russian aggression. The degree of international unanimity is unprecedented.

This global unanimity translates into broad support for the economic sanctions imposed on Russia. Maintained over a prolonged period, these sanctions will have the effect of decoupling Russia from the rest of the global economy. This will have profound consequences.

Decoupled, Russia will become a much larger North Korea. It will be a nation subsisting in its own universe, governed by a repressive government that censors information and manipulates its citizens.

This will be most tragic for the Russian people. With its vast natural resources, Russia could thrive only if it becomes an increasingly globalized economy. Powered by its commodity exports – oil, gas and agriculture – Russians can be as wealthy as the Norwegians. But they can be so only on the basis of coexistence with the rest of the world.

Coexistence requires free movement of people and information – not only the capital of her oligarchs – across borders. Eventually, this will require democratization of Russian society.

A leader like Putin has no place in this sort of evolution. He is an autocrat of the old school, believing he can control his people through intimidation and violence. The costs of repression will, however, be less viable over time.

Putin is misplaced in this century. His dream of reviving the Russian empire is a delusion. His understanding of his country’s security needs is of Cold War vintage. He has no vision of a robust future for his people.

The only asset Putin fully controls is Russia’s nuclear weapons arsenal. He does not yet realize that no country can actually fight and win nuclear wars. This arsenal gives him an illusory sense of power, a destructive potential he can use to bludgeon other nations to impose his will.

With all of Russia’s chips down in the face of sanctions, Putin will have only his nuclear arsenal as leverage. The present conflict in Ukraine can yet descend into a nuclear confrontation no one can ever win.

Reliant exclusively on the illusory power of nuclear weapons, Putin will behave pretty much like that petty North Korean leader who obsesses over his country’s intercontinental ballistics missiles while his people starve and his nation remains trapped in a time warp. Russia, with Putin still there, will eventually become a rogue state constantly threatening the peace and civility of all humanity.

Ultimately, the survival of Volodymir Zelensky is less important than the political persistence of Vladimir Putin. Zelensky could perish in the face of a brutal assault by Putin’s invading army. He will be a hero for humanity.

But if Putin politically survives his present debacle, he will be a continuing calamity for the whole world. He will weaponize Russia’s oil and gas reserves. He will disturb the global order in pursuit of his imperialist designs.

Putin is a menace for Ukraine. More tragically, however, he is a curse on the Russian people.

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tldr

sabi ko western propaganda

coz i believe what happened in ukraine in 2014 is a US-backed coup

may track record ang US -- nagtatanggal ng lider ng ibang bansa pag hindi masunurin

(regime change policy)

[Egan101]

Enough said…

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[tsupermario]

zelensky made a big mistake to antagonize its powerful neighbor with nuclear weapons he doesnt possess and NO TREATY to obligate NATO to defend them militarily

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there was the Budapest Memorandum where the US, UK and Russia agreed not to use force against the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine

Once the second most powerful republic in the Soviet Union (USSR), Ukraine voted for independence on 1 December, 1991. With independence came the tag of being the third-largest nuclear power in the world, but only briefly.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, thousands of nuclear arms, about one third of the Soviet nuclear arsenal, were left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow.

According to the Federation of American Scientists (FAS), Ukraine had approximately 3,000 tactical nuclear weapons that are meant to hit large military facilities, naval fleets and armoured formations, and 2,000 strategic nuclear weapons that are meant to destroy cities.

Despite having the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, the authority to use the centralised firing control of these weapons remained in Moscow.

Ukraine’s denuclearisation under Budapest Memorandum

Extensive negotiations between Ukraine, Russia, the UK and the US led to an agreement called the Budapest Memorandum.

As per the agreement, Ukraine agreed to dismantle its nuclear arsenal and delivery systems such as bombers and missiles with financial assistance from the West.

Ukraine agreed to its accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear weapon State.

The agreement assured Ukraine that Russia, US and UK would refrain from threatening it and respect its “independence and sovereignty and the existing borders”.

The six paragraph-agreement also assured Ukraine that the other three signatories will “refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations”.

It said that all the three signatories will not use economic coercion against Ukraine to secure advantages of any kind.

The three countries agreed to seek immediate action from the United Nations Security Council to provide assistance to Ukraine if it becomes “the victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.

The countries committed to not use nuclear weapons “against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State”.

All the four parties in the Budapest Memorandum agreed to consult “in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments”.

Russia’s violation of Budapest Memorandum

Russian takeover of Crimea in Ukraine’s territory in 2014 was considered a violation of the Budapest Memorandum. Putin, however, rejected the criticism calling the Budapest Memorandum invalid as it had been signed with a previous Ukrainian government.

Ukraine’s nuclear regret: A look back at when and why Kyiv gave up its arsenal

[tsupermario]

S400 and S500 air defence systems are powerful enough to DETER US and NATO to save ukraine

F22 and F35 stealth jet fighters are not good enough to challenge the russian air defence systems



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will it fare better against the b-2 or b-21?

[jojopad]

https://youtu.be/MsfUiTJv2lE

[jojopad]

Talagang papunta sa gulo at gera ulit ang mundo natin dahil sa mga ogag na mga pinuno tulad ni Putin.

Ganyan naman palagi nangyayari kapag meron isang pinuno na sobrang bilib sa kanyang sarili, na dinadaan niya sa lakas at gulo para makuha ang gusto niya.

[jojopad]

tldr

sabi ko western propaganda

coz i believe what happened in ukraine in 2014 is a US-backed coup

may track record ang US -- nagtatanggal ng lider ng ibang bansa pag hindi masunurin

(regime change policy)

Eto peyborit ni Putin, mga conspiracy theories para ma justify niya ang gera.

Yan din naman ang mali ng US nung sinakop nila ang Iraq.

Kung ako tatanungin, mas ok na matanggal ang mga lider na totalitarian at DICKtador. Ang totalitarianism ay madalas naaabuso, madalas pinagmumulan ng World War.

Paranoid talaga si Putin sa mga people power pro democracy movements, tulad nung nangyari sa Arab Springs. Syempre ang culprit dito mga Amerikano. So sa takot niya, imbis na idaan sa inpluwensya, sa dahas niya gagawin para mabawi mga "teritoryo" ng komunistang Russia.

Regime change through Western pro democracy "propaganda" is way better with totalitarian regimes with the constant threat of a global war to protect the dictator.

[kisshmet]

there was the Budapest Memorandum where the US, UK and Russia agreed not to use force against the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine



Ukraine’s nuclear regret: A look back at when and why Kyiv gave up its arsenal

budaphest memorandum made ukraine give up its nuclear weapons under their possession in exchange for security guarantees

ukraine looking for alliance with NATO will renege the budaphest memorandum (nuclear free ukraine) because as a NATO member they can now host nuclear weapons from NATO

ukraine wanted to accelerate their accession to NATO by issuing statements that if they didnt get to become a member of NATO they will develop their own nuclear weapons

these develepments prompted russia to finally make the COUNTER OFFENSIVE against the nuclearization of their western borders

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[jojopad]

budaphest memorandum made ukraine give up its nuclear weapons under their possession in exchange for security guarantees

ukraine looking for alliance with NATO will renege the budaphest memorandum (nuclear free ukraine) because as a NATO member they can now host nuclear weapons from NATO

ukraine wanted to accelerate their accession to NATO by issuing statements that if they didnt get to become a member of NATO they will develop their own nuclear weapons

these develepments prompted russia to finally make the COUNTER OFFENSIVE against the nuclearization of their western borders

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Counter offensive by waging a brutal war is so so wrong. Ukraine has the right to protect its democracy, every country that doesn't want to be part of mythical Russian empire.

This is going to be a long war at Ukraine while Putin is alive. Yung bayag nya nakataya na, wala nang atrasan ito. Kung hindi niya makuha yung gusto niya, mag escalate pa siya. Chemical weapons na ang next niyang gagamitin dyan. Tingin ko mas lalala pa ang situation.