The State of Nation...

[JCBalunsat]

It has been an issue since I can remember that the Philippines is in deep sh*t with debt and poverty is just inevitable here.
But then, why do we see luxury cars being driven (especially by MOST politicians), businessmen/women? As much as I can see, there 3 luxury cars worth more than a mil in 10 cars that you see in the streets? Isn't that odd? You also see a lot super cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche) roaming around the streets of the Metro. Is this really a sign of poverty or it's just a sugar coated country?

[safeorigin]

i dont think it's odd really. you know how the greedy and sneaky smuggle cars ya know

[JCBalunsat]

I guess so but then, wouldn't it be a great thing if we moved forward? Coz if we do, that will mean more toys for us at a cheaper cost... 240SX. hmmm yummy.

[blue1108]

sna nga mangyari yun. problem is, yng mga politicians natin are only in it for themselves. masyadong maraming nakikinabang sa graft and corruption.
the funny thing is, magaganda ang mga batas natin. hindi lang tlga naiimplement dahil walang disiplina mga enforcers and karamihan ng mga kababayan natin.

in my opinion, we have 2 main problems that need to be addressed, national discipline and more importantly national pride. unless we develop these 2 characteristics nationally. hindi tlga uunlad bansa natin.

[JCBalunsat]

sna nga mangyari yun. problem is, yng mga politicians natin are only in it for themselves. masyadong maraming nakikinabang sa graft and corruption.
the funny thing is, magaganda ang mga batas natin. hindi lang tlga naiimplement dahil walang disiplina mga enforcers and karamihan ng mga kababayan natin.

in my opinion, we have 2 main problems that need to be addressed, national discipline and more importantly national pride. unless we develop these 2 characteristics nationally. hindi tlga uunlad bansa natin.

very well said. dapat mailapit natin to sa mga kapuso... Wish Ko lang!

[safeorigin]

the ironic thing is that lawmakers are the ones breaking the law

[A121]

after 3 people powers, we are still in deep sh*t. we've changed our leaders every so often, but still we're poor in every aspect imaginable.

maybe, we have a very fractured and sick culture. maybe, it's time to blame ourselves for all of this.

hopefully, we can start change.

[jeffrocks]

kaya nga napag tanto ng U.S. government noon na buti na lang daw at di pumayag ang pinas gov't na isali sa 50 states...dahil hard-headed at hard-to- handle at mga spoiled brats pa... ultimong simple traffic di kayang sundin...OT

[kinyo]

the word "dysfunctional" seems to be the favorite of the day ... from Inquirer today

[CVT]

^^^ I hope that this series of events would truly give rise to a new and vibrant Philippines. We do not owe it to ourselves, but to the generations after us....

But we taxpayers who are driving this country are beset by heavy baggages,- politicians and government officials who have insatiable appetite for wealth and power. (This group includes the rich people who underpay their taxes). And poor people who do not pay their taxes and yet, demand so much from the government and yet, can warp our democratic process for a measly sum of money. We're caught in the middle of all these lunatic things. We're getting disenchanted..... Sometimes, I would like to believe that the only hope for a new and vibrant Philippines is to nuke this country and almost all its people to the ground and start anew with 1 year-old and below babies, as one writer sarcastically suggested....

5505:home:

[ringostarr]

It has been an issue since I can remember that the Philippines is in deep sh*t with debt and poverty is just inevitable here.
But then, why do we see luxury cars being driven (especially by MOST politicians), businessmen/women? As much as I can see, there 3 luxury cars worth more than a mil in 10 cars that you see in the streets? Isn't that odd? You also see a lot super cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche) roaming around the streets of the Metro. Is this really a sign of poverty or it's just a sugar coated country?

some people are good at making money than others. it's simple as that.
that's the very essence of a democracy or a capitalistic country for that matter. if a country is 80% poor, then that shouldnt mean that all should be poor. pang komunista yan ideal na yan.

of course, the gap is widening between the rich and the poor. this looks bad pero what can we do? fair game ito. hindi naman siguro pumapatay yun pulitiko just to drive those expensive cars (like what's happening in some parts of Africa). ginagamit lang niya ang utak nya. wala naman mass killing ngaun in fact padami pa nga tayo ng padami.

who can you blame? corruption? corruption is present not only in politics/govt. but also in the family. if a dad favors an elder son, then that only means may nagagawa ang elder son sa kanya (be it emotional security, financial security, morale security, or just satisfying his father ego) more than his other sons/daughters. that's corruption also.

[1D4LV]

imho... in every country or society, there are rich people and there are poor people. in fact, this economic gap in the society already existed during biblical times.

the only thing i really hate thinking is some of the rich guys here in the Philippines and specially those people who are in the government get their money by robbing the middle age folks as well as the poor people and use the money to make their lives more comfortable and high profile. di bale kung yung perang ginagamit nila (like the legit businessmen like Sy, Yuchengcos, the Ayalas, etc.) eh galing sa legit business eh.

i pay more than 38% in my taxes (wala akong choice, deducted sa salary ko...) and i pay taxes when i register my car (road users tax), when i gas up, do groceries, eat out (VAT), and even when i watch a movie (local entertainment tax). in fact, even the interest rates of my deposits are being taxed, and i see people getting money where i would want them to see (education, infrastructure, healthcare) ended up in the pockets of these individuals who live in houses where my house looks like a maid quarter and drive luxury vehicles which box me off the road dahil may mga escorts and wang-wang sila. dun ako nafrufrustrate.

i have to admit that corruption is everywhere. yung iba lang, medyo hindi garapal. i know it exists even in the United States or in Canada, but at least, the basic needs of the people are met, and kung meron man, hindi garapal.

but of course, if we live in a socialist or communist society, it could have been worst...pero at least, people's basic needs there are provided (except North Korea, i think....)

so what do we need to do now? even though we call for GMA's resignation, its the culture and the system which needs to be changed.

but as a person occupying a key place in my company's business and operations, this unrest will not help.

as an individual with interests in stocks, equities and mutual funds, this also does not help.

so ang nangyayari dito ngayon, lahat talo. talo ang business, talo ang investors, talo ang consumers, talo ang mga OFW's, talo ang bayan. sino ang nananalo? ang mga nakaupo. may pera na sila, lumalaki pa ang pera nila. as far as i know, ang mga politicians natin (with exception to a few), have overseas bank deposits. and their money is still getting bigger from these deposits, tapos may mga ninanakaw pa sila. their riches can last their families for at least four generations na.

haay nako... frustrated na naman ako.

[xoom]

some people are good at making money than others. it's simple as that.
that's the very essence of a democracy or a capitalistic country for that matter. if a country is 80% poor, then that shouldnt mean that all should be poor. pang komunista yan ideal na yan.

of course, the gap is widening between the rich and the poor. this looks bad pero what can we do? .fair game ito hindi naman siguro pumapatay yun pulitiko just to drive those expensive cars (like what's happening in some parts of Africa). ginagamit lang niya ang utak nya. wala naman mass killing ngaun in fact padami pa nga tayo ng padami.

who can you blame? corruption? corruption is present not only in politics/govt. but also in the family. if a dad favors an elder son, then that only means may nagagawa ang elder son sa kanya (be it emotional security, financial security, morale security, or just satisfying his father ego) more than his other sons/daughters. that's corruption also.

ipupusta ko ang pinakahuling turnilyo ng oto ko, this is a classic OB argument

[bayonic]

i pay more than 38% in my taxes (wala akong choice, deducted sa salary ko...) and i pay taxes when i register my car (road users tax), when i gas up, do groceries, eat out (VAT), and even when i watch a movie (local entertainment tax). in fact, even the interest rates of my deposits are being taxed, and i see people getting money where i would want them to see (education, infrastructure, healthcare) ended up in the pockets of these individuals who live in houses where my house looks like a maid quarter and drive luxury vehicles which box me off the road dahil may mga escorts and wang-wang sila. dun ako nafrufrustrate.

very well said !

if we want change we should start with ourselves , our children....
and we should never fail to show our disgust and contempt to those A**HOLES in our government who are robbing us and our country blind.

OSTRACIZE THEM !

[Lucius]

Ako na lang sana naging only son ni FG and GMA. Sarap siguro nun, walang kapatid. Wala na ko paki sa kanila sabihin ko "Mom I will leave the country na, bye." Kasama ng mana ko, sarap nun

[H1Tman]

A lot of times I think we deserve the kind of government we have now. And the saddest part is I don't know if we can still change as a nation.

[uls]

The Freakin State of the Freakin Nation:

Rich: What's new? Getting richer parin. Standard of living keeps on improving. Demand for exclusivity driving demand for imported luxury automobiles (Who wants to be seen in regular a car?) Travel, travel, travel...weak dollar makes travel abroad less costly. In trickle-down-economics... these people get the trickles first... di pala trickles... buhos.

Working Class/OFW families: Wages are stagnant, cost of living is rising. OFWs: Less pesos for every dollar. Having hard time making ends meet, having hard time sustaining lifestyle... either cutting back on unnecessary spending or borrowing money to sustain lifestyle.

Poor: Forget about it. 1 meal a day is considered a good day. Surviving is a daily struggle.

[boydapa]

o ayan sinulat na ni uls^ up! that is the state

kawawang ofw sila na nga biktima ng kahirapan d2 kaya umalis ng bansa para makasweldo ng matino sila pa din biktima dahil dugo at pawis nila ang pinagmamalaki ng gobyerno kaya daw gumanda ekonomiya natin----GINISA BA SA SARILING MANTIKA!

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ringostarr


of course, the gap is widening between the rich and the poor. this looks bad pero what can we do? fair game ito. hindi naman siguro pumapatay yun pulitiko just to drive those expensive cars (like what's happening in some parts of Africa). ginagamit lang niya ang utak nya. wala naman mass killing ngaun in fact padami pa nga tayo ng padami.
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mali ata ang term na ito fair game ba dito? this country is ruled by oligarchs both economically and politically. halos walang say ang 80% na poor dito sa bansang ito sa sa distribution of wealth, pagawa ng batas, pag pipirma ng mga kurakot na kontrata, sa justice system etc etc. that is not a fair game. pwede maging fair yan basta hwag mo tawaging democracy yan.

oo totoo wala nga mass killings pero marami naman namamatay sa gutom at nagpapakamatay sa gutom. mass hunger ang nangyayari dito! so medyo mali yun argument na ganun think about it

[uls]

Yung kinaganda ng economy natin di pa nag-trickle down to the working class and poor.

matagal-tagal pa yan...

[claRkEnt]

Ako na lang sana naging only son ni FG and GMA. Sarap siguro nun, walang kapatid. Wala na ko paki sa kanila sabihin ko "Mom I will leave the country na, bye." Kasama ng mana ko, sarap nun

sabi nga ni Salceda, GMA is a lucky B*TCH...

...consequently, you will now be the luckiest SON of a B*TCH.

Yung kinaganda ng economy natin di pa nag-trickle down to the working class and poor.

matagal-tagal pa yan...

aptly termed... TRICKLE... talagang trickle na lang mararamdaman sa ibaba dahil sinahod na lahat ng mga nasa itaas.