Lozada being tagged as a hero can you guys enlighten me.

[froshie1]

Diba sinabi na din ni Jun Lozada na may iregularidad syang mga transaksyon noong nasa gobyerno sya? Eh baket ngayon panay praise sa kanya na sya daw ay hero? Dahil lang ba sya ang star witness sa NBN deal?

Ang bumabagabag sa akin ay, ganito na ba values natin? Kung magnakaw ng isang milyon ok lang pag hundreds of millions or billions hindi na?

Due process ba ang ginagawang pangdinig sa Senado? Baket hindi diretso sa korte ang pangdinig sa kaso na yan?

[RedHorse]

he will be,

pag natanggal si GMA...

laughing stock sya, pag walang gumalaw sa mga sundalo..

malapit na 2010 kasi, mga presidentiables are cautious, naghahanap na sila ngmagaling na psychic, spin docs, and the likes

[badsekktor]

pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan

[jpatricks1]

pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan

True but it's not that simple. By telling the truth he is challenging a lot of very powerful people who can very easily have him silenced.

Hindi madali yung ginawa nya lalo na't pamilyado sya. He took a big risk no just on his life but to his family too.

[jpatricks1]

pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan

True but it's not that simple. By telling the truth he is challenging a lot of very powerful people who can very easily have him silenced.

Hindi madali yung ginawa nya lalo na't pamilyado sya. He took a big risk not just on his life but to his family too.

[laracroft]

totally agree with you bro jpatricks1.

how many here would risk not only
their lives but also their family's
just to tell the truth?

madaling sabihin pero mahirap gawin.
mas madaling tumahimik na lang at
mag-enjoy kung di ka naman apektado.
buti na lang at apektado ang kanyang
konsiyensiya. as far as i know, he wasn't
coerced into doing what he is doing. i
can only hope that it was indeed God
who convicted him to come out into
the open.

[washburn]

hapitan kasi ang oposisyon kaya walang naniniwala kay lozada e
nagmumuka kasing politika

pwedeng nagsasabi siya ng totoo, pero ginagamit naman to ng oposisyon

ano ba talaga ang katotohanan? malabo e, sawa na mga tao

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[Galactus]

If you can't see why he's not being tagged as a hero, then you're just as blind as the others who couldn't care less while Pandak and her minions while they are screwing us.

Inamin naman ni Lozada na may sabit din siya, and it takes courage for someone to admit that. Lahat naman ng kumalaban kay Pandak tsaka kay Fat Bastard, either nakakulong or nabayaran or harassed (by state agents, i.e. BIR, DOJ, NBI, PNP, AFP). After all, who in his right mind would want to challenge the state? May choice ka naman na manahimik na lang and live a peaceful life, yet he chose the road less traveled.

Personally though, I think the "hero" label is overreaching. It's just that in a sea of criminality, decadence and abuse, the public is in search of people they want to label as heroes.

[van_wilder]

pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan

uhmmmmm no comment. please do a background check. nothing but another crybaby. wheres the risk if someone is protecting him?

[van_wilder]

if he is really sincere, bakit hindi nya ibalik lahat ng pera and ari-arian nya?? eh dba lahat yun nakaw nya...

Ilocos Norte Rep. Ferdinand Marcos Jr. has a very interesting anecdote about former House Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr. and Senate witness Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. The opposition congressman says whenever he wanted to discuss a Chinese-related project proposal to De Venecia when he was still lording it over at the House, De Venecia would almost always send over to him the same consultant to discuss any proposed venture. Guess who the consultant was? Why, Lozada, no less!

[mazingerZ]

Hero my a$$. . . More like a pawn being used by Lacson. The more he speaks the more incredulous it sounds.

[Bogeyman]

Due process ba ang ginagawang pangdinig sa Senado? Baket hindi diretso sa korte ang pangdinig sa kaso na yan?

The Office of the Ombudsman is already conducting a parallel investigation; it's just a matter of consolidating the charges, since there are at least 7 filed against the respondents, including FG Mike Arroyo.

Besides, magkaiba yung purpose ng Ombudsman at Senate, with the former reportedly saying that they will be using the latter's findings in pursuing the case, so technically the Senate is free to continue the hearings in aid of legislation.

[Galactus]

How can you trust the Ombudsman, when it has only summoned government officials recently? Eh matagal na tong kasong ito. The Ombudsman can investigate cases motu propio (or on its own initiative), pero ngayon lang sila kumikilos!

And remember, the Ombudsman cleared Abalos dun sa Comelec computerization deal. Kaya nga nag-resign si Simeon Marcelo eh. Ask around why re resigned. After the fall of Pandak, maybe he can tell his story.

[shadow]

How can you trust the Ombudsman, when it has only summoned government officials recently? Eh matagal na tong kasong ito. The Ombudsman can investigate cases motu propio (or on its own initiative), pero ngayon lang sila kumikilos!

And remember, the Ombudsman cleared Abalos dun sa Comelec computerization deal. Kaya nga nag-resign si Simeon Marcelo eh. Ask around why re resigned. After the fall of Pandak, maybe he can tell his story.

bro, the reason why marcelo resigned yata if I remember it right was bec of the nani perez case..nonetheless yun kalokohan pa rin ng mga tao ni GMA na pinapabayaan lang nila

[shadow]

alam niyo it is easier for lozada to just stay silent, mas maraming mawawala sa kanya sa ginawa niyang ito...if he didn't talk then meron pa rin siyang trabaho, meron pang pera and everything in between...

[VtEC]

A hero (Greek: ἥρως), in Greek mythology and folklore, was originally a demi-god, the offspring of a mortal and a deity.[1] Later, hero (male) and heroine (female) came to refer to characters that, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and the will for self-sacrifice, that is, heroism, for some greater good, originally of martial courage or excellence but extended to more general moral excellence.

pasok sya sa definition ng hero.......

pero as a public servant trabaho nyang maglingkod sa bayan.ang magsilbi, wag mangurakot at magsabi ng totoo.so duty nyang talaga yan.kaya no way na tawagin syang hero.

[CVT]

alam niyo it is easier for lozada to just stay silent, mas maraming mawawala sa kanya sa ginawa niyang ito...if he didn't talk then meron pa rin siyang trabaho, meron pang pera and everything in between...

Iyan ngayon si Neri,- Magna Cum Laude pa naman ng UP.....
(Sorry bros, do not misunderstand me as it is not my intention to fan anything. Nanghihinayang lang ako at nalulungkot for all of us who chose to slug it out here in our country ....)

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[Galactus]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galactus
How can you trust the Ombudsman, when it has only summoned government officials recently? Eh matagal na tong kasong ito. The Ombudsman can investigate cases motu propio (or on its own initiative), pero ngayon lang sila kumikilos!

And remember, the Ombudsman cleared Abalos dun sa Comelec computerization deal. Kaya nga nag-resign si Simeon Marcelo eh. Ask around why re resigned. After the fall of Pandak, maybe he can tell his story.

bro, the reason why marcelo resigned yata if I remember it right was bec of the nani perez case..nonetheless yun kalokohan pa rin ng mga tao ni GMA na pinapabayaan lang nila

Sorry for my confusing statement. What I meant was, Marcelo could no longer stomach the shenanigans at the Office of the Ombudsman, so he opted to resign. The Nani Perez case is just the tip of the iceberg, madami pang pina-freezer si Darth Pandak na kaso diyan.

Oo nga naman, yung mga ibang Pinoy, bira ng bira kay Lozada, kunwari gusto nilang umunlad ang Pinas, natatakot daw ang mga investors. Yet they're willing to turn a blind eye to all the corruption, and not speak out. Ngayong may nagsasalita, gusto siyang patahimikin.

Eh paano nga uunlad, puro kickback ang nasa utak ng mga nasa poder. I'm not going to wait until 2010 para patalsikin si Pandak. That will give her 2 more years to milk more money from the public. Naka 8 years na rin siya, marami-rami na rin ang nakamal nilang mag-asawa. Alam ba nilang they can't bring their wealth to Hell?

[tsupermario]

How can you trust the Ombudsman, when it has only summoned government officials recently? Eh matagal na tong kasong ito. The Ombudsman can investigate cases motu propio (or on its own initiative), pero ngayon lang sila kumikilos!

And remember, the Ombudsman cleared Abalos dun sa Comelec computerization deal. Kaya nga nag-resign si Simeon Marcelo eh. Ask around why re resigned. After the fall of Pandak, maybe he can tell his story.

si merceditas gutierrez na inappoint ni gma para pumalit kay marcelo, classmate ni 1st gentleman sa law school

[cutedoc]

hmm so here's lozada now saying his piece, but have you guys forgotten about classisa ocampo the star witness in eraps case? is she a hero? yes erap did o to jail, but secluding in a convenient location with special priviledges arent what i picture it to be. where do you think erap is right now, he was pardoned by gma, he is a free man, if he did commit money laundering and corruption then he was just foolish to get caught but if he was asked to returned some money i am sure a lot of it is still with him.

for neri, i think gma had given him enough money to raise his children grandchildren, just to shut up.