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    It has been an issue since I can remember that the Philippines is in deep sh*t with debt and poverty is just inevitable here.
    But then, why do we see luxury cars being driven (especially by MOST politicians), businessmen/women? As much as I can see, there 3 luxury cars worth more than a mil in 10 cars that you see in the streets? Isn't that odd? You also see a lot super cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche) roaming around the streets of the Metro. Is this really a sign of poverty or it's just a sugar coated country?

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    i dont think it's odd really. you know how the greedy and sneaky smuggle cars ya know
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    I guess so but then, wouldn't it be a great thing if we moved forward? Coz if we do, that will mean more toys for us at a cheaper cost... 240SX. hmmm yummy.

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    sna nga mangyari yun. problem is, yng mga politicians natin are only in it for themselves. masyadong maraming nakikinabang sa graft and corruption.
    the funny thing is, magaganda ang mga batas natin. hindi lang tlga naiimplement dahil walang disiplina mga enforcers and karamihan ng mga kababayan natin.

    in my opinion, we have 2 main problems that need to be addressed, national discipline and more importantly national pride. unless we develop these 2 characteristics nationally. hindi tlga uunlad bansa natin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue1108 View Post
    sna nga mangyari yun. problem is, yng mga politicians natin are only in it for themselves. masyadong maraming nakikinabang sa graft and corruption.
    the funny thing is, magaganda ang mga batas natin. hindi lang tlga naiimplement dahil walang disiplina mga enforcers and karamihan ng mga kababayan natin.

    in my opinion, we have 2 main problems that need to be addressed, national discipline and more importantly national pride. unless we develop these 2 characteristics nationally. hindi tlga uunlad bansa natin.
    very well said. dapat mailapit natin to sa mga kapuso... Wish Ko lang!

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    the ironic thing is that lawmakers are the ones breaking the law
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCBalunsat View Post
    It has been an issue since I can remember that the Philippines is in deep sh*t with debt and poverty is just inevitable here.
    But then, why do we see luxury cars being driven (especially by MOST politicians), businessmen/women? As much as I can see, there 3 luxury cars worth more than a mil in 10 cars that you see in the streets? Isn't that odd? You also see a lot super cars (Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche) roaming around the streets of the Metro. Is this really a sign of poverty or it's just a sugar coated country?
    some people are good at making money than others. it's simple as that.
    that's the very essence of a democracy or a capitalistic country for that matter. if a country is 80% poor, then that shouldnt mean that all should be poor. pang komunista yan ideal na yan.

    of course, the gap is widening between the rich and the poor. this looks bad pero what can we do? fair game ito. hindi naman siguro pumapatay yun pulitiko just to drive those expensive cars (like what's happening in some parts of Africa). ginagamit lang niya ang utak nya. wala naman mass killing ngaun in fact padami pa nga tayo ng padami.

    who can you blame? corruption? corruption is present not only in politics/govt. but also in the family. if a dad favors an elder son, then that only means may nagagawa ang elder son sa kanya (be it emotional security, financial security, morale security, or just satisfying his father ego) more than his other sons/daughters. that's corruption also.

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    imho... in every country or society, there are rich people and there are poor people. in fact, this economic gap in the society already existed during biblical times.

    the only thing i really hate thinking is some of the rich guys here in the Philippines and specially those people who are in the government get their money by robbing the middle age folks as well as the poor people and use the money to make their lives more comfortable and high profile. di bale kung yung perang ginagamit nila (like the legit businessmen like Sy, Yuchengcos, the Ayalas, etc.) eh galing sa legit business eh.

    i pay more than 38% in my taxes (wala akong choice, deducted sa salary ko...) and i pay taxes when i register my car (road users tax), when i gas up, do groceries, eat out (VAT), and even when i watch a movie (local entertainment tax). in fact, even the interest rates of my deposits are being taxed, and i see people getting money where i would want them to see (education, infrastructure, healthcare) ended up in the pockets of these individuals who live in houses where my house looks like a maid quarter and drive luxury vehicles which box me off the road dahil may mga escorts and wang-wang sila. dun ako nafrufrustrate.

    i have to admit that corruption is everywhere. yung iba lang, medyo hindi garapal. i know it exists even in the United States or in Canada, but at least, the basic needs of the people are met, and kung meron man, hindi garapal.

    but of course, if we live in a socialist or communist society, it could have been worst...pero at least, people's basic needs there are provided (except North Korea, i think....)

    so what do we need to do now? even though we call for GMA's resignation, its the culture and the system which needs to be changed.

    but as a person occupying a key place in my company's business and operations, this unrest will not help.

    as an individual with interests in stocks, equities and mutual funds, this also does not help.

    so ang nangyayari dito ngayon, lahat talo. talo ang business, talo ang investors, talo ang consumers, talo ang mga OFW's, talo ang bayan. sino ang nananalo? ang mga nakaupo. may pera na sila, lumalaki pa ang pera nila. as far as i know, ang mga politicians natin (with exception to a few), have overseas bank deposits. and their money is still getting bigger from these deposits, tapos may mga ninanakaw pa sila. their riches can last their families for at least four generations na.

    haay nako... frustrated na naman ako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    i pay more than 38% in my taxes (wala akong choice, deducted sa salary ko...) and i pay taxes when i register my car (road users tax), when i gas up, do groceries, eat out (VAT), and even when i watch a movie (local entertainment tax). in fact, even the interest rates of my deposits are being taxed, and i see people getting money where i would want them to see (education, infrastructure, healthcare) ended up in the pockets of these individuals who live in houses where my house looks like a maid quarter and drive luxury vehicles which box me off the road dahil may mga escorts and wang-wang sila. dun ako nafrufrustrate.

    very well said !

    if we want change we should start with ourselves , our children....
    and we should never fail to show our disgust and contempt to those A**HOLES in our government who are robbing us and our country blind.

    OSTRACIZE THEM !

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    Ako na lang sana naging only son ni FG and GMA. Sarap siguro nun, walang kapatid. Wala na ko paki sa kanila sabihin ko "Mom I will leave the country na, bye." Kasama ng mana ko, sarap nun

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    A lot of times I think we deserve the kind of government we have now. And the saddest part is I don't know if we can still change as a nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringostarr View Post
    some people are good at making money than others. it's simple as that.
    that's the very essence of a democracy or a capitalistic country for that matter. if a country is 80% poor, then that shouldnt mean that all should be poor. pang komunista yan ideal na yan.

    of course, the gap is widening between the rich and the poor. this looks bad pero what can we do? .fair game ito hindi naman siguro pumapatay yun pulitiko just to drive those expensive cars (like what's happening in some parts of Africa). ginagamit lang niya ang utak nya. wala naman mass killing ngaun in fact padami pa nga tayo ng padami.

    who can you blame? corruption? corruption is present not only in politics/govt. but also in the family. if a dad favors an elder son, then that only means may nagagawa ang elder son sa kanya (be it emotional security, financial security, morale security, or just satisfying his father ego) more than his other sons/daughters. that's corruption also.

    ipupusta ko ang pinakahuling turnilyo ng oto ko, this is a classic OB argument

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