Pope: Stephen Hawking is wrong

[jimnyeatworld]

tama OB, I will back you up!

back up ba? cge banatan mo ng order of the shadow, yun isang pang group ng illuminati

[jimnyeatworld]

Paktay tayo dyan. Nyahahaha




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Well.. Hindi madaling paniwalaan yung ginawa tayo ni God in 7 days. Kasi mahirap hanapan ng proof. Kailangan talaga ng "Faith" para maniwala ka. Nagsisimba naman ako every Sunday.

Pero habang binabasa ko lahat ng sinasabi ni uls, may point talaga siya. Science can explain everything IMHO.

Hindi ko lang kayang tanggapin na unggoy tayo noon. Hahahahahaha

*uls,

may mga unggoy sa'tin noon *SG. sadly ito yun mga humans na may hawig sa skull ng chimps kasi nga meron society noon araw nakipag-mate/ breeding sa apes.

and their descendants live among us. who knows baka anak ni Charles Darwin yun iba dun.

meron kasi ganyan mga intelihente na mga tao noon. sabihin i wanna be famous, so mag-ti-theory ako galing ang tao sa unggoy. tapos may kokontrotahin sya isang community makipag-*** sa mga unggoy. tapos yun offspring babaon nila sa lupa para ma-discover ng ... 20th century scientists

[safeorigin]

mutations per se don't happen by "chance". they happen due to intervening factors during DNA/RNA replication: chemicals, radiation and genetic triggers.

sometimes mutation is a programmed reaction like in the skin. UV radiation triggers melanin production which mutates the skin to protect what's underneath. however, prolonged exposure can cause cancer since the programmed "stop" or "regulating" sequence is either erased or corrupted due to UV radiation.

these would disrupt transcription, synthesis, enzymes, positioning, combination etc.

likewise, pathogens adapt to their environment because of constant threat to their specie. bacterias mutate often because a***ual reproduction doesn't allow flaws due to environment to be corrected whereas in ***ual reproduction healthy genes from the partner will correct the defect. the consequence is that mutated genes will be passed on.

there is a goal: to make the "specie" survive

there is a purpose: to multiply

[jonski]

OT


Sa heaven ba mapupunta yung Good Samaritan kahit na iba ang sinasamba nya?

[uls]

mutations per se don't happen by "chance". they happen due to intervening factors during DNA/RNA replication: chemicals, radiation and genetic triggers.

sometimes mutation is a programmed reaction like in the skin. UV radiation triggers melanin production which mutates the skin to protect what's underneath. however, prolonged exposure can cause cancer since the programmed "stop" or "regulating" sequence is either erased or corrupted due to UV radiation.

these would disrupt transcription, synthesis, enzymes, positioning, combination etc.

likewise, pathogens adapt to their environment because of constant threat to their specie. bacterias mutate often because a***ual reproduction doesn't allow flaws due to environment to be corrected whereas in ***ual reproduction healthy genes from the partner will correct the defect. the consequence is that mutated genes will be passed on.

there is a goal: to make the "specie" survive

there is a purpose: to multiply

kaya nga "chance"

no supernatural being is directing things

evolution is not a planned process

evolution has no goal or purpose

the end result isnt visualized

evolution is NOT some kind of consciousness

evolution doesnt think

evolution just happens

evolution doesnt care about success or failure

the long term result of evolution is that a species is matched to its environment, neither too weak nor too strong for bare survival

if too weak for bare survival, the species dies

if too strong for bare survival, mutations will degenerate the species until it is matched to its environment again

evolution produces the worst possible organism that will still survive

mutations produce chaos with genetic accident after accident, mostly fatal

evolution uses death to sort out all the mutations

if a mutation is harmful, it is eliminated from the gene pool

evolution has no goal

evolution doesnt seek excellence or perfection

evolution doesnt seek anything

there's no director running the show

there's no consciousness, no goal, no purpose

evolution simply happens

[jimnyeatworld]

OT


Sa heaven ba mapupunta yung Good Samaritan kahit na iba ang sinasamba nya?

depende pa din. hindi naman helping/loving others ang doorway to heaven

pag pinagmalaki nya sa religion nya yun ginawa nya, malamang sa hell version din ng religion nya sa mapupunta

one important of aspect of faith is to humble yourself before God. if the Good Samaritan becomes too proud of what he did, i doubt he went to heaven.

[uls]

how did humans evolve large brains?

our ancient ancestors learned to eat meat and cook

Did the discovery of cooking make us human?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8543906.stm

Cooking is something we all take for granted but a new theory suggests that if we had not learned to cook food, not only would we still look like chimps but, like them, we would also be compelled to spend most of the day chewing.

Without cooking, an average person would have to eat around five kilos of raw food to get enough calories to survive.

The daily mountain of fruit and vegetables would mean a six-hour chewing marathon.

It is already accepted that the introduction of meat into our ancestors' diet caused their brains to grow and their intelligence to increase.

Meat - a more concentrated form of energy - not only meant bigger brains for our ancestors, but also an end to the need to devote nearly all their time to foraging to maintain energy levels.

As a consequence, more time was available for social structure to develop.

'Accident'
Harvard Professor Richard Wrangham believes there is more to it than simply discovering meat.

He thinks that it is not so much a change in the ingredients of our diet, but the way in which we prepare them that has caused the radical evolution of our species.

"I think cooking is arguably the biggest increase in the quality of the diet in the whole of the history of life," he says.

"Our ancestors most probably dropped food in fire accidently. They would have found it was delicious and that set us off on a whole new direction."

To understand how and when our bodies changed, we need to take a closer look at what our ancestors ate by studying the fossil records.

Our earliest ancestor was the ape-like Australopithecus.

Australopithecus had a large belly containing a big large-intestine, essential to digest the robust plant matter, and had large, flat teeth which it used for grinding and crushing tough vegetation.

None the less, it was Australopithecus that moved out of the trees and onto the African savannah, and started to eat the animals that grazed there.

And it was this change of habitat, lifestyle and diet that also prompted major changes in anatomy.

Bigger brain
The eating of meat ties in with an evolutionary shift 2.3 million years ago resulting in a more human-looking ancestor with sharper teeth and a 30% bigger brain, called Homo habilis.

The most momentous shift however, happened 1.8 million years ago when Homo erectus - our first "truly human" ancestor arrived on the scene.

Homo erectus had an even bigger brain, smaller jaws and teeth.

Erectus also had a similar body shape to us. Shorter arms and longer legs appeared, and gone was the large vegetable-processing gut, meaning that Erectus could not only walk upright, but could also run.

He was cleverer and faster, and - according to Professor Wrangham - he had learned how to cook.

"Cooking made our guts smaller," he says. "Once we cooked our food, we didn't need big guts.

"They're costly in terms of energy. Individuals that were born with small guts were able to save energy, have more babies and survive better."

Professor Peter Wheeler from Liverpool John Moores University and his colleague, Leslie Aiello, think it was this change in our digestive system that specifically allowed our brains to get larger.

Energy transfer
Cooking food breaks down its cells, meaning that our stomachs need to do less work to liberate the nutrients our bodies need.

This, says Wheeler, "freed up energy which could then be used to power a larger brain. The increase in brain-size mirrors the reduction in the size of the gut."

Significantly Wheeler and Aiello found that the reduction in the size of our digestive system was exactly the same amount that our brains grew by - 20%.

Professor Stephen Secor at the University of Alabama found that not only does cooked food release more energy, but the body uses less energy in digesting it.

He uses pythons as a model for digestion as they stay still for up to six days while digesting a meal. This makes them the perfect model as the only energy they expend is on digestion.

His research shows that pythons use 24% less energy digesting cooked meat, compared with raw.

So being human might all be down to energy.

Cooking is essentially a form of pre-digestion, which has transferred energy use from our guts to our brains.

According to Professors Wheeler and Wrangham and their colleagues, it is no coincidence that humans - the cleverest species on earth - are also the only species that cooks.

[humble]

i really like your post.... and it very education and true....why? because God created all of us and not came from the evolution of the monkey....most of the scientist does not believe God which is very wrong...they have for something but to God they did not believe....people now a days are very fun in reading books, pocket book, novel etc...but if you will asked them if they are reading their BIBLE? most of them will answer "NO" because they dont have any Bible at home....we always asked wisdom to God but how can He give us what we asked for if even the Bible were not reading it? you will find wisdom, blessing and strength IF you START READING YOUR BIBLE....

[humble]

if indeed Man is evolving as science says it to be, bakit ang mga blacks kahits sa lupalop ng mundo mapunta mapa-US mapa- Europe, maitim pa din? diba dapat pumuputi na sila kasi sa Africa lang mainit

THERE IS A GOOD THING AND BAD THING WHEN WE LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE. if you believe God...and you are reading His final authority which is the Bible your question will be answered.....try it now! read your Bible...

[safeorigin]

kaya nga "chance"

no supernatural being is directing things

evolution is not a planned process

evolution has no goal or purpose

the end result isnt visualized

evolution is NOT some kind of consciousness

evolution doesnt think

evolution just happens

evolution doesnt care about success or failure

the long term result of evolution is that a species is matched to its environment, neither too weak nor too strong for bare survival

if too weak for bare survival, the species dies

if too strong for bare survival, mutations will degenerate the species until it is matched to its environment again

evolution produces the worst possible organism that will still survive

mutations produce chaos with genetic accident after accident, mostly fatal

evolution uses death to sort out all the mutations

if a mutation is harmful, it is eliminated from the gene pool

evolution has no goal

evolution doesnt seek excellence or perfection

evolution doesnt seek anything

there's no director running the show

there's no consciousness, no goal, no purpose

evolution simply happens

evolution is a necessity, it has a goal: short term; continuous; shifting
there is a purpose: make necessary changes and if possible even be a revolution that would upset the competition
macroevolution has no end result; microevolution does; terminal specie is the end result
evolution always seeks success of the specie
if it is too strong, it becomes the apex of the food chain; the rest has to evolve or die; thus it becomes a revolution
to "degenerate" is also aimed for success: it rebalances the system to accommodate supply during scarcity in order for the specie to survive OR to maintain natural order - complex societies in nature such as bees, termites, ants etc. develop castes which is also observable among humans
there is a purpose: otherwise symbiosis wouldn't exist
humans as they are at present no longer have to undergo macroevolution since technology is the extension of his evolution - and because he is the apex, he is a revolution for everything else until of course he is threatened by another revolution... or an evolved specie

[shadow]

Uls, ikaw naman sumagot...

[uls]

evolution is a necessity, it has a goal: short term; continuous; shifting
there is a purpose: make necessary changes and if possible even be a revolution that would upset the competition
macroevolution has no end result; microevolution does; terminal specie is the end result

you're not getting my point

when we look at evolution, we see a goal or purpose

like when a bacteria strain develops resistance to antibiotics, we think that it's the bacteria's goal -- to develop resistance

but it's not. there's no goal. the mutation that made it resistant was an accident. it wasnt planned or intended. if there was no mutation, the bacteria is wiped out the antibiotics. it's not as if there's a conscious force within the bacteria that created the mutation specifically to resist the antibiotics. it's chance

i'll continue

[uls]

evolution always seeks success of the specie
if it is too strong, it becomes the apex of the food chain; the rest has to evolve or die; thus it becomes a revolution
to "degenerate" is also aimed for success: it rebalances the system to accommodate supply during scarcity in order for the specie to survive OR to maintain natural order - complex societies in nature such as bees, termites, ants etc. develop castes which is also observable among humans
there is a purpose: otherwise symbiosis wouldn't exist
humans as they are at present no longer have to undergo macroevolution since technology is the extension of his evolution - and because he is the apex, he is a revolution for everything else until of course he is threatened by another revolution... or an evolved specie

evolution matches an organism to its environment

when is say an organism becomes "too strong" means that it has conquered its environment

natural selection is no longer keeping the species under control. the gene pool of the species is no longer lean.

an example is man

man used to be controlled by natural selection. life was tough. the weak die, the strong survive and multiply. those will genetic defects dont get to live long enough to have children. the gene pool was lean, high quality

but humans have conquered nature

we developed agriculture, vaccines and medicine, shelter, clothing etc

we're no longer at nature's mercy

we developed agriculture so we no longer have to hunt (humans used to be nomads/hunter-gatherers who experienced bouts of famine). we now eat 3 times a day (high carb diet of modern man causing diabetes. man didnt evolve to eat like that)

we settled and planted food and domesticated animals

we made clothes and live indoors so we're not exposed to the elements

humans conquered its environment

we overcame the pressures and stresses that used shorten the lives of our ancient ancestors

we developed vaccines and medicine that kept people from dying before they're able to have offspring

there's no longer "survival of the fittest"

those who were supposed to die young and not have offspring now live long enough to have offspring

man has conquered the natural selection process

defects that were supposed to be filtered out by the natural selection process no longer gets filtered out

the human gene pool is supposed to contain only high quality genes

coz the strongest are the only ones who get to have offspring

those who had defects do not live long enough to have offspring

they don't get to pass on their defects

but now almost everyone gets a chance to live long enough to have offspring

the human gene pool is now polluted with defective genes

the species is degenerating

man is degenerating coz there are too many defects in the gene pool

now there are many people with genetic defects, which cause physical and mental illnesses

duchenne muscular dystrophy , hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, polycystic kidney disease, down syndrome, psychotic disorders etc

as the species keeps degenerating, human civilization will collapse and man will be brought back to balance with its environment

neither too strong nor too weak

the human species will keep degenerating until it reaches equilibrium with its environment

[_Cathy_]

Uls, ikaw naman sumagot...

hahaha!

I'm just a mere spectator. Geek talk is ***y.

[marg]

i really like your post.... and it very education and true....why? because God created all of us and not came from the evolution of the monkey....most of the scientist does not believe God which is very wrong...they have for something but to God they did not believe....people now a days are very fun in reading books, pocket book, novel etc...but if you will asked them if they are reading their BIBLE? most of them will answer "NO" because they dont have any Bible at home....we always asked wisdom to God but how can He give us what we asked for if even the Bible were not reading it? you will find wisdom, blessing and strength IF you START READING YOUR BIBLE....

The Bible says its a SIN to eat Shrimps and to wear Lacoste shirts. And you will not be able to go to the mall on Saturdays.

So have you tried doing these things, humble?

[niky]

Yup. There is no goal to evolution.

It's a mindless process that's simply the mathematical outcome of survival. Organisms mutate constantly, and mutations that increase survivability are propagated faster than mutations that don't.

In fact, even mutations that don't increase survivability get passed on if the organisms who carry the mutation survive. Case in point: scurvy. Humans and other primates can't manufacture their own Vitamin C, unlike most mammals... yet humanity itself is one of the most successful species on Earth.

[safeorigin]

you're not getting my point

when we look at evolution, we see a goal or purpose

like when a bacteria strain develops resistance to antibiotics, we think that it's the bacteria's goal -- to develop resistance

but it's not. there's no goal. the mutation that made it resistant was an accident. it wasnt planned or intended. if there was no mutation, the bacteria is wiped out the antibiotics. it's not as if there's a conscious force within the bacteria that created the mutation specifically to resist the antibiotics. it's chance

i'll continue

it's not "conscious" or "sentient" BUT there are chemical receptors which triggers gene recombination in order for bacterial microevolution to happen. this also explains why most of the bacterial microevolution is observable in the membrane complex. during this process, some will get it right, some won't but none the less, there's a good reason why they have chemical receptors

evolution matches an organism to its environment

when is say an organism becomes "too strong" means that it has conquered its environment

natural selection is no longer keeping the species under control. the gene pool of the species is no longer lean.

an example is man

man used to be controlled by natural selection. life was tough. the weak die, the strong survive and multiply. those will genetic defects dont get to live long enough to have children. the gene pool was lean, high quality

but humans have conquered nature

we developed agriculture, vaccines and medicine, shelter, clothing etc

we're no longer at nature's mercy

we developed agriculture so we no longer have to hunt (humans used to be nomads/hunter-gatherers who experienced bouts of famine). we now eat 3 times a day (high carb diet of modern man causing diabetes. man didnt evolve to eat like that)

we settled and planted food and domesticated animals

we made clothes and live indoors so we're not exposed to the elements

humans conquered its environment

we overcame the pressures and stresses that used shorten the lives of our ancient ancestors

we developed vaccines and medicine that kept people from dying before they're able to have offspring

there's no longer "survival of the fittest"

those who were supposed to die young and not have offspring now live long enough to have offspring

man has conquered the natural selection process

defects that were supposed to be filtered out by the natural selection process no longer gets filtered out

the human gene pool is supposed to contain only high quality genes

coz the strongest are the only ones who get to have offspring

those who had defects do not live long enough to have offspring

they don't get to pass on their defects

but now almost everyone gets a chance to live long enough to have offspring

the human gene pool is now polluted with defective genes

the species is degenerating

man is degenerating coz there are too many defects in the gene pool

now there are many people with genetic defects, which cause physical and mental illnesses

duchenne muscular dystrophy , hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, polycystic kidney disease, down syndrome, psychotic disorders etc

as the species keeps degenerating, human civilization will collapse and man will be brought back to balance with its environment

neither too strong nor too weak

the human species will keep degenerating until it reaches equilibrium with its environment

I'm not disagreeing with your definition of "too strong" at all; it merely triggers the environment to adapt because of the revolution-evolution relationship

apex or not apex, a specie is vulnerable to defects when they are not "interbreeding"

but then, a "subspecies" has to "degenerate" in order for complex societies to work because this is for the benefit of the specie, this also explains why some minorities haven't genetically degenerated at all(be it in the higher tier of society or primitive cultures)... well, maybe except for environmental causes

but of course, we die for the same reason as cells have lysosome

[Monseratto]

hahaha!

I'm just a mere spectator. Geek talk is ***y.

Naku Uls...:naughty2: :naughty2: :naughty2:

[safeorigin]

do note that when I say there's a goal and purpose, I look at it in the receptor-gene viewpoint

[uls]

if it's the "receptors", then the "receptors" had to come from somewhere

somebody had a random mutation that gave him "receptors"

only those who inherited the mutation survived and reproduced

sorry nalang to those who didnt inherit the mutation