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    #5521
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Wala pa ring galaw sa Big3 aka Cartel....[emoji6][emoji41][emoji41]
    I think big3 commence price adjustment every Tuesday.

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    #5522
    ^ wala pa rin palang rollback ang big 3?!![emoji51]

    Anatayin ko na lang [emoji16]

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    #5523
    I've been filling up from non-Big3 eversince, for the last 10+ years na ata with no problem. Small players have cheaper gas, sabi rin ng sup walang halonh ethanol sa kanila dahil imported from Singapore. Yung Big3 obligado talaga maglagay ng ethanol, dahil yari sila kapag hindi.

    Sa small players, mura na at imported pa from Singapore at 100% gasoline dahil walang ethanol.

    Yung tito ko, avid fan ng Petron kahit na mas mahal ng P3. Yung isa kong kabarkada yung monty nya yung mamahaling diesel pa gamit nya. Kapag tinatanong ko sila kung ano difference, mas maganda daw ang takbo...feeling daw nila.

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    #5524
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    I've been filling up from non-Big3 eversince, for the last 10+ years na ata with no problem. Small players have cheaper gas, sabi rin ng sup walang halonh ethanol sa kanila dahil imported from Singapore. Yung Big3 obligado talaga maglagay ng ethanol, dahil yari sila kapag hindi.

    Sa small players, mura na at imported pa from Singapore at 100% gasoline dahil walang ethanol.

    Yung tito ko, avid fan ng Petron kahit na mas mahal ng P3. Yung isa kong kabarkada yung monty nya yung mamahaling diesel pa gamit nya. Kapag tinatanong ko sila kung ano difference, mas maganda daw ang takbo...feeling daw nila.

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    Sa big 3 lang din karaniwan kumukuha ang small players. Petron has almost 50% share of the wholesale market because they have excess capacity at their Bataan refinery which they sell to independent players.

    Also, kalokohan yang walang ethanol. DOE requires ALL fuel with 98 RON and below to have ethanol. Kung walang ethanol yan edi smuggled yan. Saan ba yan nang mai-report ko. [emoji23]

    Wag masyado magpapaniwala sa mga bisor ng stasyon. [emoji23]

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    #5525
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Sa big 3 lang din karaniwan kumukuha ang small players. Petron has almost 50% share of the wholesale market because they have excess capacity at their Bataan refinery which they sell to independent players.
    yup petron has excess capacity kaya nagbenta ng diesel sa trading company



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    #5526
    Edit: wrong thread
    Last edited by jut703; December 29th, 2018 at 03:34 PM.

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    #5527
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Comparison of my shortlist of aircons:



    Taas ng EER ng Daikin FTKV, but using Meralco's app to compute (wattage lang ang input) based on my usage, it'll take 6.5 years para mabawi yung cost vs. the entry-level Panasonic.

    Was already inclined to get the Daikin FTKV until I computed for the very long payback period. Unless mali ang computation ng Meralco app?

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    Wrong thread hehe

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    #5528
    Quote Originally Posted by essjei55 View Post
    Wrong thread hehe
    Oops! Thanks for the heads up.

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    #5529
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Sa big 3 lang din karaniwan kumukuha ang small players. Petron has almost 50% share of the wholesale market because they have excess capacity at their Bataan refinery which they sell to independent players.

    Also, kalokohan yang walang ethanol. DOE requires ALL fuel with 98 RON and below to have ethanol. Kung walang ethanol yan edi smuggled yan. Saan ba yan nang mai-report ko. [emoji23]

    Wag masyado magpapaniwala sa mga bisor ng stasyon. [emoji23]

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    Yes, most probably smuggled nga. Ilang percent ba ng mga oil companies ang hindi nag-smuggle. May isa pang small player na kung saan bumili dati si Shell or Petron, (can't remember which) sa kanila ng 1million worth of fuel. Nakita ko naka display sa lobby nila yung cheque(not the original huh). Their office is at Ortigas(clue).

    I have a couple of friends who work for the small players, one of them tagabigay ng pera sa BOC. Hindi ko na sasabihin yung location dahil madaling ma pinpoint kung anong oil company ito.

    Kaya naniniwala aq na walang ethanol yung sa small players, not all though. That's one option to lower their prices din kasi.


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    #5530
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Yes, most probably smuggled nga. Ilang percent ba ng mga oil companies ang hindi nag-smuggle. May isa pang small player na kung saan bumili dati si Shell or Petron, (can't remember which) sa kanila ng 1million worth of fuel. Nakita ko naka display sa lobby nila yung cheque(not the original huh). Their office is at Ortigas(clue).

    I have a couple of friends who work for the small players, one of them tagabigay ng pera sa BOC. Hindi ko na sasabihin yung location dahil madaling ma pinpoint kung anong oil company ito.

    Kaya naniniwala aq na walang ethanol yung sa small players, not all though. That's one option to lower their prices din kasi.


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    Actually even smuggled may ethanol. Karaniwan naman technical smuggling ang ginagawa so yung mismong product still has to be the right quality - quantity lang ang underdeclared lagi.

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    #5532
    yung effectivity ba ng 2nd tranche ng TRAIN Law tax is Jan 1 talaga or until stocks last ?

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    #5533
    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    yung effectivity ba ng 2nd tranche ng TRAIN Law tax is Jan 1 talaga or until stocks last ?
    dapat until stocks last. pero as an ordinary consumer, hirap naman malaman kung susundin nga nila iyan

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    #5534
    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    yung effectivity ba ng 2nd tranche ng TRAIN Law tax is Jan 1 talaga or until stocks last ?
    If train2 takes effect Jan1 and big3 rollback is effective 6am Jan1, then effectively prices of gasoline and diesel fuel will go up Jan1... Right? If yes,-deym!

    So, pakarga na tayo today!?

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    #5535
    hindi agad sa Jan 1

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    #5536
    My old ugali. Full tank lahat by Dec.31 mahal o mura gas

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    #5537
    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    My old ugali. Full tank lahat by Dec.31 mahal o mura gas
    pamahiin ba bro? hehehe

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    #5538
    Nagpa full tank na ako! Just after the latest price rollback yesterday, at my suki neighborhood Seaoil. P32.20/L for diesel! According to my records, it is already lower than the same time last year in the same station by P0.10/L despite the TRAIN tax.

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    #5539
    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    My old ugali. Full tank lahat by Dec.31 mahal o mura gas
    In my case, rides should be at least half full, bro....

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hindi agad sa Jan 1
    Thanks bro.
    Last edited by CVT; December 30th, 2018 at 01:42 PM.

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    #5540
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    pamahiin ba bro? hehehe
    oo ninj, nakaugalian ko na para daw buong taon lagi me laman

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