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    #5501
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Oil prices are falling coz...

    1. Supply -- Iranian oil was supposed to be taken off market, trump told saudi arabia to produce more oil to make up for it, then at the last minute trump gave waivers so Iran can still sell oil which resulted in too much oil

    2. Supply -- US shale oil producers pumping like crazy ever since oil prices recovered from OPEC+ Dec 2016 production cut extension (Brent almost reached $90 this year)

    3. Demand -- the global economy is showing signs of slowing which will lessen demand

    4. Risk off -- keep in mind oil is a risk asset... The selloff in equities (negative sentiment) is carrying over to other risk assets
    Now do you believe equities driving oil prices now?

    Dow 1000 point rally



    Brent 50 ---> 55 overnight!

    Last edited by uls; December 27th, 2018 at 08:40 AM.

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    #5502
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Now do you believe equities driving oil prices now?

    Dow 1000 point rally



    Brent 50 ---> 55 overnight!

    Technical rebound?

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    #5503
    Yeah I heard maraming nawalan ng trabahong pinoy. Mostly government employees? Swerte yung mga pinoy na nasa higher ranks ng oil and gas industry. I believe they still enjoy bonuses unlike other private companies na marami nang layoffs.


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    #5504
    maybe short covering

    maybe the market thinks equities and crude oil have bottomed and it's time to buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by carwhacko View Post
    Yeah I heard maraming nawalan ng trabahong pinoy. Mostly government employees? Swerte yung mga pinoy na nasa higher ranks ng oil and gas industry. I believe they still enjoy bonuses unlike other private companies na marami nang layoffs.


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    madami ba pinoys working sa gobyerno nga saudi arabia?

    if there are OFWs working in Saudi govt they wouldn't be the first to get laid off pag mababa ang presyo ng langis

    the gov't gets first taste of oil money and the money trickles down to other areas of the economy so the govt is last to go bankrupt

    mostly sa construction sector nauuna nawalan ng funding

    kaya madami construction worker sa Saudi Arabia nawalan ng trabaho


    3 years ago...

    Saudi builder Binladin cuts 77, jobs, to lay off Saudis -report | Reuters
    RIYADH, May 2 (Reuters) - Major Saudi Arabian construction company Saudi Binladin Group has laid off about 77,000 foreign workers and plans to cut thousands of jobs held by Saudi nationals, a local newspaper reported on Monday.
    Last edited by uls; December 27th, 2018 at 12:28 PM.

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    #5506
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    madami ba pinoys working sa gobyerno nga saudi arabia?

    if there are OFWs working in Saudi govt they wouldn't be the first to get laid off pag mababa ang presyo ng langis

    the gov't gets first taste of oil money and the money trickles down to other areas of the economy so the govt is last to go bankrupt

    mostly sa construction sector nauuna nawalan ng funding

    kaya madami construction worker sa Saudi Arabia nawalan ng trabaho


    3 years ago...

    Saudi builder Binladin cuts 77,��� jobs, to lay off Saudis -report | Reuters
    The Middle East's top construction newsmakers of 218 - Business - Construction Week Online

    seems they are not affected by plunging oil prices.... too much money on hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strange View Post
    The Middle East's top construction newsmakers of 218 - Business - Construction Week Online

    seems they are not affected by plunging oil prices.... too much money on hand

    really?

    replying to the article you posted

    item # 1 -- it's a dubai based company building stuff around the world. Those paying them don't depend on oil money. Like Disney

    item # 2 -- this Saudi company naman is being paid to build "palaces for the king, crown prince, and other senior royals"... like i said, the govt gets first taste of oil money. tipirin ang iba, wala lang ang sarili

    item # 3 -- Kuwait is fine... lower fiscal breakeven

    item # 4 -- hahaha ok don't get me started... so this french construction company called Oger International has a Saudi affiliate called Saudi Oger... guess what happened to Saudi Oger



    to be continued
    Last edited by uls; December 27th, 2018 at 01:19 PM.

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    2017

    Once-mighty Saudi construction giant 'finished' - ArabianBusiness.com

    A once-mighty Saudi construction firm linked to Lebanon's prime minister Saad Hariri is finished, having left thousands of workers unpaid, sources said on Friday.

    The Saudi Oger employees, most of them from abroad, suffered for months without salaries and many have already gone home.

    A collapse in oil revenues that began three years ago left the kingdom unable to pay private firms it had contracted. Most were in the construction sector, chiefly at Saudi Oger and another firm, the Saudi Binladin Group.
    Struggling construction firm Saudi Oger shuts down - report - Gulf Business
    Struggling construction firm Saudi Oger – owned by the family of Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al-Hariri – ended operations on Monday after 39 years in the business, local Arabic daily Okaz reported.
    Saudi Oger hit Oger International so hard that it had to be rescued


    and lastly, item # 5 -- it's dubai... they got other sources of revenue
    Last edited by uls; December 27th, 2018 at 01:25 PM.

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    #5509
    saying this again -- the Saudi govt gets first taste of oil money so they can choose where to spend the money

    when less money is coming in the ruling class WON'T change their lifestyle

    BUT they'll choose WHO NOT TO PAY nalang

    and usually it's the contractors that don't get paid

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    #5510
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    saying this again -- the Saudi govt gets first taste of oil money so they can choose where to spend the money
    i wonder how much of it is being spent in the yemen war?

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    #5511
    Yung cousin ko who worked sa hospital (government owned) said that ang huli daw na magllay off is healthcare sector so before pa mangyare she transferred to Doha and got a better offer there. I wonder how the OFWs in Aramco and SABIC are doing...


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    Actually ang pinaguusapan is what happened 3 or so years ago when saudi/OPEC decided to wage a price war with US shale oil producers causing oil prices to fall as low as $30

    Nangyari madami nawalan ng trabaho sa ME

    Since then nagrecover naman

    Kaya napagusapan kasi bumababa uli ang presyo ng langis.....

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    #5514
    Thats a big rollback hindi na pansin yung increase ng diesel due to train 2

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    #5515
    SEAOIL will adjust pump price per liter effective 6am, December 29, 2018

    Gasoline P1.30 Rollback
    Diesel P1.80 Rollback
    Kerosene P1.90 Rollback.

    Happy ang New Year [emoji106]

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    #5516
    Kaka-full tank ko lang kanina.

    Seaoil Commonwealth
    Extreme 97 - 36.90php

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    #5517
    kelangan ko na pala pa full tank soon.

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    #5518
    my low fuel light turned on last night.
    i'll see what the new fuel prices are today, minus 1 peso...

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    #5519
    Cracks were already showing in global growth earlier this year but oil prices kept rising

    A lot of people in media were predicting $100 oil but I was skeptical

    The global economy was already looking fragile going into Q3


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    Quote Originally Posted by montro View Post
    SEAOIL will adjust pump price per liter effective 6am, December 29, 2018

    Gasoline P1.30 Rollback
    Diesel P1.80 Rollback
    Kerosene P1.90 Rollback.

    Happy ang New Year [emoji106]

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